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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:27 PM Original message |
Will the Real Theory of Evolution Please Stand Up? - Scientists Meet To Remix Evolutionary Theory |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Quackery, fakery, chicanery, thinly-veiled religious posturing. |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Not at all... this is the cutting edge of biological science |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Nope, no religion here |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That is not by Mazur. By: Lawrence Vescera, Ph.D. |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That is not from the article... and that is philosophy not religion. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. OK, I won't mince words: this article is poo. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. Not a scientist here |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
80. Wow, Mazur is completely full of shit. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. "Possibly" some politics? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. So the theory is evolving? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The so-called "scientists" are a bunch of Noah's Ark deniers |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. "a bunch of Noah's Ark deniers" |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. ... yip... in a nutshell... |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. dl |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Uh yeahhhh.... |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I agree with you except it doesn't seem like RW spin but someone with an obscured |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Its the opposite of RW spin - That's why its posted here |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Because it vehemently attacks Darwinism which usually implies a religious source. nt |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Which is perhaps one of the reasons that it is so fascinating.... |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It is...but I'm not sure I agree with everything she wrote....nt |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. And that is quite right. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
76. I suppose ... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
74. Because its bullshit! |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. aha! a self-confessed member of the Elite Scientific Establishment!! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. It had me at hello. |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Read on and open your mind. You will not find what you expect to find. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. I'm sorry, but... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. If religious people say it, it's probably wrong. |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I don't see a religious motivation in this article at all. nt |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. Here is an article about Mazur and the Altenberg Conference from a conservative source... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. A note on DU rules: |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
67. AAAS is a conservative source? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. Will the REAL Christianity please stand up? |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. "No one knows how life began" ...lol Evolution describes... well evolution, not origin... |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Do you know how life began? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
99. Thank you |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. If you are interested in the subject and know the names you will find the rest interesting.... |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Evolution is a massive collection of falsifiable data that has withstood 150 years of harsh.... |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. It is nothing of the sort and I can only assume that you have not read it. |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You need to read up on evolution, the Discovery Institute, and the others attacking "big science" .. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Here's why you are entirely wrong |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. People are criticising the article, not the conference |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. It IS bad |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
85. He's criticisizing the change in theory by aligning it with the right wing. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Because, again, it's not the conference, it's the article that is hopeless |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
61. I can assure you its not. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. exactly |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. k*r This is great. I've followed this in previous issues. |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. 1)Social Darwinism is NOT part of the scientific theory of evolution. 2)See my above post for more. |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No one says it is part of it - it is a consequence of it.... |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. People say BS like "everything is relative", does that mean we should throw away physics? |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. You are making jumps which are not in the narrative... |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Umm what? What exactly is your point about Darwinism? Darwinism BTW is not evolution, only... |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:57 AM Response to Reply #38 |
62. That might be true if the something were true. |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. "shaky" ...no. Your point is not invalid, but this is not an all or nothing deal. Epigenetics... |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
94. I have no problem with evolution or random mutation.... |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. I read your article, and.. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. I agree... |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I do agree with some of your intent althecat, but we need to separate Darwinism from modern theory. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. O. M. G. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. No kidding. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. your post is about yet another ideology, not science. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. There is no argument here. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
70. Yes there is a coherent argument there that responds to your post |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. more bullshit |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Have you read Thomas Kuhn? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. so you want to conflate this work with the idiocy in the "online book?" |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. You're right. You're not a scientist. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
71. You're right. You're no scientist either. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Now I'm impressed! |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. "Survival of the Fittest" isn't directed. It isn't ideological |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
41. Will the real fuckhat please stand up? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. I read some of it - total bullshit!! |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Thank you, at least some one gets it! Obfuscation is the culprit here... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Oh, it should be secret |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Can you tell me |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Be glad to tell you |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
81. No, you seem to be having trouble understanding ideas not your own |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. . |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. You know |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #59 |
72. Deleted message |
comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Oh I know |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
89. By 'misunderestimating' you misrepresent - I'm for openness of information |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
45. It would be difficult to find a taller pile of dog shit than that worthless piece. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Here's a sampling of scientists covered in the article. You're wrong |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Because it mentions respected scientists, it doesn't mean the article is respectable |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Here's a far better article about the conference. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. I LOVE Pigliucci...he wrote an great book called "Denying Evolution" |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
73. They did not write the article. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
79. Appeal to authority. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Hey there |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Out of the gate?? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. A Group Effort |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. No you fail to even UNDERSTAND what this conference is about |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. We know Michael Purugganan wears Armani, though. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
68. what a joke |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. This line made me ROFL: |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
77. Mazur is full of shit |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
78. Anyone who believes even a single word of that article is an idiot |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
82. Well, do you want "a more humane explanation for our existence" |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
93. Utter bullshit - i'll stick to the truth instead of fiction, thank you. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
95. Damn, that is the stupidest shit I've read in days. |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
96. What idiotic drivel! |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
103. first of all, that symposium isn't what the woos spin it as |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
104. Here's a link the idiots might find interesting: |
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FarrenH (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-15-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Thanks for that |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-15-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
106. I got here late, but I recognize the pattern |
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FarrenH (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-15-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
107. Autorank, et al |
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