McCain Campaign: Obama, Dems Want To Lose In Iraq Because It Helps Them Politically

[babylonsister]

McCain Campaign: Obama, Dems Want To Lose In Iraq Because It Helps Them Politically
By Eric Kleefeld - July 14, 2008, 11:45AM


The McCain campaign, which has said it doesn't question Obama's patriotism, is now doing something awfully similar: Claiming that Barack Obama and the Democrats are dedicated to losing the war for their own political benefit.

The new accusation was unveiled on a McCain campaign conference call moments ago, with top McCain surrogates making this charge in tandem.

Sen. Lindsey Graham said that a "turning point" was when Harry Reid declared the war "lost" over a year ago, and brought up an old quote from Chuck Schumer predicting that discontent with the war would lead to further Democratic gains. "The Democratic Party built a political strategy around us losing the war in Iraq," Graham said.

McCain adviser Randy Scheunemann joined in: "Senator Obama seems to think losing a war will help him win an election."

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http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/mccain_campaign_obama_dems_wan.php

[DavidDvorkin]

1. Oh, if only we had an independent press!

It would blasting the McCain campaign to smithereens for this.

[TwilightGardener]

2. That's a pretty disgusting charge. They need to hit back--hard.

[kpominville]

3. We Won the Iraq War Years Ago

The fact is that this has not been a "war" since 2003.
It is an occupation.

The reason it isn't going well is because we have continued to treat it like a war.

[spanone]

4. ......just the dumbest bullshit in the world

[Inuca]

5. Very nasty

I am sure there will be an appropriate response.

[mod mom]

6. Yeah-it's Obama's fault they lied us into war then executed a failed policy of execution.

9/11 was the Dems fault, the economy is the Dems fault, gas prices are the Dems fault, do they ever take responsibility for anything?

[mod mom]

7. Listen to the actual words of Linsey Graham at this link:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/mccain_campaign_obama_dems_wan.php

UFB!

[hoosier_lefty]

8. to them I say....

shut the fuck up!

This was never a war.

blow some stuff up, send some troops & secure the tax cuts.

If they wanted to get Americans behind the "war" they should have
waged a war instead of just playing war


* Have clear cut objectives & define conditions of victory

* Issue war bonds to pay for the war, cancel ALL tax cuts, raise taxes
to pay for it.

* There has to be a common vision and shared sacrifice among
the masses.

* wage war, fight war, win war.


The main reason the pretend war didn't work was because most
of the reason for waging war was B.S. One of the other reasons
would be the huge number of chicken hawk armchair generals in this country
who think nationalism is patriotism.

So McCocksucker & company S.T.F.U. !!!!

[PerfectSage]

9. The Dems are just taking advantage of Bush/Cheney's incompetence

President Al Maliki insists on a timetable for US troop withdrawal from Iraq, so if the troops leave Iraq, who are the Al Qaeda remnents in Iraq going to fight?
Since their strategy for victory is bankrupting America by getting America involved in as many quagmires as possible; that is do to America what they did to the USSR in Afghanistan, logically Al Qaeda in Iraq will just go to Afghanistan or the pashtun tribal areas in Pakistan and fight America there.

So why do American troops have to stay in Iraq? For the oil?

[Indenturedebtor]

13. I don't believe there are Al Qaeda in Iraq

99.999999999% of the people we kill over there are civilians who want an imperialistic heavy handed occupier out of their country. Some of them are just mown down for being brown, some actually fight us.

The real story is that the Bush cabal has already won. They've plundered our treasury and are a hairsbredth away from having that Dictatorship that Shrubya want's so badly.

[harun]

10. This is easy to respond to if the MSM was doing its job

in that they should then ask McCain or his campaign if McCain wants to "win" in Iraq what are his requirements of what a "win" is? In other words make McCain define "winning". He can never do this because occupying a country is not "winning" and their goal is simply to occupy this country. The corporate media will never highlight this however.

[SoCalDem]

11. mccain's hoping for a terrrrrrraaaaahh attack to "help" him..

and he thinks that removing troops from war is a bad thing.. a true republican, that Johnny..

[Ashy Larry]

12. McCain and the Republicans are trying to lose Afghanistan

in order to help their friends Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Its not for political reasons though. McCain and Osama go way back. They used to hang out at strip clubs and play craps.

[sinkingfeeling]

14. Excuse me, but what exactly would we 'lose' in Iraq? Our puppet government? Or corporations'

ability to pay pennies on the dollar for Iraq's resources? Our ability to garrison our troops on Iraq's soil? The continual murdering of 1000's? The continual driving of millions of people from their homes? What is it that we would lose since it's definitely not a war but an occupation to begin with?

[Riddler]

15. I view this as an indication of just how desperate this *ass-kissing pos is.

[librechik]

16. yeah, I know! Just like McCain got shot down on purpose, so he could get our sympathy votes

bastard!

[seasat]

17. Trying to draw the media away from Iraq's call for time tables.

They are trying to shift the narrative away from the Iraqi's call for a time table for the withdrawal of US troops. The publication of Maliki's call for withdrawal time table hurts McCain's case because he is campaigning on having foreign policy experience and pushing tough military action. With the Iraqis calling for our withdrawal it exposes him as being out of touch with the actual situation and supports Obama's plan. It also shows that the solution is not more US military involvement but diplomatic support of an Iraqi government that wants control of their country back.