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Wed Jul-16-08 01:22 PM
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The Daily Show Slams New Yorker Cartoon Outrage |
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:32 PM
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Daily has a profound way of cutting to the chase.
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:34 PM
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2. For those of us who can't watch video, can you tell what Jon said? n/t |
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:44 PM
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4. He makes fun of the media's outrage over the cover and then follows |
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up with clips of the media spreading the outrageous rumors in the first place. It's very funny and then it's quite devastating.
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:46 PM
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6. Thank you. Good for TDS! n/t |
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:27 PM
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Wed Jul-16-08 03:29 PM
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9. Stewart also laid out what the Obama camp's response should have been... |
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"Let me put this statement out for you, it's very easy. Barack Obama is in no way upset about the cartoon that depicts him as a Muslim extremist because you know who gets upset about cartoons...Muslim Extremists...of which Barack Obama is not! It's just a fucking cartoon!"
But when he went in depth into the crux of the matter ("As always, nowhere was the anger at the media hotter than in the media"), first showing clips of all of the usual dunderheads' Monday "outrage" (Chris Matthews, David Gergen, Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, O'Reilly, and Michael Medved - of all people!) and then commenting, "Good for you media! You should be outraged! How dare the New Yorker magazine present horrible misperceptions about Barack Obama without clearly stating whether or not the allegations are true! That is SO your job!", Stewart finally nailed it with scads of vids sourcing every lie the media has inserted into the public consciousness...the original propaganda we've been subjected to all year, concerning the Obamas, and wrapping with, "So now we know where the real two-dimensional figures are! Television!"
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Wed Jul-16-08 03:38 PM
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Wed Jul-16-08 03:53 PM
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12. Obama's campaign needs to hire him! |
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Great response.
As for the DU response I like this quote..."It's just a fucking cartoon!"
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:37 PM
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3. that bastard elitist new yorker. what does he know. |
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:46 PM
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5. Actually, I think Jon Stewart gave The New Yorker a clinic on how to do satire |
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In Jon's segment, he mocks the Media pundits for slamming The New Yorker magazine for doing what they have done in the past-- Jon replays clips from the Media Pundits making the statements The New Yorker cartoon is suppose to mock.
I did not see the satire in The New Yorker cartoon. It was a failed attempt at satire and instead reinforced right wing frames about Obama.
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Wed Jul-16-08 05:24 PM
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14. He knows his craft, that's for sure. nt |
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Thu Jul-17-08 08:12 AM
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23. Jon is good, there's no doubt about that |
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but he does have a great writing staff backing him up.
I was in stitches last night while watching the segment.
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Wed Jul-16-08 05:28 PM
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15. Maybe you could benefit from the same clinic. |
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TNY piled up every right wing POS in their cartoon, big and in your face. If you can mistake that for a straight depiction, I'd email Jon NOW.
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Thu Jul-17-08 09:33 AM
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25. It wasn't satire. It was caricature. Thom Hartmann and Keith Olbermann both slammed it. |
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The Obama's were the main subject of the piece and the cartoon reenforeced every right wing frame about the Obama's. The cartoon was not satirizing right wingers about the Obama's. It was mocking the Obamas using the right wing frames.
A picture says a thousand words but the cartoonist didn't make it clear which words he intended his cartoon to say.
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Thu Jul-17-08 11:28 AM
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27. First, charicature is a form of satire. Second, the piece didn't mock |
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the Obamas. Third, what the artist intended couldn't be clearer. He couldn't have fit one more right wing faux fear in the composition. I love Thom and Keith but they're wrong.
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Thu Jul-17-08 03:13 PM
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28. The New Yorker cartoonist is wrong |
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He did not put those right wing frames in context therefore they are interpreted based on the viewers' POV and that is the problem.
The fact that this cartoon had to be explained by the editor of The New Yorker proves that it failed to get the intended message out to the public.
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Thu Jul-17-08 04:20 PM
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29. Nope. The venue, the form and the context were the context. |
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That a few people don't get it is a measure of how illiterate this culture has become.
TNY cover is a traditional venue for satire.
Cartoons are a traditional venue for satire.
The content of the image is obviously satire because no one have ever seen Michelle toating or Obama in sandals. lol
The editor didn't have to explain anything. He responded to hand wringers.
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Thu Jul-17-08 05:05 PM
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30. It was a failed attempt at satire and they got rightly spanked for it |
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by the Obama campaign and other open minded progressives.
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Sat Jul-19-08 10:38 AM
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31. And most people don't read The New Yorker |
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They would see the front cover and think its a right wing rag.
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:09 AM
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32. Not a failed attempt at satire. |
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Rather a failed attempt to understand satire, including by way too many people here.
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:47 PM
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7. At long last...sanity, and satire directed out the "outraged". |
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Wed Jul-16-08 01:50 PM
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Wed Jul-16-08 03:58 PM
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13. here's hoping Jon covers the Bush press conference tonight |
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Wed Jul-16-08 07:31 PM
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16. Stewart's really strrreeetching here, ain't he? |
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LOL :)
He's had some classics and I think he's great. But the fact that he's having to try so terribly hard to portray people who were offended by the Obama cover as "JUST NOT GETTING IT!!!!" is pitiful. His own montage at the end of his segment showing the idiots in the media raising question after question about Obama's patriotism, not to mention possible socialism and racism belies the entire point of his segment.
The "thanks woman at newsstand" comment from the second vid is priceless. That woman is more than likely a voter, despite Stewart's snarky attempt to minimize her. And the fact that she sees the cover as a negative for Obama proves the point that every single person who found it offensive has been saying all along. And she probably lives in New York too -- the NYorker's infamous fan base!
This is all too funny. But on the flip side, the calories that people are burning trying to support that idiotic cover has got to be good for the waistline....
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Wed Jul-16-08 07:35 PM
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17. I think Stewart's off his game lately. nt |
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:24 PM
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When we have a Democratic president in January, he's going to say and do things that piss off partisan Dems often. He will call out our guys when our guys are in power and do stupid shit, too.
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Thu Jul-17-08 08:14 AM
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Stupid shit needs to be brought out into the light where it can decompose.
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Wed Jul-16-08 07:47 PM
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He is awesome. He makes politics watchable...i can hardly watch the corporate news networks...
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Thu Jul-17-08 07:14 AM
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22. Thanks for the comedy break. (no text) |
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Thu Jul-17-08 11:17 AM
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26. once again Jon Stewart nails it |
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It's a cartoon. The fact that the MSM paid so much attention to it shows that they are not to be taken seriously as a news source.
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