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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:37 AM
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What Bush and Cheney said during the FAKE California energy crisis!
On May 29, 2001, when the California energy crisis reached its peak, resulting in nearly a week of rolling blackouts, bankruptcies, and several deaths, Gov. Gray Davis met with Bush at the Century Plaza Hotel in West Los Angeles, and pleaded with him to enact much-needed price controls on electricity sold in the state, which had skyrocketed to more than $200 per megawatt-hour.

Davis asked Bush for federal assistance, such as imposing federally mandated price caps, to rein in soaring energy prices. But Bush refused, saying California legislators had designed an electricity market that left too many regulatory restrictions in place and that it was that which had caused electricity prices in the state to skyrocket.

It was up to the governor to fix the problem, Bush said, adding that the crisis had nothing to do with energy companies manipulating the market.

But Bush's response, in hindsight, appeared to be part of a coordinated effort launched by Lay to have Davis shoulder the blame for the crisis, which ultimately led to an unprecedented recall of the governor and Republican-funded attack ads on Davis' handling of the energy crisis.

A couple of weeks before the Davis and Bush meeting, the PBS news program Frontline interviewed Cheney. Cheney was asked by a correspondent from Frontline whether energy companies were acting like a cartel and using manipulative tactics to cause electricity prices to spike in California.

"No," Cheney said. "The problem you had in California was caused by a combination of things - an unwise regulatory scheme, because they didn't really deregulate. Now they're trapped from unwise regulatory schemes, plus not having addressed the supply side of the issue. They've obviously created major problems for themselves and bankrupted PG&E in the process."

In April 2001, a month before the Frontline interview and Bush's meeting with Davis, Cheney, who chaired Bush's energy task force, met with Lay to discuss Bush's National Energy Policy.

Lay recommended some energy policy initiatives that would financially benefit his company, and gave Cheney a memo that included eight recommendations for the energy policy. Of the eight, seven were included in the energy policy's final draft. The energy policy was released in late May 2001, after the meeting between Bush and Davis, and after Cheney's Frontline interview.

What many people have failed to realize is that Davis was right in his assessment that energy companies, including Enron, were manipulating the state's wholesale power market. To this day, neither Cheney nor Bush has acknowledged that they got it wrong and that their inaction helped fuel the California energy crisis.

It appears that neither Lay nor Skilling will be held responsible for the scams Enron's traders pulled on California either. The federal court judge presiding over the criminal case against Lay and Skilling ruled earlier this month that the smoking gun transcripts and audiotapes showing how Enron traders caused shortages and blackouts in California could not be introduced by the prosecution as evidence during the trial because it would prejudice the jury.

One of the more infamous audio tapes captured an Enron trader admitting that his manipulative trading tactics in California helped him rip off "Grandma Millie" to the tune of $1 million a day.

Jason Leopold spent two years covering California's electricity crisis as Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswires.

http://www.vegsource.com/talk/flame/messages/5669.html

GEE! It sounds exactly like what they're saying now. I wonder why?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:43 AM
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1. The Enrons manipulate
and break America, and the Citizens find out what it is like to live in a world without a Constitution. Do we really have to live like this?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:47 AM
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2. The Republicans got what they wanted from the crisis: more $ and a Republican gov. nt
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:11 AM
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27. What crisis. It was retribution for state regulation.
A conspiracy between Enron and the federal gvt. (Bush and Cheney) to squeeze consumers until they deregulated and got rid of a competent democratic governor.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:39 PM
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3. And let's not forget that Arnold was also likely part of this conspiracy too...

In addition to the Enron movie having references to him being involved, here's some more data that Greg Palast looked into too:

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2003/10/05/172924.php
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 02:36 PM
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4. "Oopsy. I got it wrong, heh."
"To this day, neither Cheney nor Bush has acknowledged that they got it wrong and that their inaction helped fuel the California energy crisis."

They got it wrong...yeah, right. :eyes:
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 02:37 PM
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5. They 'got it wrong'? How about 'they lied deliberately'.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:09 PM
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6. I remember when it happened, and it was deliberate switching off of large parts of the grid.
People were told to put it offline and then claim repairs. People went public with this at the time.

We are being ripped off from every direction: They're gaiming us like a casino. And we're falling for it all.

If they can't pick our pockets legally, they'll find illegal ways.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:26 PM
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7. 911 is the only thing these nazis havent lied about.
:think:
911 was an inside job.
Never forget it
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:13 AM
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15. 9/11 was their ticket to ride.

Look. He knows he's in for a helluva ride on our backs to kingdom come.






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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:38 AM
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18. No president would have racted like that when told the nation was under attack
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:42 AM
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19. He already knew, the fix was in. My pet goat my ass.Look at who really benefited
It wasn't the terrorists but Bush/Cheney and the neocon radicals with their corporate oil and arms buddies.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 03:20 AM
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24. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:35 PM
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8. "...many trading strategies employed by Enron and other companies violated the anti-gaming provision
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 10:35 PM by Canuckistanian
Source:
FERC Staff Report on Price Manipulations in Western Markets.
http://www.ferc.gov/industries/electric/indus-act/wec/enron/summary-findings.pdf
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:41 PM
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9. Republicans are such fucking idiots.
I've never seen such stupid people when it comes to economics. OTOH they are brilliant/bumbling criminals, they seem about to get away with mass murder and trillions of lost tax dollars.

They keep saying SS is fucked, because they hate the very thought of FDR. They also say it in hopes to steal it right out from under the working classes nose. And if John McFly gets into office, expect it to get worse.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:25 AM
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40. You need to make one distinction
"I've never seen such stupid people when it comes to economics." Republican VOTERS are indeed fucking idiots when it comes to economics. Republican POLITICIANS are not. They know exactly what they are doing, and who (including themselves) is gonna get richer in the process.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:49 PM
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10. But we DID deregulate energy in California (at least partially) starting in 1996, and
then-governor Pete Wilson (R) was one of the major forces behind the deregulation. There were commercials all over the TV at that time talking about "The Choices" consumers will make in the future, meaning which source of energy did you want your electricity to come from, etc. But nobody really paid attention until 2000 and 2001 when the manufactured "crisis" came into full flower. It was the Republicans who pushed for deregulation, which led to the energy "crisis," then they try to blame the "crisis" on regulations.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 05:21 AM
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25. This method became S.O.P.
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 05:24 AM by Enthusiast
This became standard operating procedure for every scheme they ran afterwards. They are doing it now with oil futures.

I suspect Ken Lay faked his death. Probably living on a paradise island somewhere just waiting for Cheney to meet him after the 2008 inauguration.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:19 AM
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30. I dread you're right. What gets me is the blatant and obvious hypocrisy
They pushed through deregulation, which created the conditions that allowed their manufactured "crisis" to happen, then when it happens, they blame regulations.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:23 AM
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39. They can be blatant, they know the M$M won't say anything...
and most people just trust what the M$M says, still...
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:15 PM
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11. We're living Enron Redux
And jut like then, the number of people claiming a legitimate shortage of supply is ASTOUNDING.

You'd think they'd learn. Bush and Cheney made millions/billions...now it's billions/trillions. Why would anyone believe what they say?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:37 AM
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17. They don't care if we don't believe it.
They do CSPAN Theater out of habit.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 02:30 AM
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22. You got it.
And while I know the terminator's rule has sucked, Davis bears some of the responsibility. He was well informed as to how they were manipulating the supply and was fully apprised of several hard-line strategies, he chose to knuckle under and bankrupt the state.




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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:56 PM
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12. One last rape of the american citizens nt
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:17 AM
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33. I keep saying that..and the next day's headlines keep bringing more..
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:05 AM
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13. Anyone have a link to this article at any other sites?
Google didn't return any hits, from a random sentence.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:07 AM
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14. The recall derailed the $9Billion
Lawsuit against Enron filed by Cruz Bustemante
http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/0321_arnold_energy_crisis.html
Snip
As exposed by British journalist Greg Palast, 34 pages of internal Enron memos show that the man working without favor knowingly joined a hush-hush meeting with convicted felons to derail a plan by Davis and Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante to sue Enron through the California court system. Under the Unfair Business Practices Act, Davis and Bustamante are trying to recover $9 billion from the energy concerns that bilked the state with poor service and huge surcharges.

Does it seem coincidental to you that the clandestine meeting Schwarzenegger participated in took place a month after the lawsuit was filed? It shouldn't.

Snip

Instead we get a car-thief-turned-Republican Darrell Issa working in collusion with others to get Davis recalled so that his efforts to get the federal government to actually enforce its law are stymied.

It looks like it's worked, too. With Arnold in power, he's in position to sanction a sweet deal cooked up by the Bush administration that forgives fully 98 percent of the money stolen from Californians. As an added bonus, Bustamante's lawsuit falls apart. Everybody wins except the millions of Americans saddled with rising energy costs and California, which could actually run its programs with that $9 billion. With an $8 billion deficit this year, we'd even be a little ahead.


Instead we have a mortgage meltdown and businesses closing.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:18 AM
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16. Watch:
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:54 AM
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20. "inaction" = aiding and abetting
Bush/Cheney are criminals, whether actively committing a crime, as in the Iraq invasion, or aiding and abetting through their well planned "inaction"

It's still hard to believe we have brazen criminals in charge of the Executive Branch.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 02:50 AM
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23. "It's still hard to believe we have brazen criminals in charge of the Executive Branch. "
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 02:52 AM by Raster
Your statement typifies mainstream America's failure to fully grasp the depth and depravity of the criminal activity and gives evidence why the brazen criminals are STILL in charge of the Executive Branch. 85% of this country believes we are heading in the wrong direction. Most of those 85% have not been able to wrap their minds around just how truly--for lack of a better word--EVIL, these bastards really are. No one wants to believe it.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 02:00 AM
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21. could this please hit the airwaves during the AAAHNOLD reelection
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 06:10 AM
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26. En-ron scheme and the nordic man rises to talk out the very grey Davis,,,
I knew then we were in for a very bumpy ride.

If GOP companies control energy, water and telephone companies, they could create unimaginable market disruptions to discredit democratic leaders across the country. That was my first take on all that nonsense. And so Arnold gets what he want.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:03 AM
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28. Bush is guilty of conspiracy and fraud on so many levels, who can keep count?
It was all about enriching his oil buddies. He was never a true American that cared about the well-being of other Americans. Why don't we all wake up. He is not an anomaly. Just like Hitler, he is a reflection of the people who put him in power. We will be fighting the same kind of mindsets once he leaves office, and the next president better understand that or he will become an enabler for these crooks.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:18 AM
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29. The laws in California encouraged such a fake crisis though.
The energy companies saw the legal loopholes in the regulations and jumped through them. It's not that California deregulated, they deregulated partially with enough lucrative gaps to ensure the unscrupulous would take advantage.

The problem is one of government thinking businesses will act morally, which they never do.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:50 AM
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31. Why is this article from 2006 being posted now????
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:15 AM
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32. Transcript of Cheney Energy Policy Meeting -
Cheney -I'd like to thank you all for coming. I hope you enjoyed the Kittens Flambe'. Ok down to business. Item 1: Stay out of New York this September 11th.

CoalBoss - Stay out of New York? What for?

Cheney - Don't ask questions, just do what I fucking tell you. Item 2: Stay out of the Pentagon this September 11th. Item 3: Avoid air travel this coming September 11th.

GasBoss - Um..Mr. Chairman, er, I mean Mr. Vice President? I thought this meeting was going to be about increasing oil revenues.

Cheney - Shut the fuck up.

GasBoss - Ok.

Cheney - Where was I? Hey, hand me another kitten and some of that Ranch dressing (nom nom nom). Ok. Item 4: You need to start stockpiling equipment suitable for desert liquid resource extraction. Item 5: Hire as many Arab speakers as you can find.

Ken Lay - Hey Big Dick. Some of my bright boys have come up with a plan to simultaneously make us HUGE profits, fuck over Gray Davis, and bring California to its knees.

Cheney - Sounds good Kenny. Lets Roll with it. Item 6: Boost your investments in the following firms: Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, GE, Ratheon, and anyone of the top 20 defense contractors. Ok, that about wraps it up. Any questions?

OilBoss - Have we heard anything new on the Afghan pipeline? Are those Taliban bastards gonna play ball.

Cheney - Lets just say we have something in the pipeline. Hehehehehehehehe.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:32 AM
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34. What a painful time, to know your Prez and gov did this
I'm from central Ca and they should have been impeached on this. So many business went under. and yes people did die especially children and elderly. There was still year round schools and my mom taught 2nd grade. These little kids had to walk in 110 degree's heat to school, coming from homes that couldn't afford air conditioning and go to a school that didn't ahve air conditioning. thank fully my mom's school was very old and had those big old windows. The would have kids put wet wash cloths on their neck. They will have them wet thier shirts to try to keep them cool.

There was a teacher from Dinuba or Delano, CA who walked to Sacramento to try to bring attention that these children were suffering. Families had to decide whether to cool off the house or to buy food. the monthly bill of a 3 bedroom house, cooling it down to 85% went from 100.00 to 500.00.

How can a poor or fix income live like that?

It was sickening. These Republicans who support this administraion make sick and I hope something bad happens to them, and they suffer from it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:34 AM
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35. It's amazing Bush & Cheney will leave the WH. laughing at everyone...
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:44 AM
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36. Ahem...
... "To this day, neither Cheney nor Bush has acknowledged that they got it wrong... "

No, they got it right! They were willing co-conspirators!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:08 AM
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37. They screwed Aunt Millie, they screwed Pancho's Pizza Place, they screwed Davis,
they screwed their employees, they screwed their investors, they screwed the country, they screwed well intended Republicans who care a little - as this was clearly a Republican led enterprise.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:10 AM
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38. Where are they now? The two cocky employees who talked about
cheating Aunt Millie? Did they get top jobs with the RNC or are they now on Cheney's staff?
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