"If you didn't water board Khalid Sheikh Mohammed after 9/11 I wouldn't be alive"

[Solly Mack]

U.S. Congressman Mike Pence said this during the House Judiciary Cmte
hearing on interrogations, featuring John Ashcroft.

How many of you are alive today because the US government tortures people? I'm sure Pence would love to trade stories with you.

Pence didn't get into the details of why (or how) he's alive because of torture.

[niyad]

1. didn't anybody ask him what the hell he meant, and what kind of proof he had of his assertion?

oh wait, we are talking the spineless msm and the even more spineless congress.

[Solly Mack]

2. No...he got a freebie

[LSK]

3. did Jack Bauer saved him from the poison gas plot against him or something??

Do these idiots really believe the shit they spout?

[Solly Mack]

4. LMAO! I'm sure that will be his next story

[izquierdista]

5. And would that be bad?

Uphold human dignity and get rid of a hideous toad in the process? Sounds like a win-win!

[Solly Mack]

7. hehe

[Virginia Dare]

26. I know, my first reaction was..

well, that sucks.

[pinto]

6. Boy, seems an emotional ploy, facts be damned. See also here for Conservative speak:.

Persuasion is the goal of Conservative rhetoric - not communication. Conservative arguments are carefully designed to reduce opposition to Conservative power and build support for Conservative policies. Conservative rhetoric is based on marketing principles, not on veracity.

http://www.midasjones.com/html/what_is_conservatism_.htm

A tip 'o the hat to zonmoy for bringing this to the DU boards:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=110&topic_id=11888&mesg_id=11888

[Solly Mack]

8. That's a very good link..both of them! Thanks!!

[EOTE]

9. If it wasn't for that ferret, I wouldn't be alive today.

Don't ask me how I know this, I just do.

[Solly Mack]

10. Exactly

[NNN0LHI]

11. Bush had his 2 little kids in custody some where

He would have said anything he was told to say without torturing him.

Don

[Solly Mack]

12. Yep. His kids were held...

[TomInTib]

13. Maybe we are supposed to simply accept it on blind faith.

After all, that's what the Conservatives do, don't they?

[Solly Mack]

14. Obviously

Ashcroft even said we need "to market" our "enhanced interrogation program" better so people won't think we torture

[Disturbed]

15. The "enhanced interrogation program" has saved thousands of lives

according to the Busholini Regime.

Proof? There is none & never will be any.

[Solly Mack]

16. Perhaps Bush means Pence's life. LMAO

Maybe they sent around a petition and had the Bush enablers sign it. "Sign below if you feel torture has saved your life"

[Marr]

17. Such cowardice.

These people appeal to fear so easily, it's like they don't hear the cowardice inherent in their own statements.

[Solly Mack]

18. They think they sound reasonable and strong

[librechik]

19. self delete

Praise Cheney!

[irislake]

20. Bullshit!

Grow up America!

[Solly Mack]

21. Well, yeah...it was bullshit

[treestar]

22. These morans are so dumb they don't even make their own arguments

right. He should claim that the victims of 911 would still be alive if Clnton had someone waterboarded before 911. (The needed waterboarding not possible to be done between Jan. 20, 2001 and Sept. 10, 2001, of course). :wtf:

[Solly Mack]

24. You seriously expect reason from these people?

:)

[treestar]

27. LOL, no. I expect double standards.

:rofl:

[Solly Mack]

28. You're never disappointed then

[Overseas]

23. Quite disgusting.perpetuating the myth that any useful info comes from torture.

Even JSM III said he gave false info in response to torture.

[Solly Mack]

25. And quite a few of them, to include Ashcroft, spent time trying to claim

they got good info and as such, justifies it all.

[JHB]

29. That was during the infamous al-Bundii attack on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway

...They were going to flatten the track.

[Solly Mack]

30. LMAO

hehehehehehe

[enki23]

31. if it wasn't for my horse, i wouldn't have spent that year in college

.

[Solly Mack]

32. yep

[damntexdem]

33. A true American patriot would have said:

"facing death is one of the prices I am willing to pay for our freedom and our ideals."

But, then, this is a GOP politician, so I don't expect a true American patriot.

And all of this is aside from the fact that his statement is ridiculous.

[Solly Mack]

34. Didja see the hearing with Feith?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3620404#3621557

Pence was a hoot then too

[HummanaHummana]

35. If there is anybody on earth that deserves torture,

it's Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.