If they had the power and the lack of conscience to lie us into a war...

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...in order for oil companies to get control of Iraq oil, wouldn't they have enough power and lack of conscience to stifle any science or discovery that would be a suitable alternative to oil?

If these people knew there was technology that would allow us to run cars on air or some other cheap substance, wouldn't they first want to bleed us out of every penny we have before revealing this information? Imagine what would happen to Saudi Arabia and all the powerful oil tycoons if we suddenly didn't need their oil? It would be like Buster Keaton and the emergence of talking movies. They would become completely irrelevant.

So what are they going to do? Milk us for every penny we have, so they can use the profit to buy our public infra-structure and maintain control over us. They're already doing it. They've been trying to get a hold of our docks, they already have parts of our railroad system. And watch closely because they're also trying to get a hold of water resources.

So, why doesn't Congress pass legislation to remove protections for corporate trade secrets that hide innovative energy technology? If the science is there to free us of the chaos that's coming, why not use it now before things get ugly? Republicans don't seem to be screaming about big government now that Fannie and Freddie's mortgage payments are in default and the government is going to step in to take them over, so why should they scream when the government gets pro-active about finding a suitable alternative to oil? Let's face it, Free Market is dead. It failed. Hit them now while they don't have a leg to stand on. We have so many examples to throw at them if they protest.

[salin]

1. I don't know why - but I just had a flash on one of bushco's solutions

make a big prize to promote the initiative... like another race to the moon! Oh wait, isn't that what John McCain is proposing?

You are on the money - and for the first time in a long while the ridiculous "free market" solutions are being recognized by the public as - ridiculous.

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3. I'm seeing similar posts popping up all over DU.

The time is ripe to strike.

[salin]

4. Here is a sign... after years of radio ridicule - where part of his schtick

was to claim that dems only win races by cheating... ole Rush has turned into his own caricature by overtly demonstrating that he thinks the only chance the GOP has to win any races is to cheat. And to do so vocally and proudly. Their movement - the conservatives - totally discredited. Smoking heap of trash...

You are right the time to strike is now.

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14. Another up is down moment:

Remember when they said that the government that governs less, governs best? Remember how they thought that it was a good thing when Congress was stalemated and doing nothing? They thought it was a good thing, because if they weren't passing laws, it meant they weren't intruding in their lives. Now we're reading about all the failures of our FDA to protect our food supply, our pets are in danger from tick collar poisonings to pet food; our investments are going sour; we're walking away from our mortgages and there are prayer sessions being held at the pump.

How could they have been so stupid, not to see this coming? And they're paying Rush 400 million to protect THAT way of life? These people are demented.

[salin]

16. fortunately.... many folks have since shaken the cobwebs out

from between the ears... and woken up. Some relatives of mine included. Then you have a generation that has come of age noticing how ridiculous and empty the conservo rhetoric was and that the GOP spin got absurd whenever trying to justify the next outrageous action or policy ala bushco. I honestly think that Rove may have achieved what he set out to acheive - just for the democratic party not for the GOP. The question is will a new and long lasting democratic majority and WH be able and willing to stake out bold policies and agendas that challege the corporate power structure where necessary to reverse the damage of the past 28 years?

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17. You know what world they wanted?

There are business' like Hollister, who gives kids summer jobs, at least, the kid thinks they have a summer job. What they get is one call-in day a week to find out if they can come in to work. And for weeks in a row, they can be told, no, don't come in, there's no work for you today. How can they get away with this? It reminds me of something from the Grapes of Wrath. A kid thinks he has a job, and three weeks into the summer, he figures out the racket and by the time he goes somewhere else, it's too late. All the summer jobs have been landed.

Someone needs to investigate Hollister. If someone tells a kid they have a job, the kid should be guaranteed to be on the schedule at some point, instead of the crap game they're playing. I hope the kids remember the company for this, and go somewhere else to buy their clothes.

[CrispyQ]

2. Some comedian said:

If you gave the oil companies the rights to the sun's energy for the next hundred years, we'd have solar everything by midnight.

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5. Thing is, a scientist is a gift from God.

They can't help themselves. They are so focused on discovering new things that if you give them a lab to play in, you have to come in every few days to remind them to go home and change their underwear.

It really wouldn't be difficult to come up with an alternative if you give the right people the right access to the right tools. And once they come up with it, give them the credit, and allow the public full access to the discovery without some grotesque, fat, greedy man to milk us dry.

[patrice]

6. The oil companies are THE prime example of trans-national corporate DOMINION.

There should be a movie documenting everything they've done to OPPRESS energy entrepeneurship.

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8. You know what saddens me the most?

I think about the Saudi royals, and how they had all this ungodly amount of money. They had it in their power to create the perfect world for their people. Instead, they kept it to themselves and forced their people to rely on the clerics. I really believe that all this terrorism we're experiencing is a backlash from those people who have miserable lives because we're so dependent on the oil, and making the Saudis very rich.

They are unwise stewards.

[patrice]

13. Yes, more evidence of how money doesn't make a person Good. And yet we behave as though it

does all of the time, ergo, our own middle-class prosperity is justification for ________________________ (A - N - Y - T - H - I - N - G).

I was brought up as a Conservative Catholic in the '60s. Religious education was based upon the principle that religion should FREE people, so they can choose, as Jesus did, to accept their own moral responsibilities. Though I do see religious Folk out working for Peace I don't see ANY religious institutions behaving according to that principle.

[lonestarnot]

7. They've already devalued the value of your life, and you ask this?

:rofl:

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9. I'm just seeing the next stage.

Governments exist for a reason. It is to keep social unrest to a minimum. A bad government is its own weapon of self-destruction. I don't believe you even have to pick up a pitchfork to fight. You just have to tune them out, by the millions.

[lonestarnot]

10. Oh sure tune them out. LOL See how far that gets you. While your

tuned out your children and your wallet and their wallets along with their lives dissipate to nothingness.

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11. Well, you'd be surprised how well the cold shoulder works if it

is strategically angled. It would be a quiet revolution. Sometimes, it just happens naturally. If you don't have the money to spend, then you're not going to the malls, the stores don't get revenue and the economy goes bust. Suddenly, they have to listen.

[lonestarnot]

12. LOL That's happening while I'm watching!

:rofl:

[FirstLight]

18. I like your idea, beacue I am not that hip on grabbing a pitchfork

AND I am too poor to figure out HOW to survive, much less fight back. I am afraid that the meltdown period we are entering is not going to be pretty. There will be plenty of folks who won't hesitate to take your life for a box of corn flakes, especially of their family is starving.

Just remember , if the action we are proposing is to just let them implode, let's not forget that alot of damage can be done in that breaking down process. Perhaps we need to lean even further out of the box, and really take action, either figure out how to FIX the constituion we have (because it really IS a great peice of work!)...or get a large enough resistance together to draft a new one, and get the international comunity to grow some cojones and help us turn this crazy train around.

Either one is a long shot, so I guess it's going to happen by implosion, eh?

see you in the bunkers! :hide: :nuke:

[patrice]

15. Yeah, I read about that "Fire Sale", -$1,000,000. off the value of YOUR life. Makes me think of

the movie THX1138 (from those dastardly! '60s!)