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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:18 AM
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The Westboro Weird Ones are at it again! Take a look at their new target!
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:21 AM
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1. Here is the link to find the site its on.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:37 AM
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2. Hmmmm....
:dilemma:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:50 AM
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3. What's the dilemma? Fred Phelps has NO redeeming qualities at all...
During their teenage years, both Mark and Nate worked as law clerks in their father's office. "When a black client was in there," recalls Nate, "my father would play the 'DN' game with us. It stands for 'dumb nigger'. We would all try to use the acronym as often as possible in the presence of the person involved." In the 1983 interview with the Wichita Eagle-Beacon, Phelps intoned, echoing Abraham Lincoln: "The air of the United States is too pure for racial prejudice to keep going, and the nation can't long endure half-slave and half-free. There is not any doubt that the problems of this country derive, in my humble opinion, from the way this country continues to treat black people." But according to his sons in California, part of the theology of the Old Calvinism Fred taught held that blacks were a subservient race because they were the sons of Ham, the son of Noah. Cursed for ridiculing Noah's nakedness, Ham's children were born black, according to the Bible. Some scholars attribute apartheid in South Africa to the fact that the white minority is predominantly Calvinist and takes the Ham story to heart.

Mark definitely recalls that his father taught the Ham story and took it to its Calvinist conclusions: the black race was cursed and meant to be the "servants of servants" - i.e., subservient to whites. Nate agrees. "He taught that in Sunday sermon many times while we were growing up." Both boys recall their father used to tell black jokes.

"And he'd imitate them after they'd left our office," remembers Mark. However, the piece-de-resistance in the ongoing saga of Phelps hypocrisy is the pastor's relationship with the Reverend Pete Peters of La Porte, Colorado.

Peters is the guru-philosopher of the Christian Identity Movement. Known simply as "Identity", the movement believes the white race is God's true Chosen People. They assert the Jews are animal souls that rewrote the Old Testament to give themselves the Chosen's birthright. Blacks are "mud people" who also possess animal souls-meaning they are not immortal and cannot go to heaven. According to Identity, blacks and Jews want to eliminate the white race and rule the earth.


Read more about Psychotic Fred Phelps and the sickness that is his very existence on this planet.

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:59 AM
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4. Oh, can't say without breaking Skinner's most recent edict
;-)
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:12 AM
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5. Fred Phelps is a shit stain in the underwear of society....
Nothing he could *ever* do would redeem him. So he wants to trash Tony Snow and disrupt his funeral... and that makes him a good guy somehow? What about all of the soldiers' funerals that he's disrupted? Protesting one person that *you* don't like doesn't make him a decent human being in *any* respect.

Would Dick Cheney suddenly earn your respect if he called Bush an ignorant li'l sumbitch who should have been aborted? Fred Phelps could feed a million starving orphans tomorrow and he'd *still* be a piece of shit... a piece of shit who just fed a million orphans, but a piece of shit nonetheless...


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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:55 AM
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7. Don't forget that he started his protests by going after gay people
People tend to forget about that, or perhaps they just didn't care until he started going after military funerals (I'm not accusing you of that, just bringing it up).
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:59 AM
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8. I thought that went without saying...
... my bad... you know, the whole "god hates fags" thing. They're a disgusting bunch of vermin.

:hi:

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:25 AM
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25. You insult underwear skidmarks!
Naughty naughty naughty... :-)


FWIW, I agree with you 100%. The mental image of the liberal protesters and Phelps protestors alternately protesting and praising each other at a common event makes me grin, though.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:54 AM
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6. These nutsacks need to be sedated...
Bwhahahah!!!! 'When Bush signed the bill into law....'?? are you fucking joking?? What a bunch of home schooled knuckle draggers.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:23 AM
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9. Don't you wonder why they feel the need to attack only dead people?
If that law was so bad, our government so corrupt why don't they haul their happy asses to DC and do some protesting in front of the White House, House of Representatives or the Senate for the laws they are unhappy with? They are just bags of hot air looking for attention. They attack people they are sure won't attack back. They go after Chucklenuts & The Cabal or a few Reps or Senators and they might find themselves in Cuba queuing up for the water "feature" room. Phelps is a lunatic and his family is brainwashed and/or lunatics, 'nuff said.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:49 AM
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32. They have.
And looks as if they wish to try and make an international incident with their picketing. Example from their own press releases: http://www.westborobaptistchurch.com/written/fliers/index.html (bottom flier)

"Westboro Baptist Church
(WBC Chronicles - Since 1955)
3701 SW 12th St. Topeka, Kansas 66604 785-273-0325 www.godhatesfags.com
Religious Opinion and Bible Commentary on Current Events
Thursday, January 31, 2008
NEWS RELEASE
God hates China; and is
punishing her with a
deadly winter storm.
With 63 people dead, and an early damage
estimate of 4.5 billion, China is reeling under
the worst winter storm in 50 years. Praise the
Lord. That evil nation, awash with the sins of
Sodom, needs Gospel preaching. God is
warning China: Repent or perish.
WBC to picket China at
the Olympics in Beijing.
Yes. WBC will preach to the whole world while
picketing outside the beautiful new Sasaki
Olympic Green stadium - Aug. 8-24 - and other
Olympic venues where gigantic crowds of
people from all over the world gather;
In religious protest and warning: "And be not
deceived; God is not mocked." Gal. 6:7. To
wit: God Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers. Ergo,
God hates godless, filthy, sodomite China.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with
womankind; it is abomination." Lev. 18:22.
Punishable by the death penalty. Lev. 20:13."
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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:25 AM
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10. When is Phelps going to die?
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:19 AM
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11. Not soon enough...n/t
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:29 AM
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13. No idea but...
When he does, his family will no doubt uncover his huge stash of gay porn. There's no way a man that homophobic isn't secretly gay himself.

TlalocW
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:18 AM
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14. That would be a Kodak moment...
The question is if his church (basically his large family) will dissipate or if his sons will continue his legacy...
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:45 AM
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16. I don't know
Some people are just able to run on hate most of their lives and live to a ripe old age like Phelps, Jesse Helms, etc. when such a lifestyle would send others off to an early grave. We'll see if his offspring, offsprings' offspring, offsprings' offsprings' offspring, etc. are able to do so as well. Also, there may not be anyone else in the Phelps' clan who is able to hold them all together like Fred does. Even when he does kick off, I think it will take a while for their compound to dissolve, and even if his great-grandkids who have had their pictures taken with "God Hates Fags" t-shirts on move away when they get older, there's still going to be a tradition of homosexual-hating going on. I can also easily imagine scenarios where when some of the kids do move out when they get older, and if they in turn have a kid who grows up to reject the hatred, that he'll be ostracized by his or her parents, and that branch of the family will be ostracized for having a "fag-lover."

In the Bible there's a lot of cursing of families to the 7th generation, and I think they'll be living with a curse they created for themselves for at least that long before the hatred is diluted even to the point where hating homosexuals is maybe number 5 or 6 on their list of political concerns behind high gas prices, the economy, etc. instead of big ol' numero uno like it is now.

TlalocW
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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:20 AM
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20. I think his daughter is most likely to take over.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 10:20 AM by briv1016
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:37 AM
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27. When Fox News calls you a Sick, Soulless, Twisted Human Being
You know you suck.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:25 AM
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15. When Fred finally dies, the 'church' will dissolve, and there will be
sob stories from various family members who will say they were forced by Fred to do and say some of the awful things they did -that he held them in psychological captivity, etc. Count on it.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:09 AM
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18. And how soon afterwards will the "Don't speak ill of the dead" posts appear? nt.
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Patriot Abroad Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:24 AM
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21. Otherwise known as "don't sink to his level." nt
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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:39 AM
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22. I'm usually one of those people who are against speaking badly about the dead.
But I'm not going to lie and say that the news of this shitbag's death is not going to bring a smile to my face.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:45 AM
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24. GOD HATES FRED!!11!!!!!1!
But Satan won't want him either. :evilfrown:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:07 AM
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33. I will NOT adhere to that "don't speak ill of the dead" thing....
when it comes to that sick mothefucking monster. I'm going to party when that death happens.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:27 AM
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26. I hope he meets Jesus when he dies
I hope his meeting of his Lord and Savior is minimally delayed.

And if his Lord and Savior chooses end the delay with a flaming bus wreck, well, who am I to question His will?
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:04 PM
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30. Evil never dies, it just rots from within.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:09 PM
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31. Phepls is the living dead man, a fuckin zombie!!!! nt
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:22 AM
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12. Wow! I finally agree with Fred Phelps about something! n/t
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:59 AM
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17. Well, it appears Mr. Phelps is through.
He's going after the Bush Regime now, having become so rabid that he bites the hand that feeds him, and they will crush him miserably. His fall may be rather entertaining.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:15 AM
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19. Hopefully we'll get a pass on
that when Phelps stops breathing. There have to be exceptions to every rule.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:46 AM
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28. In what way did....
... the Bush regime support Phelps?

I believe this is one area where both parties are equally sickened by the man.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:03 PM
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29. I don't mean that the Bush Regime supported Phelps,
But as long as he mainly attacked the forces opposed to it, or the troops who they secretly despise, the regime was content to ignore Phelps, as he appealed to the sadistic side of Bush's followers, and sucked all the air out of the room on topics such as gay rights. Furthermore, Phelps made Bush look good, because, Bush wasn't Phelps. Now Phelps has turned on one of the Bush inner circle, a true believer and good soldier, who valiantly sacrificed his health for the regime CYA. Furthermore, Snow was an old hand at Fox News, who are possibly more militant in their own self defense than the psychos at WBC, hence Mr. Phelps has likely finally bitten off more than he can chew, may he choke on it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:40 AM
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23. if there's a god, he's not at the westboro baptist church....
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