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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:29 AM
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Obama could win even if McCain should poll more votes
Up until now I had thought this citizenship argument was a joke. But after reading this I see it differently :

A Hint of New Life to a McCain Birth Issue

By ADAM LIPTAK

In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”

The analysis, by Prof. Gabriel J. Chin, focused on a 1937 law that has been largely overlooked in the debate over Mr. McCain’s eligibility to be president. The law conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, and it made John McCain a citizen just before his first birthday. But the law came too late, Professor Chin argued, to make Mr. McCain a natural-born citizen.

“It’s preposterous that a technicality like this can make a difference in an advanced democracy,” Professor Chin said. “But this is the constitutional text that we have.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1215875765-N8iUVhloxRoi05bFiTIXcQ&oref=slogin


I realize that no court will touch this issue -- before the election.
Nobody of any political stature will demand it. But what if Obama
loses a very close election to McCain ? And what if Obama and the
Democratic Party take the case to court ? And what if they win ? It
would seem to me that with this ambiguity, the Democratic Party could end up winning the White House either way the vote goes. In other words --
if the GOP actually nominates this guy -- for us it would be "heads
I win -- tails you lose".
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:32 AM
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1. I don't see McCain winning the popular vote
Out of NY alone he will probably get a 1.5 million plurality
out of IL he will win probably by 500,000
Out of CA he will take that state by 2 million

He will run better in the South and west than Kerry did.

I think Obama will take more states by landslide proportions than McCain will.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:40 AM
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2. The professor may well be right ...
... but, if it comes down to it, the Supreme Court will make the decision. We saw how Gore made out in the Supreme Court.
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brmdp3123 Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:47 AM
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3. Jeez, not this shit again.
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peterson Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:50 AM
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4. Issue of citizen argument
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 11:53 AM by peterson
Obama and mcCain's have tough competition between them but obama chances to win is more than mcCain's. mcCain's is eligible for persident it was said that he is not american citizen.but now he's declared as a american citizen.

peterson
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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 04:04 PM
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5. I think it will be close.
And if it is real close, McCain could get the most electoral votes. I think should that happen -- Obama should not hesitate to challenge McCain's legal status before the SCOTUS.

That gives us two bites out of the apple. I don't think the Supreme Court would dare to steal two elections for the Republicans. They would have to side with us on this one.
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