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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:08 AM
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Blogger who was fired for blogging about prosecutor (persecutor) of Siegelman has been threatened
The abrupt dismissal of a veteran University of Alabama employee who blogged about the firing of seven US Attorneys has added a bizarre new twist to allegations that the state's US Attorneys targeted political opponents for prosecution.

Roger Shuler -- a high-profile blogger and leading critic of Alabama's judicial system -- has written extensively about alleged corruption among U.S. Attorneys for over a year. In particular, Shuler focused on two US Attorneys from his home state: Alice H. Martin of the Northern District and Leura G. Canary of the Middle District.

An editor in the University of Alabama Birmingham publications office for the last 12 years and a university employee for 19, Shuler was placed on administrative leave May 7 and formally fired May 19.

Shuler's initial goal as a blogger -- at his personal blog, Legal Schnauzer -- was to expose the corruption of a local lawyer and his allies in the local judiciary, he says. His posts decried the tactics of Alice Martin, US Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama. Martin attempted unsuccessfully to prosecute Don Siegelman for allegations of attempted bid-rigging in 2004, only to have the case dismissed with prejudice.

The former University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) employee started to become suspicious that he was being targeted for his opinions in late 2007, when his supervisor, Pam Powell, began what he calls a "harassment campaign" against him shortly after having given him a positive performance review. He says he found Powell's sudden change in attitude bizarre, because they had had a good working relationship for the past 12 years.

On Apr. 15, Shuler received a strange comment on his personal blog from an anonymous user, threatening to report him to his superiors for blogging on university time.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Alabama_bloggers_firing_raises_troubling_questions_0709.html

Raw Story was able to find two threats, I found another.

Here are the threats that I was able to find:

Anonymous said...
not as much to worry about as the schnauzer when he and his wifey are living under a bridge a cardboard box
April 24, 2008 9:08 PM

Anonymous said...
Matt Hart doesn't give a **** about your little case Schnauzer.As for Brett Blackledge,If you dont like his reporting quit reading the Birmingham News you stupid ****.Yours is coming sooner rather than later.
April 24, 2008 9:48 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/04/deconstructing-brett-blackledge.html

Anonymous said...
Schnauzer does your employer UAB know you blog at work.Maybe they need to find out.
April 15, 2008 6:18 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/04/democratic-underground-connects-dots.html

Google has refused to help pinpoint who could be behind these threats. So, it is up to us. Finding any information about who could be behind this could be one of the most important things DU has ever done. Siegelman and the others who have been per/prosecuted have been under fire ever since they became under prosecution. The office of Siegelman's attorney was broken into, houses and other offices have been broken into, even set on fire, and someone tried to run one of the whistleblowers of this case off a road. We're seeing a pattern here, and this person making anonymous threats is just another piece of the puzzle.

Any information will help! DU investigators, are we up to the task?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:43 AM
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1. Found another one
Anonymous said...
Nut case yours is comong
February 18, 2008 3:06 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/02/alice-martins-political-pipeline-part.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:49 AM
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2. Fucking A bastards!
I wish I knew how, but someone here does! I'm looking forward to that! Please share when it's done.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:29 AM
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3. Update! A series of more comments and threats, anonymous names Roger "Pup"
These comments give us many clues, and a possible ID.

Anonymous said...

Pup, you might be in there with ole Nicholas if you don't get to paying your bills. How are those folks at AMEX treating you these days? Go get 'em big guy.
September 20, 2007 4:12 PM

Anonymous said...

Roger do you realize bankruptcy laws are alot tougher than they use to be.Telephone ringing it's AMEX.
September 20, 2007 9:26 PM

Here, anonymous has a conversation with himself:

Anonymous said...

Yes, old dog, justice is about counting Rs and Ds. What an idiot you are. Could it be the Ds are the ones caught doing bad things because they are the ones in power?? You're such a simpleton.
September 20, 2007 5:28 PM

Anonymous said...

Roger is a simpleton b/c he doesn't have a clue as to what he's talking about. He just reads stuff and then re-writes it like some profound journalist.
September 20, 2007 7:48 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2007/09/bits-and-pieces-for-40-alex.html

Even here, anonymous is threatening Roger, this time with slander/libel charges:

Anonymous said...

Hey pup. Since you are such the legal scholar. Have you ever considered that you could be sued for libel/slander for many of your comments? That would be a big amex bill.
October 5, 2007 9:05 AM

And again:

Anonymous said...

I feel a slander/libel coming your way pup,
November 8, 2007 4:45 PM

Anonymous said...

Your sources are wrong pup
November 9, 2007 4:13 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2007/11/censors-are-out-at-alcom.html

Anonymous said...

Your the only "Blowhard" Pup.
October 26, 2007 6:30 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2007/10/standing-up-to-blowhard-bob.html

And another conversation between anonymous and himself here:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2007/10/trouble-with-neighbors.html?showComment=1192659420000

As for the possible name:

The Edge said...

Anonymous No. 2 sounds like Dax Swatek to me. I'd know that lowlife tone anywhere.
October 5, 2007 5:55 PM

From:
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2007/10/siegelman-prosecution-unmasked.html
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:08 AM
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9. Dax Swatek
Here's a press release on him:

Dax Swatek joins TEAM McCain in Alabama
Swatek To Serve As Senior Advisor

For Immediate Release Contact: Danny Diaz
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 703-418-2008

ARLINGTON, VA – U.S. Senator John McCain’s exploratory committee today announced that Dax Swatek has joined the Senator’s team and will serve as a senior advisor to the exploratory committee in Alabama.

Dax Swatek is the president of Swatek & Associates, a governmental and political affairs firm that works with public officials and corporate leaders in the development of both public policy and public affairs programs.

Swatek recently served as general consultant and campaign manager to Governor Bob Riley’s re-election campaign. He has also served as a consultant to Rep. Robert Aderholt, Rep. Mike Rogers, and House Minority Leader Mike Hubbard.

Swatek stated that it was his sincere privilege to become a member of Senator McCain’s team. “Senator McCain is a strong leader whose brand of common sense conservatism will resonate with voters. It is my honor to join the Senator’s team in Alabama.”

Senator McCain said Swatek will add important experience to the exploratory committee’s Alabama operation. “Dax Swatek has an extensive knowledge of grassroots politics and understands the importance of bringing people together,” said Senator McCain. “He will serve as an important member of my political team.”


http://www.newsbull.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40525">link

Here's his bio from his website:

Dax Swatek is the President of Dax R. Swatek & Associates, LLC a governmental and political affairs firm, with offices located in Montgomery, Alabama. Mr. Swatek is a general consultant working with both public officials and corporate leaders in the development of public policy and public affairs. He has extensive knowledge and experience in both State Government Affairs and General Strategic Consulting within the political arena. His broad background and working knowledge of the legislative process and electoral politics allows him to represent clients and corporate interests that wish to impact policy development at all levels of Government.

He has first hand knowledge of both the political process and the legislative process on the federal and state levels having interned on Capitol Hill for Congressman Spencer Bachus (AL-6th) and later served as the Alabama Field Director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee during the 1996 election cycle. He has served as a consultant to numerous other successful campaigns, among those: Congressman Robert Aderholt (AL-4th), Senator Jeff Sessions (AL), Congressman Bob Riley (AL-3rd), Attorney General Bill Pryor, Court of Civil Appeals Judge Glenn Murdock; and most recently he served as General Consultant to the successful election of Congressman Mike Rogers (AL-03). Mr. Swatek also has served as an advisor to the Alabama House Republican Caucus and Senate Conservative Caucus.

In addition to his political efforts, Mr. Swatek is involved in government affairs practice representing prominent national corporations and national and state associations…all requiring expertise in the development, management and resolution of public policy issues before the intergovernmental community. Over the last several years his firm has served as a lobbyist or consultant to numerous corporate entities including: Philip Morris, U.S.A., Sigma Tau Pharmaceuticals, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., LearnSomething.com, and The American Trucking Association, The Business Roundtable, WRC Media, Health Watch Technologies, and many others.

Mr. Swatek frequently addresses various corporate and public policy interest groups such as the American Council for Young Political Leaders and The Young Conservative Leadership Forum. He also serves as political analyst and commentator for Alabama Public Television’s “For The Record”, Alabama’s only statewide political television forum. In October, 2003 the Montgomery Advertiser and the Central Alabama Business Journal named Dax Swatek to its annual “Leading 40 Under 40” which recognizes business leaders in Central Alabama.

Dax Swatek completed his undergraduate work at Auburn University with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science and History. He also has a Juris Doctorate from Mississippi College School of Law. He currently resides in Montgomery, Alabama with offices in Alabama and Mississippi.


http://www.daxswatek.com/leadership.cfm">link
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:55 PM
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10. Dax Swatek's front group
Back in 1999, when Ralph Reed was helping run Jack Abramoff's lobbying operation on behalf of Channel One, Dax Swatex had a front group going as part of the effort.
http://www.russbaker.com/The%20New%20Republic%20-%20Changing%20the%20channel/changing%20the%20channel.htm

The New Republic - October 25, 1999

But it was in Alabama that the Channel One counteroffensive mobilized most visibly. Earlier this year, a seemingly spontaneous conservative grassroots movement emerged in support of the network. ... And Alabama talk radio, Christian, and country-and-western stations began carrying ads emphasizing Channel One's conservative credentials. ...

Jeff Ballabon, a Channel One executive vice president, denied funding the Alabama pressure campaign. Rather, the sponsor of the radio ads appears to be Dax Swatek, the only person publicly identified with a previously unknown group called the Coalition to Protect Our Children. As a 28-year-old law student, though, Swatek wouldn't appear to have the resources to mount such an effort, and Metrock's camp says that a well-connected consulting firm, the McWhorter Group, was involved in developing the campaign against Channel One. The firm's head, Pat McWhorter, declined to say whether he had done any work on Channel One's behalf or whether he had any ties to Swatek.

But when my research assistant made a separate call to McWhorter's office and asked for Swatek, a receptionist offered to provide his cell-phone number or even patch the call through to him. Swatek did not return messages left on his voice mail or with a man who said he was Swatek's roommate. The impression that Metrock and other opponents have is that Channel One is directly behind the Alabama effort but works through middlemen.

Pat McWhorter was at that time a business partner of Bill Canary, the long-time GOP operative and Karl Rove crony who was neck-deep in the Don Siegelman prosecution. And there's even a direct Karl Rove connection -- on February 3, 1999, Ralph Reed sent Abramoff an email about Rove and then-Governor George W. Bush, saying, "Did you and Karl chat? I am planning to get Ballabon down to meet with the Governor in the next month or two and I'd like to do the same with you."

Granted, Dax was just a punk kid at the time he put his name on that front group. But it seems likely that he was learning from the best in the business.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #10
29. Swatek...
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:50 AM
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4. I need some backup on this next thing
"Since that time, Shuler has received a steady stream of threatening anonymous comments on his blog. One indicated that the commenter knew the last four digits of Shuler's Social Security Number, hinting that he or she intended to use that information in unlawful ways."

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/07/talkin-bout-my-termination.html

I saw the comment where anonymous said it word-for-word, but I can't find where it is now; can one of you help me find it again?

We're almost there, I think we're getting closer to the truth.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:32 AM
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7. Found it
"I have tried looking for the original complaint but I cannot find it on the Circuit Court of Shelby County web site. If you have the guts, please post the original complaint and judgment on your blog. If you don't post it, I think I can get it provided the last 4 of your SSN is 2587. I am curious as to what caused this perceived witch hunt of liberal bloggers."

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/04/republicans-with-rabies.html
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:01 AM
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5. Heuristics pattern: One threat poster does not space after periods.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 10:02 AM by johnfunk
That's a BIG clue right there - the difference between

"this.And"

"this. For example"
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:06 AM
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6. I noticed that too
Starts in September of 2007, and he/she is making another threat talking about an American Express lawsuit.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:38 AM
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8. Schuler needs to file a wrongful termination lawsuit and commence discovery
The local lawyers should be queuing up for this.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:17 PM
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11. Mr. Shuler has a YouTube Channel
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #11
42. Heading to watch his You Tubes now. Thanks for the link.
:hi:
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murphydad31 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 04:37 PM
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12. Message from Legal Schnauzer
Thanks so much for your interest in my blog and employment situation. Thought you might find this post interesting from today. Gives some of the anonymous comments that I haven't published:

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/07/unmasking-right-wing-sickos.html#links

On a brighter note, here's a post about the real Legal Schnauzer:

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2008/07/original-legal-schnauzer.html#links
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 04:44 PM
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13. You'll find Blogspot's server logs very useful -- discovery's a beautiful thing
It will allow you to see who at UAB has been viewing your Web pages -- and the IP addresses of the harassing comment trolls.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
47. Yes, and rawstory.com logs too.
Each and every access of a web site creates a log entry with the user's IP address, system, browser version, etc., down to the 60th of a second!

I used this info once to try to fire the Indiana state employee who threatened to fuck my mother on a guestbook entry. The idiot did not know I could follow his post back to his computer!!

You can even track who access your comments on online blogs if you post an image in a comment, then have the ability to track the requests for the image. This works great on DU. I recommend a unique image name for each post, even if you just use a 1x1 pixel white dot. Then, the image names track the individual posts.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Thank you. More comments means more information
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 06:56 PM by ck4829
We could just glean a pattern from all of this.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. Welcome to DU, sir!
So, Swatek and son, what's the skinny? Are they the ones harassing you?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. Challenge this psychopath
Dare him to rear his ugly mug! Call him out on his hostile behavior, ask him what he does on Wednesdays, make him want to respond to you.

He will either do so, or he will be silent.

Either way, we'll find out just what kind of person he is.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Schnauz... is that you?
Howdie!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #12
43. Schnauzers are God's gift to us.
We had one for 14 years. Legal Schnauzers are a gift as well.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:36 PM
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14. Evening and after work keyboard warrior.
.Busy on Wednesdays and weekends!
..Doesn't stay up late late.
...Rises 5AM.
....Might have driving job, occasionally able to be home.

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. You want to see something really coincidental?
Dana Jill Simpson's house was burned down on February 21, 2007 - A Wednesday

The office of Susan James, Siegelman's attorney, was broken into on July 1, 2007 - A Saturday

Oliver Diaz's house was broken into on May 16, 2004 - A Sunday

All of these crimes are unsolved and they are all connected to the prosecution of Siegelman and other Democrats in Alabama.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. you might want to link to the article
and the police reports... but these are not the only ones:

John Whitfield (case with Diaz and Minor): office burned down, his attorney's office broken into three times (nothing but documents are taken)
Paul Minor's office also broken into, only the computer with his private records is taken
Siegelman's home is broken into twice, nothing is taken
Jill Simpson is driven off the road by a cop


plumbers appear to be still working for CREP
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. I can't believe I didn't save the original links
When I was looking up the dates, it was just for some research on the side. I knew about some of the things you've listed too, but I couldn't find the dates for those.

I believe I found it all on Raw Story though.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. it is part vi of the series
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #30
44. When I linked there just now....message said Adobe Flash script...
or something like that was running. Nearly froze computer on the blank red page. Then it allowed me to stop the script.

:shrug:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:36 AM
Response to Reply #15
32. Maybe they are technically unsolved but the police might know who done it.
And refuse to do anything about it.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:37 PM
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17. A recreation of days and times comments were made
Sunday - I
Monday - IIII
Tuesday - IIII
Wednesday
Thursday - IIIII IIIII II
Friday - III
Saturday

12 AM
1 AM
2 AM
3 AM
4 AM
5 AM
6 AM
7 AM
8 AM
9 AM - I
10 AM
11 AM
12 PM - I
1 PM
2 PM
3 PM
4 PM - III
5 PM - III
6 PM - II
7 PM - IIII
8 PM - II
9 PM - IIIII II
10 PM - I
11 PM
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. So Thursday evenings it seems to be
As the most visible. What is important about Thursday? I would suggest finding out if Swatek get's off work early, but my guess is that this likely coming from another angle... just a gut feeling right now
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. What's so important about Wednesdays?
Hours could also be an internet cafe.

Our Starbucks close at 9pm around here. Could be Chicago area where time zone change might let one stay till 10pm.

He was over 10pm once. Regular customers are allowed to finish sometimes while chairs are stacked by employees.

Bet they'd know who he is.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:11 PM
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21. I think what he should do is...
Contact Google via his attorney and have them take a look at this information. These are threats and the person clearly has access to account information. Then he should contact the FBI and report cyber-stalking and possibly credit card fraud. Then I would also place an anon call to the IRS about Swatek's questionable business dealings. Just explain you are a neighbor and you have noticed large purchases and new cars and such and it makes you nervous in this post 911 world:)
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:11 PM
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22. What we have so far:
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 09:12 PM by ck4829
We know he doesn't make any comments on Wednesdays and very few on the weekends.

We know he usually types in the evenings.

His unusual spacing of periods in sentences is odd, can it suggest something else?

Judging by the time and days of the comments, I don't think it is someone who works at the University where Mr. Shuler worked at.

I think someone should kick this thread once in a while, I really do think we can get a good idea of who this cowardly person is if we keep at it.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Actually, we need Ben Burch...
Anyone have his contact 411? He will know how to handle this.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. This might be a way to contact him
webmaster@WhiteRoseSociety.org
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Yes that would be where to contact him.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #22
45. AMEX
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 12:58 PM by NBachers
If anonymous knows about AMEX, then he may be a merchant, or an employee of one, where Schnauzer has done business with his credit card. Or, he may have been close to Schnauzer when Schnauzer was doing business with his AMEX card, and seen the card in use.

In many of my online transactions, the transaction approval-and-receit process X's out all my credit card numbers except for the last four. My bank uses the last four digits of my Social Security number as an identifying factor. There may be one or two other agencies that do this.

Pup is a diminutive for Schnauzer. Does that help point to how anonymous perceives himself, or just how anon perceives Schnauzer?

The structure of these posts doesn't indicate much in the way of writing or spelling skills. Significant, or a deception to fool people?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:53 AM
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33. On Swatek's website he is using an AOL account instead of any email
he could create with his website.

I would guess his personal email account is also AOL unless they are one and the same.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:43 AM
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34. K&R
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:57 AM
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35. That police force needs to be investigated very thoroughly by the incoming
administration and any criminals found in their ranks, such as the one who drove that person off the road, given exemplary punishments in the form of hard time. And any other delinquent police known to have served the criminal interests of Republican outlaws.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:58 AM
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36. Guys, this is really strange
I decided to create a timeline for the investigation, let's just say I found something that doesn't add up.

Feb 18 - Shuler posts about corruption of Alice Martin, Bob Riley, Dax Swatek, and Swatek's connections to Jack Abramoff
Feb 18 - Anonymous tells Shuler that "yours is comong (sic)"
Apr 14 - Shuler posts about persecution of Siegelman and Minor
Apr 15 - Shuler asked if his employer knew if he blogged at work by anonymous
Apr 23 - Shuler's post exposes Brett Blackledge and Matt Hart, a reporter and a director in the US Attorney's office respectively
Apr 24 - Anonymous tells Shuler that he will soon be "living under a bridge", that Matt Hart doesn't care about him, that he should stop reading the Birmingham News, and that his is "coming sooner rather than later"
May 7 - Shuler placed on administrative leave
May 8 - Anonymous tells Shuler that he will "deserve everything coming your way plus some"
May 15 - Anonymous threatens Shuler, telling him that if he keeps it up, then he will see where it gets him
May 19 - Shuler fired
Jun 3 - Shuler asked by anonymous if UAB has given him the "boot"
Jul 11 - Shuler says he was terminated from UAB

I'm not the only one who sees this, right? How did anonymous know about Shuler's suspension and termination when he revealed it on the 11th of July?!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:25 AM
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37. What you need are the original weblogs.

That way, you can trace comments to a specific IP address. Then, you can reverse geolocate that address to within a meter.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:14 PM
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46. Not always the case
I'm answering this thread because I've been in networking for over 30 years and before that I worked in (mm, I can say without getting myself in deep doodoo) military traffic analysis.

You can trace the provider to within a meter. What you cannot guarantee is the poster's actual location. Those who are on cable are actually rather difficult (you can get get down to a few city blocks) and especially folks like me who are on satellite Internet are near impossible to geolocate. If you attempted a geolocation on my particular IP address, it will show up as being an entire state away from my actual location. I know. I did it for curiousity's sake.

Note, I live very far out in the country. There is neither DSL nor cable. The "Rural electrification" initiative analog for Internet was successfully killed by big telecom. The only option is satellite and there are only two rural broadband providers -- we are a captive audience.

Other interesting cases are "wardriving" (stealing bandwidth by parking outside someone's house and using their unprotected wireless modem), IP spoofing, and other interesting tactics. Geolocation is useless then, because the perp isn't ever where he "appeared" to be.

It sounds like this Dax clown isn't that sophisticated, though, and likely he has left skidmarks all over. Rightwingers are usually clumsy, leave greasy french-fry fingerprints all over, and they don't clean up after themselves. (They expect someone else to clean up after them -- it's a paired genetic defect with right-wingerism.) It's only a matter of time (likely hours) before any dedicated DU'er will have that slob nailed dead to rights.

The only remaining problem will be finding a court in Alabama uncorrupted enough to hear the mountains of evidence and opine correctly. That, sadly, will be the far greater challenge, there seeming to be a complete collapse of the political and the court system as is the case in Texas and Florida. Sad to hear.

In summary, geolocation isn't as an exact a science as one would hope.

OTOH, every piece of information, however small, is always valuable. Throw nothing away. It all means something to analysis.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:38 PM
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48. Looks like this:
Here is one log entry of a request for a style sheet for a home page (as an example with altered file names).

62.59.159.174 - - <01/Feb/2002:00:04:46 -0800> "GET /style.css HTTP/1.1" 200 644 "http://www.abc.com/index.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; PKBL008; Wanadoo NL; KITV4 Wanadoo)"

Computer 62.59.159.174 could be an ISP, a university, AOL, or the White House. You can look up IPs.
The computer on the 62.59.159.174 network is using Mozilla on a Windows 98 system, etc., .....

The 62.59.159.174 server will have another log that identifies which computer specifically on that network made this request. Sometimes, you will need a court order to access such info, sometimes the IT crew will cooperate.

62.59.159.174 is a RIPE address in Netherlands, according to this Whois query: http://tools.whois.net/whoisbyip/

To query the RIPE database: http://www.db.ripe.net/whois
62.59.156.0 - 62.59.159.255 is the ZONNET-DIALUP-POOL-1

The query result gives the e-mail address to inquire about abuse, etc.

Hope this example is useful! Remember, I know who you are if you read this ;-)
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:45 AM
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38. Have you done an IP trace yet?
...at the command line you can do a tracert, I am sure Ben Burch can 'splain it better. If you are in a browser, go to the 'View' menu and do a "page source" of that post. You will notice that the comments each have a unique number, which I believe is assigned to that particular poster. Here is the Anonymous comment's unique number: id='c8447878420581803434'>. I am not sure that this is linked with the IP address from whence it was posted, but it could be. One thing I do know: *nobody* is truly "anonymous" on the Net ...

For instance ...I DO hope that if you posted ever from work, you can prove it was on your break, tho this can also be tricky as the employee "owns" your computer and can argue that you cannot even use it then ~ tho if there is no memo or anything saying that, then they may have to scramble, AND in a public university you maybe could also argue that the connection is "tax paid" and "public" therefore public domain, because schools and universities have the one of the inner "MAE" which means they have access to the fastest and better connections. Imagine a target shaped picture of circles, the most inner circle is the military/TSA, etc and then the nest circle is for government with schools included, the outer circles are commercial, isps, etc, see?

Hope this helps because I have been following this also on Kos and want you to know I have "been there done that" as far as being "punished" for activism on the job ~ at a university. I commented there with the same username as I use here. It ain't fun, it can be very technical to defend yourself, and you may find you never want to see your boss again, still it is important to at least try to make them accountable if you can ...

My 2 cents ...

Cat In Seattle
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:46 AM
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39. I saw the number you're talking about
This is definitely worth a closer look.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:16 AM
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40. Yeah I do not know html and am not a programmer but
... as a former IT person, I know enough to be dangerous, lol. You need someone who knows programming languages to know the specifics and if Ben knows that, or knows someone who does know that, it might be a way of finding out specifically from whence that comment was posted. Another thought I had was to run a "search" with that number through the search function of the blog site. I doubt it would find it ~ but sometimes you can find that stuff easier than you think, you never know how obvious those things can be ...

Cat
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:46 PM
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49. I would recommend
doing a search for news and blog articles on other websites, particularly sites that Shuler links to, about the Siegelman case and especially about the unlawful things that were done to Shuler. Anonymous is not the brightest bulb in the fixture, since he just cannot help but crow and taunt and threaten (and leave a trail). He might have commented on other sites as well. There wouldn't be proof that it was the same person, but the style and tone of the comments, as well as the timestamps, could be strong evidence.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:23 PM
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50. "Google has refused to help" Yeah, because Roger is neither China nor Viacom. n/t
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