Think Tank Calls For Bush to Be Dictator For Life

[tannybogus]

Family Security Matters a neo-conservative based
think tank has published an article
advocating that George W. Bush should be a
dictator for life. The organization has since taken the article down,
but is still viewable via this cached link.

An investigation by Free Market News Network, found that Family Security Matters
is actually a front group for the Center for Security Policy a group that
Vice President Dick Cheney is a known associate of.

http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=3537

I'm gonna be heading for the swamp to hide out soon.

I'll make forays from there. :wow:

[NV Whino]

1. Fine with me

I think North Korea might like him.

[tannybogus]

3. LOL

The best job somebody proposed fo him

was ambassador to Iraq.

[NanceGreggs]

22. Welcome to DU, tannybogus ...

... here's my proposal to appoint Bush as ambassador to Iraq - he's the natural choice!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3070928

[beac]

32. I don't know... It seems like a bad deal for the Iraqis....

We pull out the troops and insert a huge BOOB?

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. I was gonna say, give him his own teeny island or something. LOL

[Cassandra]

25. Is Devil's Island still available?

[rebel with a cause]

29. Alcatraz is still there,

but they would have to stop the tours. Or they could lock him in a cell and let the people still tour and mock him and Cheney as they set there in their little striped suits. Come to think of it, they could probably fill the whole place with the bush administration. Feed them bread and water so they can feel what it has been like for the poor while they were in control of the country.

[hootinholler]

39. What a great freakin idea!

The place needs funds to stabilize it. A tour fee would cover that in a heartbeat! This of the boost to the Bay Area in tourism!

I can see it now.

Guard: "Yes, sir. That was part of their sentences, they have to sit and listen... HEY! Put that poo down! No throwing things! I have a taser Dick..."

-Hoot

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

51. It's a real pity they destroyed Spandau Prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandau_Prison

It would be nice to know he'd be there all alone until he died of old age, just like Rudolph Hess (imprisoned there after the Nuremberg Trials, spending over 20 years in the otherwise empty prison all by himself).

[rebel with a cause]

55. Orange alert! Orange alert! Number two here.

Patrick is that you?

I have been watching "The Prisoner" lately and so I recognized your name. Not an expert on it, watched it years ago, but have forgotten a lot of it. Only finished the sixth episode.

As for the Spandau Prison. I think bush and cheney should be locked up somewhat close to each other so they could scream insults at each other for being found out. Have people play mind games on them, no torture, just plain old mind games (like at the village..ha,ha).

[peacetalksforall]

26. No, not Iraq, no tiny island - a tiny prison where he can charm the other

prisoners and where he can joke/snort and they can laugh.
For about a day.
And then it's a long life sentence with fellow prisoners who are also in for life.

Edited to add - I guess snort can have a couple of meanings. I meant the kind where he makes a joke followed immediately by breathing in/snorting in while simultaneously shaking his shoulders up and down and voicing heh heh heh. Then, he leaves them and walks his cowboy walk across the 'plaza' to go pick ip his mail from Condi and Karen and maybe his wife and mother.

[sakabatou]

2. For the love of Jenova...

[Leftist Agitator]

42. THAT'S IT!!!

If I ever worship a God, I choose Jenova.

Now WHICH Jenova? That's a rougher choice, to be sure.

:)

[sakabatou]

48. This one?

[Leftist Agitator]

64. Yes. That one.

As long as that one is "JENOVA-Birth".

[sakabatou]

73. That's the one which Sephiroth ripped from the tank

and cut the head off from.

This is Jenova birth:

[MadMaddie]

4. If Cheney is involved in this...isn't this the very definition of

Treason?

[Wednesdays]

49. He's free to express a wish to be dictator...

But if there are actual plans drawn up in order to make him such, then yeah...that crosses the line.

[MadMaddie]

76. This bunch of criminals created and documented

their plan for Iraq years ago....if I were a betting woman I would think they already have a plan drafted to detail the dictatorship.

[mdmc]

5. I'm down

sounds good to me

[nam78_two]

6. Amazing that so many self-identified libertarians side with the right in this country.nt

[alfredo]

61. I'm very much a leftist with strong Libertarian/anarchist ideals.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

7. Welcome to DU tannybogus!

:hi: :toast:

Thanks for this link.

K&R :kick:

[tannybogus]

15. Thanks!

I've been reading posts for a while, but my cookies were

effed up so I just now joined. I'm down in SC, and I feel

like a Phillipine's coastwatcher. I know too many people that fly the

Confederate flag and want to secede again (related to them too).

:banghead:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

8. The article suggests that Bush could emulate Julius Caesar

which is one of the most hilarious notions I've read in recent times. Bush couldn't organize a Girl Scout cookie drive without completely screwing it up. I guess these psychos are serious, but the article reads like comedy.

"...If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American enemies. ..."

[undeterred]

18. He could dress up like JC, but that would be his limit-

[Octafish]

27. He'd be a Caligula Jr, if he wasn't afraid of horses.

That's why Tarpley and Chaitkin wrote a warning to us about Poppy in '92.

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

[Cobalt-60]

65. The horses know he's a dirtbag

And they don't recognize executive privilege.

[Kaleko]

9. They're getting more upfront about this shit, that's all.

No change in plans. PNACers holding the whole world hostage with less and less secrecy.

[warren pease]

53. Time to go update the list of all the systems they've got in place...

... to keep the domestic population from objecting to the complete takeover of their former democratic republic by the very worst pack of rabid hyenas ever to steal an American election. It's fairly clear that these people aren't simply hardline right wingers. They're fucking maniacs, and they're completely out of control. They're obvious sociopaths whose actions and motives are incomprehensible to "normal" people simply because you have to be as crazy as they are to appreciate their world view.

Then consider that these madmen have put into place these legal or physical pieces of a totalitarian infrastructure. Why do you suppose these fascist sociopaths would bother building this entire framework if they didn't intend to use it?

Here are some of the worst pieces of the puzzle that they've either brazened out or sneaked through when they thought nobody was watching.

We now have the Orwellian "thought crime bill" (HR 1955/S 1959) still awaiting passage in the Senate and Bushie's big red X; executive orders allowing to steal everything you have if you express disagreement with their Middle East "policy," which they say would "undermine efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people." (So that's what it's called: economic reconstruction, political reform and humanitarian assistance. You just can't make this stuff up.)

Presidential directives like NSPD 51/HSPD-20 that blather on about "continuity of government" and how government agencies and private sector organizations will work together (only those named Blackwater need apply) "to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency."

Such an emergency might well be a presidential hangnail, since the catastrophes that trigger these directives include "… any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions." Vague enough for you?

Then come the federal invasions of privacy regarding medical and http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/washington/23intel.html?ex=1308715200&en=168d69d26685c26c&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss">financial records; monitoring US citizens' electronic communications; re-targeting spy satellites for domestic surveillance; the TSA cavity search specialists (for attractive young women only; the rest are presumed to pose no threat to the state); InfraGard, the new national system of vigilantes with the FBI's permission to "shoot to kill;" no-fly and terrorist watch lists; Halliburton/KBR's detention camps; RFIDs in all new passports and new national ID cards that may still be issued this year; new TSA "behavior detection officers" to spot those who don't "look quite right;" all this wonderful new stuff coming this year and next from the DHS; private armies featuring mercenaries from companies like Blackwater and DynCorp springing up like mushrooms after a light rain... All that and the Patriot Act, the http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/commissions.html">Military Commissions Act, http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraordinaryrendition/22203res20051206.html">extraordinary rendition (whatever the hell that means) and torture, too. (Note: the torture link is graphic and disgusting, as it should be.)

No need to revisit FISA; we all know how our brave opposition party stood up for us against further interception of our private communications and slapped the Bushies down hard, repeatedly blistering the airwaves with devastating attacks on this pack of vile fascists and… What? Oh… They didn't? Hmmmmm. Must be time for a strongly worded letter then.

Also, see the blockquote in this post, which is a small part of H.R. 1585, the fiscal year 2008 National Defense Authorization Act. Note the orders to prepare to use regular troops -- as opposed to the Guard or Reserves -- to respond to "natural disasters and terrorist events." In other words, martial law.

You look at the destructive power the executive branch has acquired for itself since 2001 and it's hard not to come to the conclusion that all these pieces are there to lock this country down like a bank vault. They just haven't flipped the switch yet.

And maybe they never will. Maybe the implied threat is enough, although the Cheneys of the world don't strike me as the type to do stuff like this just for fun.

Rather, fun to them is shooting animals and, occasionally, each other. We need a lot more of the latter and far less of the former.


wp

[Kaleko]

58. That post is another one for the vaults.

I've archived a few of yours. It really is awe-full to see it all spelled out so clearly. But, hey, it's the truth. Can't change what you don't acknowledge.

[spanone]

10. in america people are free to think up all kinds of stupid fucked-up things...like this

[BrklynLiberal]

11. A Neo-Conservative Think Tank? What an oxymoron.

[indepat]

12. Every junta act heretofore done would seem but prologue to the execution of such

a long-held plan: we'll see right before our eyes, but even implementation of such a plan would likely not snap most Americans out of their apathy, slumber, and moribundity. :scared: :grr: :D

[Somawas]

13. www.writeinbush.com

[bdamomma]

72. oh that sticker is disgusting

:puke:

[Owl]

14. Piss on their teeny-weeny think-tank.

[Ian David]

16. Published 08-16-2007 n/t

[Ian David]

17. More

(2) For Real? Top Think Tank Calls for President-for-Life-Bush ...
Thursday, August 16, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

News Analysis

Editor's Note: Article excerpted below was posted at beginning of August @ FamilySecurityMatters. But Internet conversation recently heated up with several threads running this week and one today at FreeRepublic.com. Several reports link FamilySecurityMatters directly to Bush Admin. Article was removed from site but remains in cache. Among the board of advisors for Family Security Advisors are Barbara Comstock, Monica Crowley, and Laura Ingraham. (Might do well to repudiate as well as remove - or explain hoax or joke?) Recent threads at Democratic Underground and FreeRepublic.com.

Excerpt:

"President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming 'ex-president' Bush or he can become 'President-for-Life' Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons. ... He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court." -FamilySecurityMatters

See full article here:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cnnnSRimWmcJ:www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php%3Fid%3D1208571+%22president+for+life+bush%22+site:familysecuritymatters.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

=====

More on think tank - thread from Democratic Underground

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:3_LNfPkLZmsJ:www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_mesg%26forum%3D389%26topic_id%3D1574242%26mesg_id%3D1574242+family+security+matters+president+for+life&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

You can't find the story now, they removed it after DU'ers, and other people possibly, exposed the story a little group called Family Security Matters was running.

More:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=47419


Monday, August 20, 2007

Conservative Group Calls for Bush Dictatorship
By Rogers Cadenhead
Watching the Watchers
http://watchingthewatchers.org/news/1290/conservative-group-calls-bush




I'm not finding this on any of the more credible blogs yet.

Still looking.



The Freepers commented on this:

Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy
One way to conquer the drawbacks of a democracy is to set up a constitutional republic instead. 4 posted on 08/20/2007 10:42:47 AM PDT by AmericanHunter ...
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1883867/posts


Here's a DU thread:

Democratic Underground - Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy ...
Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy ?!? helderheid, Aug-14-07 04:05 PM, #62. And I'm sure no one would mind us killing 95+% of the Iraqi population ...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=15&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fdiscuss%2Fduboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_mesg%26forum%3D389%26topic_id%3D1574242%26mesg_id%3D1585699&ei=ddaDSMGJI4io8AST4-joCw&usg=AFQjCNE7aVSAIqh1462TQ0qt31U7-K6_2w&sig2=OZ2B1iQJd5qJ2KLIjh5F_w



Searching Snopes.com

Sorry, no matches were found containing "Family Security Matters".
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=%22Family+Security+Matters%22&getit=Go&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

Sorry, no matches were found containing "FamilySecurityMatters".
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Sorry, no matches were found containing "Philip Atkinson".
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[tannybogus]

19. Congress addresses the eminent marshal law plan - in private

http://politikly.com/ 2008/ 07/ 11/ congress-addresses-the-eminent-marshal-law-plan-...

Secret meeting in Congress to discuss the eminent marshal law. This happened March 13th of 2008. WHY? Congress is expecting the eminent collapse of the U.S. economy sometime in late 2008 and the possibility of Civil War? in the United States due to the economic collapse. Possibly the most disturbing, The advance round up of insurgent U.S. citiz This week, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki urged a timetable for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq

I saw this online briefly, and I want to blow it off. Before GWB, I would completely.
:hide:

[RoyGBiv]

62. I'll consider taking that seriously ...

... but not until they spell "martial" correctly.

[krispos42]

35. I made a PDF of the Google cashe

I caught it after FSM (no, the other one) pulled it. I can email if you want.

[Ian David]

20. The Google cache is gone. Here's what's on Archive.org

Aug 13, 2007
http://web.archive.org/web/20070813201613/http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/


Jul 07, 2007
http://web.archive.org/web/20070617022632/http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/

[ingac70]

23. Here is the whole article.....

http://freedemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/08/family-security-matters-vaporized-their.html


Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy

By Philip Atkinson

President George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn in for a second term on January 20, 2005 after being chosen by the majority of citizens in America to be president.

Yet in 2007 he is generally despised, with many citizens of Western civilization expressing contempt for his person and his policies, sentiments which now abound on the Internet. This rage at President Bush is an inevitable result of the system of government demanded by the people, which is Democracy.

The inadequacy of Democracy, rule by the majority, is undeniable – for it demands adopting ideas because they are popular, rather than because they are wise. This means that any man chosen to act as an agent of the people is placed in an invidious position: if he commits folly because it is popular, then he will be held responsible for the inevitable result. If he refuses to commit folly, then he will be detested by most citizens because he is frustrating their demands.

When faced with the possible threat that the Iraqis might be amassing terrible weapons that could be used to slay millions of citizens of Western Civilization, President Bush took the only action prudence demanded and the electorate allowed: he conquered Iraq with an army.

This dangerous and expensive act did destroy the Iraqi regime, but left an American army without any clear purpose in a hostile country and subject to attack. If the Army merely returns to its home, then the threat it ended would simply return.

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead. Then there would be little risk or expense and no American army would be left exposed. But if he did this, his cowardly electorate would have instantly ended his term of office, if not his freedom or his life.

The simple truth that modern weapons now mean a nation must practice genocide or commit suicide. Israel provides the perfect example. If the Israelis do not raze Iran, the Iranians will fulfill their boast and wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Yet Israel is not popular, and so is denied permission to defend itself. In the same vein, President Bush cannot do what is necessary for the survival of Americans. He cannot use the nation's powerful weapons. All he can do is try and discover a result that will be popular with Americans.

As there appears to be no sensible result of the invasion of Iraq that will be popular with his countrymen other than retreat, President Bush is reviled; he has become another victim of Democracy.

By elevating popular fancy over truth, Democracy is clearly an enemy of not just truth, but duty and justice, which makes it the worst form of government. President Bush must overcome not just the situation in Iraq, but democratic government.

However, President Bush has a valuable historical example that he could choose to follow.

When the ancient Roman general Julius Caesar was struggling to conquer ancient Gaul, he not only had to defeat the Gauls, but he also had to defeat his political enemies in Rome who would destroy him the moment his tenure as consul (president) ended.

Caesar pacified Gaul by mass slaughter; he then used his successful army to crush all political opposition at home and establish himself as permanent ruler of ancient Rome. This brilliant action not only ended the personal threat to Caesar, but ended the civil chaos that was threatening anarchy in ancient Rome – thus marking the start of the ancient Roman Empire that gave peace and prosperity to the known world.

If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American enemies.

He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court.

President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

34. They're calling on Bush to engage in mass ethnic cleansing as Dictator

"...Caesar pacified Gaul by mass slaughter; he then used his successful army to crush all political opposition at home and establish himself as permanent ruler of ancient Rome. ..."

"...If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results ..."

Cheney probably reads stuff like this when he masturbates.

[TankLV]

43. Then let me be the first to say so: I he does that, then it is the duty of all TRUE patriots to

stop him and restore democracy...by ANY and ALL means possible...

if he/they do this, it would be treason.

This could never stand.

I would not be alone.

So be it...

And people still continue to wonder at why the Russians and French acted the way they did after their revolutions...I stopped long ago and support what happened in those countries whole heartedly...

[barbtries]

44. goodgawd that's horrifying

i looked at some of the cached pages of the organization. they appear to be rabidly anti-islam thoroughly intent on the USA's hegemony over the entire world by military force. i wonder if this view is shared by the politicians in DC, or how many of them.

i think we should try peace. war ain't working, and it's so destructive and deadly. why is this a radical and unrealistic position?

[paparush]

45. Read Atkinson's "A Study of Our Decline" (he's English btw..)

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/study.htm

He's a serious nutcase.

Oh, and how's that Roman Empire working out for you?

What is it with Neocons and Empire? I mean PNAC was pushing Pax Americana. A century of American Dominance.

Jesus fucking christ..these people are barbarians.

[treestar]

47. It looks like his goal is genocide against the Arabs

What a nutcase. Even * wouldn't be for that.

[MilesColtrane]

52. That's genuine eye bulging, spittle flying, Hitlerian insanity on display there.

Evil, crazy fucks like you Mr. Atkinson, will never carry the day.

In fact, your types usually end up with a self administered bullet in the brain, or with their head on a pike.

[zeemike]

57. OMG this nut is for real n/t

[Clark2008]

70. So, if Bush is Caesar, then would the Senate assassinate him?

(Note to Agent Mike: Caesar was assassinated by political enemies in the Roman Senate - this is not an advocacy post).

[anonymous171]

24. That is what neocons actually believe, in essence.

[sandyd921]

28. Showing their true stripes

Yet in 2007 he is generally despised, with many citizens of Western civilization expressing contempt for his person and his policies, sentiments which now abound on the Internet. This rage at President Bush is an inevitable result of the system of government demanded by the people, which is Democracy.

The inadequacy of Democracy, rule by the majority, is undeniable – for it demands adopting ideas because they are popular, rather than because they are wise. This means that any man chosen to act as an agent of the people is placed in an invidious position: if he commits folly because it is popular, then he will be held responsible for the inevitable result. If he refuses to commit folly, then he will be detested by most citizens because he is frustrating their demands.

Well, at least here the curtains are drawn. Here's who these people really, truly are. Not just fascists, but true tyrants!

[beac]

30. That's not a think tank; that's a think thimble.

:crazy:

[rebel with a cause]

31. What is scary to me is that I predicted that he would do just this.

Only lately have I gotten hope that his reign of terror would end in 2009, but still the fear that it will not lingers. I am hoping to live long enough to see him out of the WH. God help us all if this election does not take place and this evil administration does not lose power.

:grr:

[tannybogus]

33. Generals for Jesus

DoD Inspector General Finds Misconduct by Pentagon Generals Participating in “Christian Embassy” Promo Video:
Military Religious Freedom Foundation’s Exposé Vindicated

Americans have been unaware until now that their tax dollars have been used by the Pentagon for over twenty five years to further religious proselytizing.

“This U.S. Department of Defense Inspector General’s (DoD/IG) report confirms the intentional dismantling of the Constitutionally mandated wall separating church and state by some of the highest ranking officials in the Bush Administration and the U.S. military. Embarrassingly feeble excuses proffered by senior U.S. Army and Air Force generals and other senior officers reveal long and deep collusion with a fundamentalist, religious missionary organization, the ‘Christian Embassy’. That these senior Pentagon officials control the world’s largest nuclear, chemical and biological arsenal should eviscerate the American public's trust and confidence in their military and civilian leadership. The shocking allowance of unrestricted Pentagon access to fundamentalist Christian missionaries through the official ‘badging’ process is an outrageous national security breach of the highest order. Therefore, MRFF now demands immediate Congressional oversight hearings on this breach. Inexplicably, the DoD/IG failed to fault Secretary of the Army (and former Acting Secretary of the Air Force) Preston M.(‘Pete’) Geren, even though his role in the ‘Christian Embassy’ video clearly led the way for other senior officers’ participation. MRFF intends to file expeditiously a comprehensive Federal lawsuit that will rapaciously pursue legal remedies to the multitude of horrific Constitutional violations this DoD/IG report reveals.”

http://militaryreligiousfreedom.org/press-releases/christian_embassy.html


If the military is really into this, then anything can happen. I don't think I've ever had so much fun - NOT. :wtf:

[rebel with a cause]

37. Yes, I believe I heard of this before.

really scary stuff.

:scared: :hide: :scared: :hide: :scared: :hide: :scared: :hide: :scared:

[alfredo]

59. Remember Prescott Bush was part of that group of industrialist that

wanted to overthrow our government and install a fascist state.

Don't forget, bush expressed his desire to be "the dictator."

[rebel with a cause]

63. Never forget!!! n/t

[alfredo]

71. I can't forget. My wife is Jewish, and I'm part Armenian. We know

about fascism and genocide.

[Aristus]

36. Why do they hate America?

n/t

[Beam Me Up]

38. yeah this was like a year ago -- article date 8/16/07 n/t

[sandyd921]

67. Yep, but deserves to be dredged up again and again

in order to make clear what they really believe but seldom reveal in such a brazen way (instead choosing to soft pedal their message to the general public).

[lala_rawraw]

40. sure, i go take a nap

and all shit hits fan... i am gonna blog about this ... good fucking gawd!!!!

[struggle4progress]

41. Last year, so (of course) cache has expired. Anyone who needs to read the article

can a cached copy of the FSM page at http://www.webcitation.org/5R9ikXAUH

A copy of the text is also available at codshit.com:

http://codshit.blogspot.com/2007/08/conquering-drawbacks-of-democracy.html

[Jack Rabbit]

46. That piece by Philip Atkinson was disseminated here when it came out

Needless to say, it was universally disliked here.

You might try reading Mr. Atkinson's bio that he provided to ourcivilization.com. Atkinson doesn't even attempt to hide the fact that he has issues with his father, who was such a strong social democrat following World War II that he took his family to live in a poor neighborhood. That is overdoing it a bit. Nevertheless, for Mr. Atkinson to embrace all things dictatorial and reject any hint of popular government in response is also overdoing it a bit.

It's pretty hard to take this kind of nut seriously. I don't think he and I have anything to talk about.

[warren pease]

75. You really oughta have a look through his writings, Jack...

These products of a disordered mind submitted without comment. Like his take on the significance of 9/11:

"This attack was a Barbarian Raid signalling the start of hostilities that will only cease when the citizens of Western Civilization have all been killed or enslaved.

"In this war Nuclear weapons compel an unwelcome choice upon the citizens of Western Civilization: genocide or suicide.

"For example, following the threat by Iran (who is now (circa 2006) building nuclear weapons) to "wipe Israel off the map", should the Israelis wait and see if their cities disappear in a flash, or should they make the Iranian cities disappear first?"


Not that genocide is necessarily a bad thing:

"If evil is to be correctly diagnosed it must be by applying a disciplined understanding. The Dean of Humanities claim that genocide is evil does not withstand historical consideration. Genocide has been used to establish a rule of law among savages for it was only by mass slaughter that Julius Caesar was able to extend Pax Romana over Gaul. And it was this technique that extended Roman civilization throughout the world. For the Romans the use of genocide was not evil but essential for securing and protecting their property and lives, and therefore a good act."


Hell, any fool can see that. Mass slaughter = good when seeking to expand and secure your world empire. And it seems those eastbound trains stuffed with human cattle were just Hitler's way of keeping faith with his people.

"The Fuehrer's anti-semitism was an integral and crucial part of his appeal to the electorate , and to do anything but carry out his declared policies would have been a breach of a political promise as well as a failure of his democratic duty. Indeed, any attempt by Adolf Hitler to halt the ongoing pogrom could easily have seen his popularity falter and his authority jeopardised."


This stuff really is worth reading, if only because it's rare to find the belly of the beast contained in a single body of work on one guy's website. Really amazing.

wp

[Extend a Hand]

50. more info...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1569694&mesg_id=1569895

[PufPuf23]

54. Center for Security Policy

was the parent organization for Family Security Matters; the Family Security Matters link is dead on my bookmarks. Look at the wiki for members. The individuals that have won the CSP annual Keeper of the Flame Award is truly barf inducing (Lieberman in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Security_Policy

[BreweryYardRat]

56. Congratulations, Mr. Atkinson. You've advocated high treason and genocide.

Unfortunately, I have been unable to find a picture of this insane shithead, so that everyone might see the face of madness.

[MrSlayer]

60. Not a whole lot of thinking going on in that tank.

What a bunch of idiots.

[Vinca]

66. Hope the Canadians are prepared for the border rush. nt

[OneBlueSky]

68. what? . . . was "Asshole for Life" already taken? . . . n/t

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[Vickers]

69. Aw man, you just *know* The Wee Cowboy© is fighting this tooth and nail!

:rofl:

He's ready to get back to the PARTY LIFE!!!!!

[AntiFascist]

74. That group should be identified as a threat to democracy...

and spied upon.