Get fined for showing more than three inches of underwear in IL

[Squatch]

Having solved all other problems, Lynwood takes on the blight that is modern youth fashion.

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New baggy pants law in Chicago suburb: Can't show more than 3 inches of underwear in public

LYNWOOD, Ill. - Be careful if you have saggy pants in the south Chicago suburb of Lynwood. Village leaders have passed an ordinance that would levy $25 fines against anyone showing three inches or more of their underwear in public.

Eugene Williams is the mayor of Lynwood. He says young men walk around town half-dressed, keeping major retailers and economic development away. He calls the new law a hot topic.

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They've taken it to a whole new level in Flint, MI:

[Gold Metal Flake]

1. The graphic is priceless.

[Javaman]

33. And what about commando? nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

39. Combined with plum smugglers?

[Midlodemocrat]

2. After seeing way more butt cracks that I ever wanted to in my life

I don't mind this law at all.


:hide:

[Squatch]

7. Under the new law, this would still be permissible:

:scared:

[Marrah_G]

24. Thanks... you had to post that just before lunch.

[Buns_of_Fire]

53. I am SO glad to hear that.

Not.

[zanne]

8. You don't mind being told how to dress?

If you look at it from the standpoint of the First Amendment, it's expression. The question should be whether or not it's obscene. If no skin is showing, I don't see how that new law is anything other than cosmetic. I'm sure that "Lynwood" doesn't mind girls wearing tube tops or pants cut down to the crotch. IMO, that's a law that just begs for a challenge.

[stray cat]

10. If you think its ok for a man to run around in his underwear in public

then this law would be an infringement.

[Squatch]

11. Define "underwear"

:shrug:

[zanne]

16. Women wear sportsbras in public...

Why is it OK for them to wear "underwear" showing alot of skin when it's not OK for men to show their underwear without showing skin? It makes no sense at all.

[zanne]

3. If you live in a gated community and pay fees to live there...

It's one thing. But a town making its own decency laws is unconstitutional.

[Clark2008]

12. Not according to the Supreme Court

The court gave communities the right to determine their own "decency" standards in 1971 and has continued to confirm that.

[zanne]

20. Can you link to that case? nt

[KG]

28. oops

[hobbit709]

4. keeping major retailers and economic development away

Yeah, the suckass economy has nothing to do with it. Another idiot law by the so-called morality police.

[billyoc]

5. Modern youth fashion indeed.

"prison chic" :rofl:

[gratuitous]

6. Finally something our leaders think they can do something about

Balancing budgets, paving roads, uprading schools and all that other stuff can be back-burnered. We must protect society from the scourge of dimwits who haven't been properly raised to pull up their britches.

[LWolf]

9. This isn't the way to achieve that goal.

While I, too, would love to see the end of young boys and men in over-sized pants sagging off of their ass, I don't think it needs to be legislated. Besides being against micro-legislation of people's lives on principle, I think this would just feed the issue. It would give the rebellion inherent in dressing to shock, or to piss off, teeth.

What are some better ways?

[Toucano]

30. Evolution? The Draft?

It seems like if the waistline of the pants is below the buttocks, the wearer it apt to trip and fall thereby eliminating his or her genes (no pun intended) from the pool.

Or if we bring back the draft, we can put them all in uniforms.

That's a joke of course, but I agree that it isn't an issue that can be legislated. Enforcement is a nightmare.

[LWolf]

34. They shuffle.

As a middle school teacher, I see plenty examples. They have a unique shuffle to keep the pants from coming down any further.

We're pretty liberal with the dress code, but had to address this last year when some other students, who thought the saggy pants were hilarious, started sneaking up behind saggy guys and "pants-ing" them.

Office referrals for the "pants-ers," and in the office to call home for a change or a belt for the "pants-ees."

[LiberalFighter]

13. Flint MI is going beyond what they should.

I would agree with fines but they are too much and a waste of prison space putting them behind bars. 93 days is way too much. If there should be any prison time not more than 3 days. If they are young make the prison time during a time that would hurt them the most. Like the weekend.

[zanne]

21. I remember being young, and the more "old" people said "don't wear those"....

The more we wore those.

[High Plains]

27. Are you out of your mind?

Prison time for improperly worn pants? Jesus Christ, when we have "liberal fighters" arguing for jailing people for this shit, it's no wonder we have the world's largest prison population.

Imprisonment should be reserved for those we're scared of, not those we're just mad at.

[LeftinOH]

14. Someday, perhaps ass-cleavage will be acceptable in public.. and we'll

all look back at these anti-asscrack laws and chuckle about how prim and innocent things were 'back then'. I can't wait. :sarcasm:

[zanne]

18. I'm sure that's how our grandparents thought about short skirts....nt

[Art_from_Ark]

41. It depends on who your grandparents are

The "miniskirt generation" is now in its 50s and 60s!

[zanne]

44. Even Boomers had grandparents! nt

[Art_from_Ark]

46. But older boomers are at "grandparent age" now

I'll bet even Twiggy has grandkids now

[zanne]

52. Oh yes.. So what are you saying? nt

[Blue_Tires]

15. wow...the illustration really helps

thanks, detroit free press!

[dipsydoodle]

17. The solution seems to be

don't wear underwear. :shrug:

[zanne]

HAH! nt

[zanne]

19. dupe

[TahitiNut]

22. Where's the graphic depicting a female offENDer?

What if the female isn't wearing 3" worth of underwear? Are thongs exempt?

[dipsydoodle]

49. A lot depends

on whose thinging the thong :)

[Wednesdays]

23. I guess a lot of plumbers are gonna be in trouble

They typically expose more than 3 inches...and it's more than just underwear! }(

[snooper2]

25. Flipping through channels I stop on COPS once in a while...

And it never fails to see some fucking idiot running from the cops, only to fall on his ass due to his baggy trousers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[librechik]

26. uh oh. next step for the hippest: NO UNDERWEAR, and show no more than 3 inches

of butt crack.

Those officials are playing with fire.

[KG]

29. america...home of the free...

:eyes:

[ismnotwasm]

31. Oh for god's sakes

I've been waiting for that look to go away, which it will do, eventually, on it's own. Making laws just encourages it, and it's not my business, really if someone wants to dress like they got a load in their pants.

[TexasObserver]

32. What next? Fines for camel toes?

OK, that might be a good idea.

[Gold Metal Flake]

40. Fines, or rewards?

[TexasObserver]

43. The next time you see a woman in stretch pants, you tell me.

I don't favor plum smugglers for men, either. I have balls, too, I just don't try to put them on public display with tight clothes that cling to them.

[Gold Metal Flake]

56. Noted!

:hi:

[dipsydoodle]

50. Sound like ti Kokomo time

Cameltoe parody that is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MqftlZyVMh

[dipsydoodle]

59. Link didn't work

here's another : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MqftlZyVM

[bdamomma]

35. I really don't like the look

plus I am tired of telling my 15 yr old to pull up his pants. He is in the indecent exposure category.

[PVnRT]

36. And the sign says, people with baggy pants need not apply...

...and so it goes.

[underseasurveyor]

37. And what if they're swim trunks underneath

and not 'underwear'? So many little loopholes, so few laws to govern such unruliness.

[DailyGrind51]

38. The South Suburbs of Chicago are damn unfriendly.

I'm not surprised, you order a drink in a strange bar in Des Plaines or Evanston (North suburbs) and don't be surprised if the next one is "on the house", order a drink in a strange bar in either Lynwood or Hickory Hills (South suburbs) and the bartender might not even acknowledge your presence until after he has served his "regulars". They tend to be somewhat "clannish" in them southern burbs.

[Tindalos]

42. This is blatant descrimination

What about all the other serious crimes committed every day? You know what I mean - camel toes, muffin tops, ugly shoes. Why are we not punishing these crimes? I demand equal treatment for all crimes against fashion! Who's with me?

[AlCzervik]

45. what is the fine for muffin top, badly applied make up, ill fitting bra's that cause uniboob?

Mom jeans, pant's below the belly in front, huge belt buckles that i just don't care to look at, leggings, who greenlit those coming back, and pleated pants, i don't like any of the things i listed.

[TexasObserver]

47. ass cleavage is the new big thing

Or so my pop culture sources tell me (grown kids).

I never thought I'd live to see the day young women were showing two inches of butt crack and considering it fashionable.

[symbolman]

48. Disorderly conduct? This ain't the Military folks :(

When I was a young man you gave cops a good reason for charging Disorderly Conduct.. You kicked their asses.

If some cop was gonna take me to jail for underwear showing I'd have nothing much to lose by kicking the shit out of him, I spent formative years in Ill, and it was basically War between Cops and longhairs (and my black pals of course), and I found out fast that Chicago cops, and north/south of there had IQ's of about room temperature, on a cold day..

My old factory punk room mate once beat up the entire Winthrop Harbor Police force singlehandedly for less, while I stood by and laughed :)

Nothing new here really, tho I'm thinking that image would make a killer T-Shirt..

[JANdad]

65. So do you always tell outrageous stories

when drunk or feeling a little froggy tonight????

[symbolman]

66. Dont drink anymore, haven't for years..

no apologies for having lived a full life, with the mistaken idea after 'Nam daze that I had earned freedom, and free speech, until the pigs kicked my tail pretty good too..

I actually thought of writing a book called, "Officer Friendly" about all my cop experiences, I could easily fill one from back in the days when they either practiced Total Brutality, to being pulled over drunk (before it was Illegal) when my pal (the one who beat up the WH police force) and I would get out, assume the Position, and then laugh at the cop while saying things like, "Can I have my bullet, Andy?" - or they'd tell my pal to pour out his beer, at which time he dutifully Guzzled it, while the cop yelled, "On the Ground, Boy!"...

It was a lot more fun then, everyone had each other's backs, we practiced something called "Brotherhood" back then, which is totally Alien to most people now.. A bunch of sorry fucks desperate to be COOL by acting COLD, and wondering why they can't get laid, have no real confidence, or where all they phony friends took off to when they needed them the most...

Wish I had a Time Machine, this era sucks badly, miss those days when people cared, or when if a man was being wicked another man would teach him some manners by swelling his mouth shut.

If I tell the truth the PC squad always brands me as a liar or a mean asshole, when in fact people in general were just more Human back then.. They all look like preening, whining self absorbed, dickless corporate veal to me, sorry if that sounds terse, but now I guess it's my cross to bear for living past 30, which I never expected to do anyway..

Next chapter, about how I crashed in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve in a flaming helicopter, and how the early signs of global warming (the melted permafrost saved us from auto-rotating too hard into the tundra) just MAY have saved my life, and kept my teeth from rattling around inside my skull like popcorn... Took them Four days to find us, and they knew Where we were...

Oh, wait.. I DID write a book about my six months in the Tundra looking for Uranium by chopper.. It's called "The Jesus Bolt" - and I wasn't drunk or feeling froggy when I lived OR wrote about it :)

[dipsydoodle]

51. Bellies can be a big issue too

[Bettie]

54. While it is a fashion statement I really don't understand....

...and can't even imagine could be comfortable, making a law against it is wrong.

Dress is expression and whether I (or someone else) approve is not really a statement of law.

That said, does anyone really wear their pants BELOW the buttocks? I mean, really, not just gross, but I can't imagine that it would be comfortable or safe, what if you had to move fast?

I feel so old some days!

[Buns_of_Fire]

55. But what of those who prefer wearing their underwear on the OUTSIDE of their clothes?

[Runcible Spoon]

57. nobody has pointed out that this is pretty racist?!

we all know "which kinds of people" wear these fashions, now don't we Lynwood? :eyes:

"The American Civil Liberties Union says the ordinance targets young men of color."

Fucking suburbs wanting to whitewash everything. Sad. Not surprised to see so many DUers signing off on this...

[spin]

58. "Not a black/white issue"...

Some Auburn Hills City Council members are tired of seeing young men dressed in baggy pants with their underwear showing or teenage girls garbed in low-cut tops - and they're hoping to do something about it.

****snip****


"This is not a black/white issue," he said. "It's not just black kids doing it. It's not just white kids doing it. It's not just Hispanic kids doing it. It's all kids doing it.

"We've got to take back the community."
http://americandecency.org/main.php?f=updates_new/2008/February/02.11.08

I understand the baggy pants emulates prison garb where one size fits all.

While admittedly the majority of youthful Captain Underpants boys that I noticed have been black, I've also seen white teenage boys with with their pants hanging low.

I'm not overly upset by the display, but I don't quite understand the mindset. Wearing very loose pants would be a major drawback in a fight.

[Indenturedebtor]

62. Nope, in the mid-nineties it was a black fashion

Now it's everyone doing it. Prohibiting this is just plain stupid though.

Asscrack fine... gimme a break :eyes:

[Cronus Protagonist]

60. The exact same law should apply to breast cleavage

Or it should be struck from the books.

[fascisthunter]

61. what a waste of tax money... absolutely ridiculous

anyone in favor of this needs to have their head checked.

[jmowreader]

63. They banned plumbers?

[book_worm]

64. McCain: "I'm for this law! In my day a real man didn't even wear underwear--and we loved it!"