Why should we chip in to retire HRC's debt?

[elehhhhna]

Can you say "bailout"? HRC is so deeply immersed in DC+Corporate ideology that she may as well just say it:

"HEY! It was a blast spending all that money on ME ME MEEEEEEE but--well-turns out that now someone has to pay for it! Yep! You know all that damage I did to Barack? Get this -- I paid for it with a credit card! I did! And you can't possibly expect the person who gambled with borrowed money to pay it back herself, can you? Come on! You OWE me a bailout. Look, I'm wealthy and infuential, and I gambled bigtime...overdid it, perhaps. Luckily, this is America in the new millenium -- so you must pony up and cover me. It's how the game is played now, baby! I'm in Congress and that's how we roll!"

[crim son]

1. I don't like it either, but it shows solidarity and it shows strength.

And it would totally freak out the repugs. No matter: I haven't a dime to give toward her rescue.

[Pab Sungenis]

2. There were a lot of suppliers and businesses that got stung.

The Clinton campaign ran up a lot of unpaid bills. I'm not thrilled about paying back the "loans" she made to her own campaign, but I'd like to see the innocent businessmen she dealt with paid.

[elehhhhna]

5. that's a rational rationale. thank you. question:

why can't she & Bill pay it?

100 million in income in 10 years...they could swing 2 mil, right?

[Pab Sungenis]

13. I agree.

But she appears ready to let the bills default when the campaign legally ends at the convention. I don't want to see that happen.

[aquart]

3. You don't want to? Don't.

[Indenturedebtor]

4. We should do so in order that we can double the costs of her drawn out campaign

That way we'll be less capable of fighting the pukes in contested states. Sounds like a great idea!

[elehhhhna]

6. exactly!

the money should go to races we can win

[Dogmudgeon]

7. Because we're not vindictive assholes like the Republicans are?

Can you say "hate is a Republican value"? Some of the Democrats are so immersed in the hate-Hillary ideology that they will be hanging on for the next several decades, like the Republicans did with McGovern.

For decades, most of the "losing" Democrats' debts have been paid down by not just their supporters, but by the Party. Political financial bankruptcy is a Bad Thing. The idea is that we are a united political party, not individual rival groups of gossipy, hateful teenagers.

Check out my sig. I fought the "Heathers for Obama" tooth-and-nail ... but the moment Hillary threw in the towel, I became 100% for Obama.

I hear that Hillary is likewise 100% behind Obama. (Besides, she'll be optimally seasoned by 2016.)

There is a very good reason for this. We're Democrats. Our party MUST muddle through these tough times, and we MUST prevail. There can be no other course of action, no matter who is our captain, our pilot, our general.

Yep ... that's how we roll. Leave high school behind. We have an election to win. We have a world to attend to.

--p!

[Indenturedebtor]

9. That's the problem though... we have an election to win

It's hard enough for most of us to scrape a few dollar together to donate to candidates that are actually running for office. Much less to retire the debt of a multimillionaire!

All of my Obama primary money went to fight other Dems money when it was a near mathematical impossibility for HRC to win! Why continue that process?

[UndertheOcean]

8. The Lady and her husband have millions , why should anyone bail her out of her debt

It was her decision

America is weird

[Cleita]

10. Frankly I'm getting tired of millionaires asking me for money.

When I have to sit down and make a decision as to whether to buy a prescription medication or put gas in my car, I can't really feel much sympathy for Hillary's dilemma particularly since she didn't drop out of the campaign when the handwriting was on the wall. I'm done with giving millionaires money. Not a one has done anything to help the deteriorating financial situation most of us find ourselves in. Instead, they are still allowing BushCo to rob us blind with his wars, his prescription drug benefit for seniors and lack of access to health care for many and many, many other problems that haven't been taken care of. Let them ask other millionaires to help them out. I have to take care of myself.

[Ilsa]

11. I hear ya!

I'm worried about my retirement, a son who is disabled, etc. I have no interest in giving money to people who are set for life.

[quickesst]

12. Another "avid" Obama fan.....

trying to convince HRC supporters to abandon the Democratic Party, stay home, or vote McShame. They must be convinced that Obama can win with only half the dem votes. It's probably a good thing that most democrats can recognize hateful, inane, and twisted horse-shit when they read it.

""HEY! It was a blast spending all that money on ME ME MEEEEEEE but--well-turns out that now someone has to pay for it! Yep! You know all that damage I did to Barack? Get this -- I paid for it with a credit card! I did! And you can't possibly expect the person who gambled with borrowed money to pay it back herself, can you? Come on! You OWE me a bailout. Look, I'm wealthy and infuential, and I gambled bigtime...overdid it, perhaps. Luckily, this is America in the new millenium -- so you must pony up and cover me. It's how the game is played now, baby! I'm in Congress and that's how we roll!"

Pure, unadulterated horse-shit. And no matter what the op says, no matter the level of anger, or the argument offered to defend the lowbrow accusations, they know it to be true. Same horse-shit the repugs used on Clark and his McCain statement, same horse-shit they'll use on Obama and the New Yorker cover. Seems horse-shit only tastes good when it's served up by the horse-shitter, but no matter how hard the super-Obama fans try to dissuade me, I'm still voting for him in November. Others however, may be swayed by the efforts. Thanks, but no thanks.
quickesst

[elehhhhna]

14. Another "avid" Obama fan..... lol

Please list my "lowbrow accusations".

Opinions are personal but facts belong to everyone.

[SoCalDem]

15. 18 million peeps x $1.50 - paid off debt and money to spare..

That's what gets me.. all the pundits still toss around that 18 million number and brag on the extreme support...and yet they have not given $1.50 each to do it for her??

[Breeze54]

16. Obama asked rich donors to help...not the little people...are you a millionaire?

Kerry did help Edwards pay off his debt but Edwards was selected VP.

Hillary did pay off Tom Vilseck debt.

This had been happening in campaigns since John Glen ran for Senate.


Obama Asks Donors to Help Pay Clinton Debt

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/24/obama_asks_donors_to_help_pay.html

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Two days ahead of his meeting in Washington with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's top donors,
Sen. Barack Obama has urged his own biggest givers to help retire her $10 million vendor debt.

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Obama's call for money, by the way, was directed at major (rich) donors, and it comes in exchange
for access to Clinton's major donors. In other words, these are polite gestures and part of the
team-building as we move toward the general election. Obama is no idiot.

And it's not her personal debt, it's the money the campaign owes.

Obviously, it is also beneficial to Obama since many of Clinton's donors who have maxed
out for Clinton are likely to donate now to Obama. It's a win-win situation for Obama.

Obama isn't giving her anything, they just trade money. Her donors who are maxed out donate
to Obama and his maxed out donors give it to Hillary. Indirectly her donors are paying it off,
that's how it's done, they filter the money through Obama back to Hillary. None of your money
will go to Hillary.


Why don't you support Obama? :shrug:

[GreenInNC]

17. HELL NO!!!!!!!

She drug out the campaign even after it was obvious she was going to lose so tough nuggie.

[Pastiche423]

18. It is much more important to me

to support Democrat, Jeff Merley in his campaign against the republic Gordo Smith for senator, as well as Rep. Pete DeFazio's re-election.

I, like many others are strapped for cash in this high gas/energy, high food prices and astronomical healthcare cost economy.

My bills are not paid w/credit cards. If I don't have the money to pay for something, I don't buy that something. It's called, living within my means.

It makes zero sense to give what little I have to a multi millionaire.

[mdmc]

19. If it helps Obama, I will support her

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