Maine-ah
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:28 PM
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No wood for this heating season. |
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we usually heat with LP, but we also have a wood stove I was planning on firing up this year. I can't get any effin wood. Everyone is out. :mad: I can pre-order for next year. Hopefully we'll make it this year. We barely made it this past winter, which I'm still paying that off. x( On the upside my so-called stimulus check came today. I guess I'll be stimulating the fuel company with it.
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:31 PM
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1. The rumors have been making the rounds about wood pellets too. |
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Shortages of those in the future, until some of those mothballed mills come back on line to make up the sudden increase in demand for all things wood here in the NE.
Tiss a good time to own forested land and have a woodsplitter.
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:32 PM
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2. I guess I should have thought about it sooner |
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My MIL just got her pellet stove and it's awesome.
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:34 PM
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3. Let the deforestation commence. |
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:47 PM
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7. If you grow and cut the right kinds of trees |
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It's fairly sustainable. Not that the carbon emissions are anything to be happy about.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:00 PM
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10. Let the monocropping of the forests commence, then |
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Growing acres upon acres of the "right kinds of trees" usually means rows of pines and poplars with almost no undergrowth to speak of, and thus no wildlife to be seen.
It's carbon-neutral and fairly sustainable, but still not good for wildlife.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:14 PM
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12. True. I'm not a proponent or anything... but we don't have many good options n/t |
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:39 PM
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16. and my other options at this point are what? |
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considering I'm not raking in the dough to go solar or wind....these are the current options I have. When I make my first million, I promise to do better by the planet, until then the holier than thou attitude can go and stuff it.
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Tue Jul-15-08 09:59 AM
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33. It's not about personally going to solar or wind... |
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but to convince corporations to do so. It's like financing oceanic voyages in the 15th and 16th centuries, you needed a backer. The same thing applies today.
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:36 PM
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:38 PM
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15. thanks eshirl, I always forget about them |
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unless I'm looking for a used vehicle....:hi:
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:38 PM
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5. Don't you know anybody whose land you can go cut on? |
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Also, look around for areas of development. I was able to get plenty of wood from developers, and I didn't even have to bring the tree down, just cut it up after it was already on the ground.
You also might check with local saw mills, and see if they will sell you scraps.
You should be able to get wood somewhere, hell, it's only July.
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:45 PM
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6. Where is your nearest National Forest.? They generally allow the public |
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to cut firewood. You need a permit but I think they are free.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:41 PM
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17. Not cut live trees. Pick up deadfall. |
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Mon Jul-14-08 03:03 PM
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20. that is certainly an option on my own land |
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I only have one acre so there isn't a whole lot to pick from. Most of the acre is grass, plus my small house.
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Mon Jul-14-08 04:15 PM
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25. In light of your kind, compassionate, world-considering response above... |
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> I only have one acre so there isn't a whole lot to pick from. > Most of the acre is grass, plus my small house.
In light of your kind, compassionate, world-considering response above...
> considering I'm not raking in the dough to go solar or wind.... > these are the current options I have. When I make my first > million, I promise to do better by the planet, until then > the holier than thou attitude can go and stuff it.
...I guess it's now fair to tell you that you made a stupid decision to turn your land into nothing but lawn instead of keeping some of it as woodland.
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Mon Jul-14-08 05:55 PM
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this house was built the same year I was born. So of course it was all my fault the way the house was built and the way the property was set up, along with the whole friggin' neighborhood too.
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:47 PM
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8. Here in central California, firewood costs are going through the roof. |
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Rempant development has seriously eroded the availability of walnut and almond wood, which has been the backbone of local woodburners for the past century (the orchards became subdivisions). Environmental protections have seriously limited commercial firewood collection in much of the Sierra's, so a lot of our wood is now trucked in from Oregon and Washington. With the cost of gas being what it is, that type of importation is rapidly losing its economic viability too.
I recently got a quote for two cords of orchard walnut, two year seasoned, delivered and stacked. $580 if I have it delivered before Sept 1. Price jumps $100 after that. Four years ago I was paying about $125 a cord.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:11 PM
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I paid $75 for a cord of seasoned wood this last winter...and that was delivered and stacked. I guess I need to go ahead and pre-order some for next year...although I still have half a cord left.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:28 PM
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14. You can still get it cheaper than that here. |
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But you have to be willing to hunt, pick up, split, and stack your own. It just don't have time for that. IIRC, one of my neighbors just picked up a few cords of unsplit green wood for about the same as what you paid, but he has to do all the work himself. Admittedly, I pay a bit of a premium for my wood because I get it dry as a matchstick and they stack, split, and cover it for me. My effort is limited to telling them where to put it, and carrying it from the stack to my wood stove. But still....$580 is nuts. A good chunk of that, I think, is also the labor charges for the guys stacking it.
You should hear them when they see the century old oaks along the backside of my property. All they see is dollar signs, and they bug me every year about cutting one or two of them. My regular wood guy looked at me like I was nuts when I told him that they'd never be cut, even when they died. I'll let them fall to the ground to support the natural development of the tiny slice of riparian ecosystem that remains there. The "forest" between the river and the farmland is barely three trees deep, and I have no intention of letting them thin it. They probably think I'm a silly treehugger for that, and they'd be right!
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Mon Jul-14-08 01:51 PM
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9. Problem is that effin trees are going extinct because of everyone using them for firewood. |
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That is why you can't get any effin wood. Fortunately many places have oak and hickory which burn nearly as well as effin wood.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:42 PM
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Mon Jul-14-08 03:57 PM
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23. Our neighbor had a huge hardwood maple cut down (~3 ft diameter at the base) |
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and we got the wood. We were so sad to see the tree go but it got damaged in an ice storm 2 winters ago and last summer barely had any foliage. Our neighbor thought he would give it one more season to see if recovered but this spring-nothing.
We purchased a soapstone high efficiency wood stove and last winter was the first year we used it. It really kept the house warm. The soapstone radiates the heat for a long time after the fire is out. Our stove is free standing in a 22 X 44 ft living room with the entire back of the house glass. I know wood is not for everyone but we have over 20 mature hardwood trees on our property which are always losing dead branches. We also live across from 40 acres of woods. We used to have to have it hauled away-not any more.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:16 PM
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13. we still have plenty around here... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 02:17 PM by QuestionAll
$100-$125/face cord, delivered. $10 more to stack it.
mostly oak, cherry, maple, and walnut.
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Mon Jul-14-08 02:44 PM
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19. last time I checked it was anywhere from 250-400 |
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for a cord of seasoned. I don't mind stacking. I can't split though.
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Mon Jul-14-08 04:07 PM
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24. is that a full cord or a face cord...? |
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i don't split either- at least i wouldn't split that much wood if i were being paid what it cost me to buy it and have it delivered.
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Mon Jul-14-08 03:29 PM
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21. Cruise the hoods with a pickup after thunderstorms and clean up |
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Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 03:31 PM by yellowcanine
the broken up trees that have been cut up and stacked by the curb. If you are choosy you won't even have to split it - maybe cut it to length (electric chain saw works for this after you get it home). I have basically decided that a wood stove only "pays" for itself if you can get the wood for free or almost free.
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Mon Jul-14-08 03:43 PM
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22. There's plenty here in Michigan. |
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More with the storms a couple weeks back and lots of downed trees, not that it would be fully seasoned by winter, but still. I've seen ads in our local weekly for wood, though we still have enough from last year to get us through with our fireplace.
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Mon Jul-14-08 04:17 PM
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26. Check your local Craigslist under "free stuff". |
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Someone is always giving away wood, due to trees that they've had to remove. You just have to go get it.
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Mon Jul-14-08 04:56 PM
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27. Spend your stimulus check on gas and come on down to Tennessee... |
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... bring a trailer with you.. you can get some wood off of my property... of course, you'll have to cut it if you can't get enough from the already downed trees, but at least you have some wood... I've got 12.5 acres here, over half of which is wooded.
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Mon Jul-14-08 05:14 PM
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28. are there any tree services locally |
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around here they unload the trees they've cut down for free. I realize that its not dry wood, but perhaps you can get in a supply for the future
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Mon Jul-14-08 05:16 PM
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29. When I lived in southern NH on 3+ acres... |
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once I kinda figured things out, I was able to pretty much supply my own fire wood.
Deadfall made up a lot of it. Best because it's all ready for the fireplace/woodstove. When I took an oak down, I was planning that wood for the next year. Took a LOT of work. Chainsaw, wood splitter ( manual, NOT hydraulic), stacking, hauling, etc. Good luck.
BTW, some states (CA is one, I think) have outlawed wood burning fireplaces and stoves because of the pollution.
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Mon Jul-14-08 06:36 PM
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32. When I'm low on firewood, I get off my ass and go out and cut some! |
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Tue Jul-15-08 10:00 AM
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34. If you don't mind my asking, how much do you pay per cord? nt |
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Tue Jul-15-08 10:06 AM
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35. Thanks for the reminder. |
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I just got 3 cords. $225/cord for partially seasoned. Was hoping for cheaper since it's summer, but people here are starting to freak out too!
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Tue Jul-15-08 10:11 AM
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36. We heat with wood and never buy it |
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We are always on the look out for someone who has downed a tree on their property and wants it hauled off, or large limbs that fall in a park. We also get old pallets discarded from companies as kindling, and use waxed cardboard that produce is shipped in (fantastic stuff) to start the fire.
It is time consuming, but so is having to work for an employer to make the money to buy wood for heat. :hi:
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