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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:08 AM
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Time: Is Florida the Sunset State?
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Is Florida the Sunset State?
Thursday, Jul. 10, 2008 By MICHAEL GRUNWALD/MIAMI




Water Crisis Mortgage Fraud Political Dysfunction Algae Polluted Beaches Declining Crops Failing Public Schools Foreclosures

Greetings from Florida, where the winters are great!

Otherwise, there's trouble in paradise. We're facing our worst real estate meltdown since the Depression. We've got a water crisis, insurance crisis, environmental crisis and budget crisis to go with our housing crisis. We're first in the nation in mortgage fraud, second in foreclosures, last in high school graduation rates. Our consumer confidence just hit an all-time low, and our icons are in trouble--the citrus industry, battered by freezes and diseases; the Florida panther, displaced by highways and driveways; the space shuttle, approaching its final countdown. New research suggests that the Everglades is collapsing, that our barrier beaches could be under water within decades, that a major hurricane could cost us $150 billion.

We do wish you were here, because attracting outsiders has always been our primary economic engine, and our engine is sputtering. Population growth is at a 30-year low. School enrollment is declining. Retirees are drifting to the Southwest and the Carolinas, while would-be Floridians who bought preconstruction condos in more optimistic times are scrambling--and often suing--to break contracts. This is our dotcom bust, except worse, because our local governments are utterly dependent on construction for tax revenues, so they're slashing school and public-transportation budgets that were already among the nation's stingiest. "This may be our tipping point," says former Senator Bob Graham.

Florida was once a swampy rural backwater, the poorest and emptiest state in the South. But in the 20th century, air-conditioning, bug spray and the miracle of water control helped transform it into a migration destination for the restless masses of Brooklyn and Cleveland, Havana and Port-au-Prince. Florida developed its own ventricle at the heart of the American Dream--not only as an affordable playground and comfortable retirement home with no income tax but also as a state of escape and opportunity, a Magic Kingdom for tourists, a Fountain of Youth for seniors, a Cape Canaveral for Northerners looking to launch their second acts. Even the soggy Everglades, once considered a God-forsaken hellhole, became a national treasure.

But now the financial and environmental bill for a century of runaway growth and exploitation is coming due. The housing bust has exposed a human pyramid scheme--an economy that relied on a thousand newcomers a day, too many of them construction workers, mortgage bankers, real estate agents and others whose livelihoods depended on importing a thousand more newcomers the next day. And the elaborate water-management scheme that made southern Florida habitable has been stretched beyond capacity, yo-yoing between brutal droughts and floods, converting the Everglades into a tinderbox and a sewer, ravaging the beaches, bays, lakes and reefs that made the region so alluring in the first place. "The dream is fading," says University of South Florida historian Gary Mormino. "People think Florida is too crowded, too spoiled, too expensive, too crazy, too many immigrants--name your malady." ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1821648,00.html?xid=feed-netzero-featured




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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:34 AM
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1. Even the winters suck
Florida is a sauna year round, air so thick with moisture you can slice it. It's buggy, overdeveloped, crowded, and chockablock with conservatives.

You can't even get to a beach in most parts. Jebbie's developer friends were allowed to erect a solid wall of high rise condo towers to block it all off from ordinary people.

I'll leave Florida to people who like such places, alligators and Republicans.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:38 AM
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2. The worst winter in Florida is better than the best winter in Cleveland
but then the worst winter in Florida is better than the best summer in Cleveland.

I love traveling to Florida anytime from late September through April.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:53 AM
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3. Yeah, but a snowstorm isn't going to relocate your house to the Atlantic Ocean.....
..... like a hurricane will.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:04 AM
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5. But it seem like winter never ends here
We call it perpetual grey.
70 degrees and 90% humidity from June 1 - Sept 1 Grey and yuck the rest of the time.
At least in Florida there is warmth with that sticky feeling.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:06 AM
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6. But here in Detroit, and I would assume it's the same in Cleveland, the summer ......
.... seems to get longer each year, while the winters shorter and milder. (I suppose that's not a good thing, though.)


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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:59 AM
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4. um, well, i kinda like it here.
florida is basically still a 'frontier town', at least to me. ignored for years while the rest while the northeast developed until cheap air conditioning became the norm. it's a place populated mostly by people from somewhere else. modern day pilgims or settlers. gonna be awhile till it all gets sorted out.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:46 AM
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7. Well-off pensioners are a thing of the past
The era of taking your fairly handsome pension and moving from the Midwest or Northeast to retire in Florida is now past.

Pensions, except for government employees, are a thing of the past for most workers. And the baby boom generation hasn't been saving enough to retire in Florida -- it's move in with the kids for them.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 09:02 AM
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8. I call BS... the writer does not know their history- Florida has a long history of Boom and Bust
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 09:03 AM by JCMach1
since the Gilded Age. I have known people during my life who have lived through all of Florida's downturns... even the great freezes of the 1880's that wiped-out the huge citrus industry for the very first time.

Florida was completely sunk by the depression, real estate crash, and hurricanes in the 20's and 30's.

Growth itself has destroyed a major part of the environment since the 1970's. During my lifetime Florida went from about 7 million to around 20.

What I do know is that the state will come back...
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 09:37 AM
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9. "What I do know is that the state will come back..."
Not without (good) water.

They blew it and I left in 1986 'cause I saw it coming.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:47 AM
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10. one thing Fl. still has is sunshine - yet it ignores solar energy?


if they can't sell to tourists anymore, maybe they can make money on solar.
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