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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:58 PM
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AFA President Don Wildmon: Culture War Lost If Prop 8 Doesn't Pass


by: Autumn Sandeen
Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 16:45:00 PM EDT

If we lose California, if they defeat the marriage amendment, I'm afraid that the culture war is over and Christians have lost. I've never said that publicly until now -- but that's just the reality of the fact.
If the homosexuals are able to defeat the marriage amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman, then the culture war is over and we've lost -- and gradually, secularism will replace Christianity as the foundation of our society.

--Don Wildmon, President of the American Family Association, as quoted at OneNewsNow


I'm sure he's using hyperbole to make his point, but still -- I think that his statement says a lot. It would be very wonderful to defeat Prop 8 -- seeing it as a win for the LGBT community and marriage equality.

I hate to say though that if Prop 8 fails to pass, I will probably be just as happy to know that conservative Christians will consider this a Culture War movement defining loss for them.

Go Equality For All! Go California!

http://www.pamshouseblend.com

Is it actually possible that not too long from now these bastards will finally shut the fuck up about my private life?

This is huge if they are beginning to realize that the big, bad scary homos have won. What group of Americans do you think they will next oppress by exploiting the Bible?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:01 PM
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1. Fuck that professional divider.
There is no "culture war," just people who are trying to get their civil rights.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:11 PM
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5. Professional fund-raisers.
Using the lives of my brothers and sisters to stuff their coffers and pay for their extravagant lifestyle.

These people are responsible for the deaths of too many.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:04 PM
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2. I'm financially contributing to Equality California. I'm going to give them more after reading this.
I can't be there to help defeat this odious example of bigotry, but I can sure as hell open my checkbook.

I'll add to my donations if this were to happen...that the bigots would see a defeat of Propostion 8 as a crushing defeat.

I firmly believe we'll win our equality...in time. And I believe we can defeat this amendment in November.

Oh...I'm recommending your post, JackBeck. Thanks. :-)
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:18 PM
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8. What a great idea.
I'm here in San Diego about to board my flight home, trying to breath the air of civil equality before flying over the midwest. Pray that my homo-ness doesn't rain down upon the Christo-fascists on my way home.

I firmly believe that the tide has turned in our favor, and we will see advancements in equal rights, after an 8-years set-back.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:06 PM
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3. If the Culture War is lost, then humanity has won
There is no bigger asshole than a religious asshole with a bigoted political agenda.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:08 PM
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4. He a Christist, not a Christian. Big difference.
None of these guys ever - ever - acknowledge the Christ of the Sermon on the Mount.

They sicken me by claiming to speak for all Christians.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:12 PM
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6. My favorite thing to call them is
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 02:12 PM by JackBeck
Theosexuals.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:19 PM
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9. Excellent! They certainly seem obsessed.
My favorite was the other day when a group of these clowns calling themselves evangelicals endorsed McCain over Obama - they said it wasn't just because of gay marriage and abortion, there were indeed other issues - "like gun control and immigration" !!!!

Heaven forbid they ever acknowledge OTHER other issues like feeding the poor or health care or social justice, etc.

It will never happen, of course.

I will remember the "theosexuals" line, it's a good one.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:15 PM
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7. Christians following the words of Jesus
know that Prop 8 is no threat to their faith.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 02:33 PM
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10. thank you!
that's the best comment I've seen on this board in my many years


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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:03 AM
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11. Prop 8 is a deflection from how sad their own lives are.
It's easier to hate others instead of fixing what's wrong with their immediate relationships.

Thankfully, most people caught on to their folly.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:07 AM
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12. Good! How awesome would it be if it failed.
Maybe all the asshats would just leave the country...for... god I dunno.. not Europe... hell, they'd be very at home in Saudi Arabia if they'd just convert. :P

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