UNBELIEVABLE!....Chris Matthews just said the Iraqis should be "grateful" the Americans freed them.

[glarius]

The arrogance of that statement is stunning. Hundreds of thousands of their fellow citizens were killed (not to mention all the dead young American servicemen who died unnecessarily) and Matthews thinks they should be showing gratitude for being rid of Sadam Hussein.

[malaise]

1. He should read Shock Therapy

I've finished 100 pages and I'm pissed. Poor stupid Tweety.

[gateley]

4. Shock Therapy or the Shock Doctrine?

If it's Shock Therapy, what's it about?

[Virginia Dare]

6. LOL! He needs some shock therapy...n/t

[malaise]

12. LOL

:hi:

[malaise]

11. Shock Doctrine

My bad. The shock therapy is just the Friedman voodoo economics associated with the Doctrine. See with me - I've had about three hours sleep in the past 36 hours. :D

[Parche]

2. I Would Rather Have Saddam In Power Again, And 4100 Of Our Brave Soldiers Still Alive

:cry: :hi:

[Virginia Dare]

8. Not to mention possibly as many as 1 million Iraqi citizens...n/t

[eleny]

3. Now, where did we hear something similar? ...

Oh, yeah! Slavery. Africans taken into slavery ought to be grateful for being brought to America and xtianity.

Oh brother.
:eyes:

[treestar]

5. Heck, even if it were totally true, it would only hurt their pride

What Americans expect from the rest of the world is sometimes downright stupid. You can't go around setting people up then saving them and expecting to be the hero. The world is not a romance novel, and those countries have men in them. They think themselves perfectly capable of handling their own affairs, and could have gotten rid of Saddam their own way and their own better way. That's all they're going to think.

[madfloridian]

7. No more unbelievable than saying we gave them the "gift of freedom"

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1953

Hillary:

""In the last five years, our soldiers have done everything we asked of them and more. They were asked to remove Saddam Hussein from power and bring him to justice and they did. They were asked to give the Iraqi people the opportunity for free and fair elections and they did. They were asked to give the Iraqi government the space and time for political reconciliation, and they did. So for every American soldier who has made the ultimate sacrifice for this mission, we should imagine carved in stone: 'They gave their life for the greatest gift one can give to a fellow human being, the gift of freedom.'

[babylonsister]

9. "Iraqi blood started flowing in buckets, then barrels, then streams and then rivers."

Yes, I'm sure they are ever so grateful. :eyes:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/92150

Iraqi Blood, Dirt Cheap

Posted by Fatih Abdulsalam, Azzaman at 3:36 AM on July 21, 2008.

Iraqi blood started flowing in buckets, then barrels, then streams and then rivers.


Five years ago, international media weighed Iraqi blood drop by drop. Every drop that was shed was newsworthy and occupied their highlights.

That was with the start of the U.S. invasion of 2003.

But as the invasion which the occupiers -- the U.S. and the U.K. -- sold to us as 'liberation' turned into one of the most devastating and destructive military campaigns in man's history, Iraqi blood started flowing in buckles, then barrels, then streams and then rivers.

It was too much for the media to accommodate. It became commonplace and in media terms no longer newsworthy despite the lakes and oceans that began forming as the streams and rivers started discharging their blood.

Iraqi deaths are no longer important. Their numbers attract no more attention. If the deaths are too many, then a subtitle will do the job.

Iraqis are being killed, injured and maimed in droves on a daily basis. But still that is not enough reason for the media to care.

Someone killed anywhere else -- Israel, Pakistan, India, Lebanon, you name it -- gets more attention than the daily flood of Iraqi blood.

Today Iraqi deaths have no place to be buried like millions of Iraqi refugees who have nowhere to go with almost all countries shutting their doors in their face.

There is even no one to collect the body parts of Iraqis as they are torn to pieces during U.S. military operations or car bombings. A respected burial is a dream in Iraq today.

Ancient Iraqis were the first among world nations to compose epics mourning their dead. Today there is no one to accept condolences. The difference between life and death has disappeared in U.S.-occupied Iraq.

Official counts of Iraqi deaths, if they exist, are there for political reasons. In fact there is no authority in Iraq to count Iraqi deaths.

Even the U.S., the 'beacon' of democracy and human rights, says it keeps no records of Iraqis it kills. How cheap!

Iraq has been bleeding profusely since the U.S. invasion.

The U.S. and the authorities it sponsors have been fuelling this bloodshed through their words and deeds.

Whatever they say or do leads to more bloodshed.

Their announcement of fresh military operations means more bloodshed. Their decision to redeploy troops means more bloodshed. The transfer of security to Iraqi authorities means more bloodshed. The decision to send more troops means more bloodshed. The decision to scale back the troops also means more bloodshed.

But as Iraqi blood flows, the occupiers, their stooges and the lackeys of other foreign powers must understand that they will soon begin bleeding as profusely as their victims.

Iraqis now have nothing else to lose. On the road to avenge their blood, it will be time for the others to bleed.

Let no one think that Iraqi blood is so cheap.

[TexasObserver]

10. Comparing the Allies entering Paris to Americans entering Baghdad!!

Tweety is an idiot, but sometimes he really out does himself.

[glarius]

13. I was dumbfounded by that comparison too.

When they entered Paris, they really WERE liberators. The invasion of Iraq is entirely different. An illegal act of aggression.

[TexasObserver]

16. Exactly. The "liberation" of Iraq was more like the "liberation" of Czechoslovakia by Germany.

How does Tweety come up with the bizarre comparisons that have no rational basis in fact?

[Virginia Dare]

21. Once Hitler was removed the war in Europe was over..

once Saddam was removed the war in Iraq began.

[malaise]

17. That was unbelievably stupid

but it's Tweety.

[TexasObserver]

20. Yes, the Iraqis are like the Parisians who lay sunning on the river bank.

As Allied troops liberated them.

He's lost his fucking mind!

[Virginia Dare]

22. I just heard him a couple of months ago..

berating some poor fool about spouting historical references that he knew nothing about. Glass houses and all that, Tweets.

[Muttocracy]

27. you're right - that young GOPer who didn't know what appeasement was about. nt

[Middle finga]

18. Americans entering Baghdad was more like the Germans entering

Paris during WWII

[DailyGrind51]

14. "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose!" I guess, Chris?

[Middle finga]

15. The mindset of the arrogant American Imperialist.....

I'm sure the average Iraqi don't give a fuck about American Democracy. Their concerns are security,feeding and providing for their families in which Saddam provided. The Iraqi people have shown us that they are not afraid to fight so if they were really tired of Saddam they should have been the ones to over throw him.

[NNN0LHI]

19. As much as we hate Bush who would be happy about China using Shock and Awe on us to remove him?

And then occupy America and put a puppet government in the White House and have armed to the teeth Chinese soldiers and mercenaries on every street corner asking for your papers?

Would you be grateful to the Chinese if they did that for us?

Don

[glarius]

23. Exactly!.....put yourself in the other guy's boots!....n/t

[Virginia Dare]

24. They may do it yet, you never know...n/t

[fascisthunter]

25. Anyone Remember How He Reacted to Stephanie Miller...

...when she said he was a right wing tool on his own show?

yup... she was right.

[Dukkha]

26. with liberators like us who needs oppressors?

they should also thank us for holding the door open for Al Qaeda's infestation that wasn't there before.

[Muttocracy]

28. indeed. nt