Tony Snow's Death: Olbermann Statement

[DeepModem Mom]

TV Newser: Saturday Jul 12, 2008
Tony Snow's Death: Olbermann Statement

Statement from MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann:

Tony Snow was an optimistic, funny, and courageous man who could set aside his politics and inspire others to do the same. It might surprise many at all political points, but while we could not have disagreed more on policy, we were in frequent contact, even during his days as Press Secretary, even as I was criticizing his work and he was — in his own words — yelling at the screen as he watched. It was with great sadness that I heard of his death today, and with sincerity I extend my condolences and my staff's to his family. In the best of us, there is a difference between the message and the messenger, and Tony Snow epitomized that.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/tony_snows_death_olbermann_statement_89092.asp

[Windy]

1. Keith is a class act. nt

[NJmaverick]

2. I didn't see eye to eye with him on anything

but I saw him a couple of times on the Daily show. He seemed to be a good person. I mourn the his passing.

[hfojvt]

9. a good person

Who just happened to "accidentally" (?) tell a bunch of lies in support of the ruling elite.

Not my idea of a good person, even if he may have been a nice guy.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Yeah really

I grieve for 4118 soldiers and a million Iraqis. Without Snow's lies, how many of them might still be alive?

[NJmaverick]

17. Speaking ill of the dead, shows a lack of class

using a false excuse is even worse. Snow's "lies" didn't lead the Country to war. It was already well entrenched when he became the White House press secretary.

Snow served as White House Press Secretary from May 2006 until his resignation effective September 2007.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. He helped promote the lie

McClellan did the right thing. Snow had plenty of time to do the same.

If more of these people had spoken up, we might not still be entrenched in Iraq.

[NJmaverick]

22. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one

and they usually stink

[orleans]

36. i agree. and i kept waiting for him to grow a fucking conscience. he never did. amazing...n/t

[arcadian]

30. I ask for your forgiveness for speaking outside of my class.

Please point me to my proper caste. In your system it's probably "the untouchables".

:eyes:

[tabasco]

45. Yeah, now that Ted Bundy is dead, we shouldn't speak ill of him.

After all, he's dead now.

[AllentownJake]

32. All of them

He was a minor figure in the administration. If it wasn't him as Press Secratary it would have been others. He was not in the league of the decision makers. He was simply the sales person for a year.

[MonkeyFunk]

35. None of them

Snow didn't start the war. Bush did.

[proud2BlibKansan]

39. Yeah I know

It's just a number.

[NJmaverick]

13. There is a whole world beyond politics my friend

expand your horizons and realize there is more to life than being a Democrat or a Republican. Beyond that, no one is perfect. One needs to look at the entire person, and not just one aspect of their lives.

For example, some may look at you speaking ill of the dead, and say you are a bad person. Would that be true?

[hfojvt]

23. depends on your standards

And truth or lies is not about politics. It's one thing to strongly believe in the policies you promote and it's another to be well paid to shill for policies.

And as far as 'bad person' goes. Four or five acts of speaking ill of the well-deserving dead, might be bad acts, but a few bad acts do not make a bad person. Not the same way a whole career of bad acts does.

I have no problem with Republicans, per se. Republicans who consistently and very publicly lie, then that's a problem.

[MessiahRp]

27. Actually no there's not.

Every day life beyond political arguing is really decided by politics.


When you go to school your education and the school you attend will be influenced by how politics has decided the funding and type of curriculum you are allowed to learn.

When you go to work, politics has decided whether your job can send your job overseas without penalty, whether they can get out of paying you overtime pay or benefits.

When you walk down the street, politics has decided what laws you must follow. Ever jaywalked? Politicians decided that this would be a good law (even if it is stupid).

When you get sick politics helped decide whether or not to regulate HMOs or pharmaceuticals and in doing so may have raised the rates of or prevented your care altogether.

When you get old politicians may have decided on whether or not to retain or cut medicare or social security which greatly impacts your future.

If you're struggling and poor politics may have decided whether you have any assistance available at all. Whether it be medical assistance, food stamps and WIC or low income housing and energy assistance. Hell even your child's school lunch is dependent on politics.

What television shows you watch, what newspapers you read, what radio shows you turn on... all the content has been determined by who owns the media and that is determined by politics.

The gas you put in your car, the prices are largely affected by politics. Whether or not those cars get decent mileage is also dependent on political pressure on car companies (because they rarely do this voluntarily on their own).

Everything in life is political. Everything in life is dependent on people standing up and fighting for their political values and beliefs.

And when Tony Snow dies or Tim Russert dies and gets media swoon for it, we must remember that this same media for reasons listed above does not mourn the over 4,000 soldiers who were sent to die in a war that was... political.

Rp

[glowing]

33. Thank you, you are so right.. I try to tell this to everyone.. even my boss

who is operating as a small business... Everything is politics.. everyone has told you its boring.. but the things you tell me are unfair or is "tough" is because of policies set. Politics will make you or break you.. and more often than not they are set for the have's not the have-not's.. and they do not like to share or see you do well.. It is an elite club. They don't want to share with you or me or anyone.

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. OUTSTANDING!!

You need to start a thread with this.

:applause:

Reminds me of my idiot boss who is a republican. She had the nerve to tell me "Not everything is political!"

[baby_mouse]

42. Thank you.

[RayOfHope]

43. Absolutely. WIsh I could rec this reply. n/t

[Usrename]

44. Outstanding post!

:applause:

[YankmeCrankme]

31. Some may? I've seen numerous posts here that do say that.

I guess speaking ill of the living isn't as bad as speaking ill of the dead.

[A HERETIC I AM]

3. Nicely put, KO. RIP Tony. N/T

[varkam]

4. I always got the sense that...

he was a very down to earth sort of guy on the basis of other appearances that he made (you know, when he wasn't spouting the administration line). In a weird sort of way, I'm sad that he's gone.

[mod mom]

5. Doesn't he have young children? So sad.

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. Yes he did; other children are just numbers

[Hekate]

6. KO is showing how it's done. Condolences to the Snow family on the passing of their loved one. nt

[K8-EEE]

7. K&R Classy from Mr. O!

I'm taking a page from his book. No use speaking ill of the dead.

[Patsy Stone]

8. K&R

Thanks for posting this, DMM. :hi:

[Wetzelbill]

10. wow that about made me tear up

I had to fight a few back. Tony Snow was a likable person. I'm sad about his death too.

[JohnnyLib2]

11. Good for KO.

[asdjrocky]

14. That's a class act right there.

[stray cat]

15. Now thats a demonstration of humanity and progressive values

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. A whole lot of people could learn something from K.O.'s statement.

Too bad they won't.

[NJmaverick]

18. I would look at the freeper board with scorn when they would attack

liberals who were dead and dying. It's a shame there are DUers who are morally on par with freepers.

[cherokeeprogressive]

26. I don't look at any freeper boards, but I completely understand what you're saying.

I think it's possible to feel compassion for the family of someone who has died without voicing my dislike of said decedent.

[davidwparker]

19. Isn't that special.

[JackDragna]

21. There is no difference between the message and messenger.

When someone makes it the focus of their lives to spread disinformation, lies and propaganda on the behalf of evil men and does so willingly, then that person, too, is evil. I understand Mr. Olbermann may have known the man, but being personable and likable as a friend does not excuse the type of base, dishonest politics Mr. Snow represented. He was a veritable symbol of the melding of media and government, of the propaganda machine that lies to us and convinces the more gullible among us of the most fantastic lies. Although I agree one should not dance on the man's grave, neither should those of us who know terrible and corrupt Mr. Snow was allow anyone, even Mr. Olbermann, to disguise this truth simply because Mr. Snow has kicked the bucket.

[happydreams]

29. Agreed. People should be judged by what they do, period. nt

[uppityperson]

24. K&R, RIp Mr.Snow, my condolences to your family.

[Clear Blue Sky]

25. Very well said KO...

[lebkuchen]

28. We're all gonna die

the end.

[YOY]

34. RIP Messenger...may your family's grief go by quickly

n/t

[dkf]

37. Tony Snow joined the Administration after the worst had been done.

I don't blame him for the war, nor do I blame him for trying to support this miserable person we have as President.

RIP Tony Snow.

[liberalla]

38. He spoke fondly of Tony Snow and said essentially the same

thing when it was announced Snow's cancer had returned (when he departed the WH). He spoke kindly and respectfully of him then also. Keith is a class act.