Novak has Hit and Run before- We filed charges against him for ASSAULT in 2004

[symbolman]

Hey, upon hearing of Novak's "hit and run" story I realized that this asshat has done this before, and there were MANY witnesses, as a matter of fact me and a few other people filed Assault charges against him in 2004.

We were covering the Primaries in 2004, and were in downtown New Hampshire outside of the restaurant where they were just finishing up shooting Crossfire.. there was a small crowd assembled, and greeting Novak and others as they left - not saying nice things, as a matter of fact the guy he assaulted called him a Traitor to Novak's face, and had been giving him shit during breaks in the broadcasting of Crossfire, this was when the Plame affair had basically hit the news.

So on the ice Novak went Ballistic.. he shoved this guy about ten feet backwards, and he would have fallen had I not caught him. Then Novak drew back his fist and had a total meltdown face glaring at us, he was going to smash this guy in the face, HARD. I've worked in two mental Institutions and never seen a face like that, it scared me, and I'm no puss.

Novak got drug away, then ran into the CNN bus a few feet away. The crowd was going wild over this, they'd all seen it, so I went over to the bus and beat on the door, demanding that Novak apologise, or that someone defuse the situation, it was getting out of control. Some chipper little producer cracked the door and played "I know Nothing" games with me, so I went back to the crowd, thinking that maybe they'd rock the bus if they got pissed enough.. No Novak.

Then BOW TIE BOY walks out, right into the middle of this hubbub. Starts wagging his little beatle cut around like a little french whore saying, "Big deal, he SHOVED him, he's a 70 year old man, what can HE DO?" So I stepped in real close and said, "Hey Tucker, how about if *I* SHOVE YOU back about Ten FEET on this ICE?"

The look on his face was Priceless, I'll never forget it. He Blanched. Pale. Got an instant "Get me the fuck OUTTA HERE" panic attack. :) he grabbed the nearest Nutcase (a weirdo running for Prez) and furiously started gabbing with the guy, moving him out of the crowd by the elbow to escape.

What a tool.

Then about four of us convince the assaulted man to go to the Police Station and file charges against Novak for ASSAULT. We spent about three hours there, and all gave Testimony, were under Oath, and filed them as affidavits. We even had a millionaire pal with us who was paying for everything, and I kept telling him to get the Assaulted man a Lawyer, to follow this up, get Novak into Discovery, and THEN ala Clinton, ask Novak OTHER Questions, like ones about Valerie Plame :) would have been JUICY..

SOOOOO... Maybe I should pass along this Info to The Smoking Gun site, and call the producer at the Abrams show (who's used some of our Siegelman footage before) and alert them to this. Smoking Gun might dig up the Offense and we can get it to the State in case they want to USE IT, and FUCK NOVAK..

Because in the end he Needs to be Fucked, if ever anyone (besides KKKarl, Bush, and Cheney Co) deserved it. :)

Freedom of Information Act still work?


ON EDIT:

HEY! Found a WASHINGTON POST ARTICLE ABOUT THIS!

HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1084715

Taunt! Push! Shove! Quote! Counterquote!

By Richard Leiby
Wednesday, February 4, 2004; Page C03


Bob Novak, the pugnacious conservative pundit, may have to answer an assault charge in Manchester, N.H., stemming from an altercation with an activist on primary night last month. The dust-up ensued after Brad Carr, 54, who calls himself "an independent citizen" who's against the Bush administration, taunted Novak, 72, a host of CNN's "Crossfire," which was broadcasting live from a restaurant.


OOOPS. WAPOST Link no longer Valid.. we're still checking on it..

[monmouth]

1. Ooooh, you are GOOD!. This needs to get everywhere. Wonder

if Keith will mention it tonight. That would be a hoot. I think Bobby might need lots of anger management therapy. Thanks for the post.

[panader0]

2. You have remarkable restraint

Of course, you have to. If I had been there, I think I might have conked Tucker's and Novak's heads together. Don't even ask me what I might do in the presence of * or cheney. (Take one for the team)

[Eric J in MN]

3. Why didn't the shoved man file a lawsuit? NT

NT

[symbolman]

4. He's Poor.

The guy lives in the wood, chops his own wood for heating, has no money, no way to get a lawyer.. but we at least filed the Report, and charges for the State to take over..

Like I said, we had a Millionaire pal with us, and he couldn't see that we could have REMOVED Novak from CNN at minimum, maybe get the goods on him on the Plame thing at max..

Still, Someone Might be interested in this Filing, maybe I need to contact KO's producer and see if they'll get that filing and USE IT on TV, a chance to fuck CNN by another station, heard they love that :)

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[JuniperLea]

6. Dude! Send this story to everyone you can think of...

It's your duty as an upstanding and patriotic citizen of the US of A!!!

[pleah]

7. K&R!

[symbolman]

8. That's it

I'm Telling Keith :)

Anyone got his email addy handy? I'm putting together the names and dates to send around to news Orgs..


Good idea Juniper, think I'll write it up and send it over to Buzzflash, they like my stuff :)

Then maybe it'll hit the Blogsphere...

I'd love to do TV again, been a long time (was on O'Reilly once, twice on Scarborough, once on Lou Dobbs).. lotsa fun, you lay the TRUTH on these right wing pigs and they fold up like lawnchairs :)

[valerief]

9. Wow. He's the Halle Berry of the news world. nt

[zanne]

11. If Novak really didn't know he had hit someone, he may have dementia.

Some elderly people are diagnosed with Alzheimer's only after something bad happens. My husband was in a grocery store parking lot a few years ago when an elderly woman accidentally ran over a woman and her son, then accidentally put the car in reverse and ran them over again.

The woman died and the elderly woman weas diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Novak is 77 years old. I'm not saying that all elderly people develop dementia, but some need to have their licenses revoked for other reasons, like slow reflexes.

[valerief]

13. I'm sure he was just trying to not get caught. Like Halle Berry. She drives to kill. nt

[TrogL]

22. My mother is 94 and sharp as a tack

...and about as abrasive.

Novak didn't realize he'd hit him because he couldn't have hit him - things like that don't happen to people like Novak.

[zanne]

23. I know that lots of elderly people don't lose their acuity...

I just kinda worry about the ones that do and don't realize it until somebody winds up dead.

I'm really glad you still have your mom. I wish mine had lived that long. I have an elderly aunt (95) who is now in a nursing home. About ten years ago, she drove into our fence. I took a ride with her and she was treating stop signs and red lights as though they were optional.

I was very worried about it because she and my mother often went out together and my aunt always
drove. The second time she plowed down our fence, I called the DMV and asked them what to do about it. They sent her a notice saying she needed to take a driver's test. She passed with flying colors, went home and drove right into her front steps.

She still drove for a few years after that until she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

[wordpix]

42. mine is 83 with dementia but she'd certainly know if she hit someone splayed on her windshield

She can hear the guy in the apt. upstairs banging around and her vision is fine.

[Virginia Dare]

44. I think he's probably just a very aggressive driver..

he expects everybody to get out of HIS WAY, because he's a pompous ass. The victim also stated that Novak was not paying attention, so my guess is he was probably talking on the phone, which is illegal, or he was looking down at something.

No way he didn't know he hit something though.

[whathehell]

19. Are you sure you don't mean Naomi Campbell?,,,?

Halle's an actress and I've never heard of her hitting anyone. Naomi, on the other hand, was just arrested for having it out with a flight attendant, and before that, hitting a maid with a telephone (!!)..Pretty sure I got those details right.

[valerief]

20. Halle Berry is known for being a reckless driver and nearly killed someone

with her car a few years ago.

Naomi Campbell is also black, if that's what your point is.

[whathehell]

30. I had no "point" to make. .

...just thought you might have made a mistake:shrug:

[barbtries]

36. halle berry

had a hit and run on sunset boulevard where a woman was injured and halle berry never saw the inside of a jail cell. it was years ago and got lots of press

[Celebration]

38. she also has diabetes

That is a valid medical reason for that happening. But, if that happens to her she shouldn't be driving. Hypoglycemia is a big problem with people who take insulin.

I believe her on this.

[barbtries]

40. i don't

that could have caused the WRECK, but that doesn't begin to explain her leaving the scene. no way. if it was the case, stop call 911 and get help for both parties. no i don't buy that for a second.

[Celebration]

41. she could easily have blanked out

The whole thing. Reactions like this are very unpredictable. While she was out of it, she made a very poor choice. But she was not coherent.

She should not have been driving, but she did not make the choice to leave the scene rationally, because she was incoherent.

[barbtries]

51. then she shouldn't have a driver's license.

straight up. my daughter was killed by a hit and run driver. no excuse is good enough.

[valerief]

46. I remember reading that her neighbors had complained about

her fast, reckless driving before the hit and run happened. They said she always drive way too fast and carelessly. That's not diabetes. That's reckless endangerment.

[formercia]

10. I never thought I'd get hot over skanky old rough trade like Novak.

..but the thought of him getting fucked was just too much. :rofl:

[Zodiak]

12. I rememeber the incident

You had a video of it, didn't you?

Might be good to refresh our memories to post a link to it again.

I just remember Tucker's little bowtied bastard ass yammering on in defense of Novak.

By the way, the guy that he pushed was about Novak's age, if I recall.

[symbolman]

14. Unfortunately no

the person with the camera was SHORT! And behind me, when I caught the guy.. if she'd been four inches taller she would have caught it all, especially that FACE with the arm rachetted back, ready to SMASH the man's face, or mine.. he was GONE, man.. :)

I'll look for a link, was on Takebackthemedia way back when, might be gone by now..

The guy he pushed was relatively young, but Stout, I have back problems and it hurt me to catch the guy! He FLEW on that ice, I had no idea that Novak had it In Him, but when it comes down to Adrenaline all bets are off, eh?

[unapatriciated]

35. I remember it too and thought there was a vid of it.

[symbolman]

15. HEY! Found a WASHINGTON POST ARTICLE ABOUT THIS!

HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1084715

Taunt! Push! Shove! Quote! Counterquote!

By Richard Leiby
Wednesday, February 4, 2004; Page C03


Bob Novak, the pugnacious conservative pundit, may have to answer an assault charge in Manchester, N.H., stemming from an altercation with an activist on primary night last month. The dust-up ensued after Brad Carr, 54, who calls himself "an independent citizen" who's against the Bush administration, taunted Novak, 72, a host of CNN's "Crossfire," which was broadcasting live from a restaurant.


Ooops, sorry, the Wash Post Link is no longer valid..

Still Poking around the web on this one.

[malaise]

16. Great stuff Symbolman

:yourock: :hi:

[symbolman]

17. Here is the SCOOP

I Found it :)

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_050804_novak_s_history_of_a.htm

Tried to put it in the first Post, but the EDIT is beyond the time frame now..

__________________________________________________________________________________

A Take Back the Media SCOOP - Novak savagely attacks onlooker at New Hampshire Primaries.

From Takebackthemedia.com on January 27th, 2004 --

CNN has created massive coverage of the New Hampshire Primaries - bringing with them on their gaudy Election 2004 bus a host of their news anchors, including one Robert Novak - who is most well known for his obfuscating on CROSSFIRE.

Remember Robert Novak? He's the source of the Valerie Plame CIA outing in the media and has never been called to task for what appears to be a rather substantial breaking of Federal LAW.

As of this date, for nearly 100 days no one in this administration has wanted to touch this - for apparently someone high in the Bush administration has to have passed this information along to Novak, and whoever did that may be culpable legally as well.

It looks like there is some movement in that direction - a Grand Jury is being empaneled for this purpose. To me if looks like Novak is screwed either way. If he tells WHO gave him that information - he has no credibility - if he DOESN'T talk, he may be jailed. He may be jailed anyway - as I understand it (and I am not a lawyer) this is a CRIME.

So it would make sense that Novak is worried - perhaps to the point of losing his cool or his mind - which he did on January 27 outside of the Merrick Restaurant at about 5:15 pm. I was there, I saw it - I even caught the guy that Novak attacked.

I can't get the image out of my mind. Novak looked like a little caged animal - fist locked and *censored*ed back, he wasn't through with his victim before getting hustled off and onto the bus.

How did we get to this moment?

We'd been covering the Primaries in New Hampshire for over two weeks - filming, writing, etc.


MORE at the LINK..

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_050804_novak_s_history_of_a.htm

I can send this to KO now :)

[joanski0]

39. I sure do remember that!

You are a hero of mine.

[Maestro]

49. Who insures this zombie?

Cut him off. He's a menace!

[symbolman]

18. Hey folks, pass this link and info around please

despite the heavy trim here on the thread by Mods (and thank god for that), there's some interesting information here that should get out there in the Blogosphere, tell your pals, the Link on David Swanson's site is still valid after all these years.

The man needs to be Jailed for this, if you or I did it, we'd be calling lawyers and bailbondsmen from a cell.

[trueblue2007]

48. i'M SENDING THIS TO ALL MY DEMOCRAT FRIENDS. Maybe Buzzflash will mention

Maybe a few DEM blogs will post this info about Novak.

[graywarrior]

21. Here's my hit and run to you, symbolman

:hi:

[symbolman]

24. Lol!

Gads that duck still kills me :)

I'd ask you to rip out Novaks heart but I'm sure it's withered and run away by now :)

[graywarrior]

28. I'd do it but my GD therapist would be vewy vewy upset

[CatWoman]

25. I remember that!!!

:hi:

Novak is such a DOUCHE!!

[symbolman]

26. You know what the problem was?

It was 10am - Novakula isn't supposed to be out of his Coffin during daylight hours :)

[CatWoman]

27. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

:rofl:

[opihimoimoi]

29. OMG...ANOTHER ONE??? Hit and Run? OMG.....Mike...ya got um dude...send the

story to KO....

Hellos to all....

Opi

[symbolman]

34. Sent and sent, to Abrams & Buzzflash, and my pal Mark Crispin Miller..

next up The Smoking Gun site, would LOVE to see the charges we filed and affidavits, etc :)

Hey, hope we see you again before we vacate the Islands, should only be here no later than mid August, and may be camping out starting the end of next week or so.. Gonna be between homes for a spell due to the Economy, and being so poor we can't pay attention :)

Maybe we should find a campsite on your Island and we can all sit around the fire and hear all about your plans for the President Obama Celebration Luau..

It's a great idea Bra!

Mahalo & Aloha

[opihimoimoi]

47. Hey...sorry to see ya leaving man...where ya heading for??

When ya get to a phone...call me

we got lots to yak about...

Opi

[symbolman]

50. You got it

maybe PM me a number & good time to call as my IPhone erased all my contact info for everyone when I downloaded 2.0 as the G3 came out.. Only Sucky thing about that unit, and never happened before...

Maybe we can have a mini Luau DU get together before we split for parts unknown ? :)

We'll talk, Mahalo Bra!

[thecrow]

31. Found another account which quotes the WAPO

(since the WAPO story "cannot be found"....



WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2004
Pundit Novak accused of shoving name-calling foe in N.H.
Washington Post
Brad Carr, 54, admits taunting Bob Novak last month in Manchester, N.H. The columnist and "Crossfire" host "grabbed me by the arm . . . gave me a little shove, cocked his arm back as though he was going to hit me, and then someone from behind dragged him away," says Carr. NOVAK'S VERSION: "He was calling me a traitor and a scumbag . . .Somebody pushed me after yelling at me, and I just pushed back at the guy that was pushing me, and it was him."
> Novak won't have anything to do with documentary about media (BG)
Posted at 9:16:57 AM

E-mail this item | QuickLink this item: A60416
http://www.poynter.org/dg.lts/id.45/aid.60416/column.htm

[thecrow]

32. and another.....

Tuesday, November 22, 2005
Novakula attacks, again
On an airplane:



According to our unofficial mascot on the flight, Novak was boarding an American flight to Chicago when he cut in front of another passenger while entering first class. The guy protested and laid a hand on Novak -- who responded by socking him and threatening to knock his teeth out.

Not mild-mannered Bob? We reached Novak in Maui, just minutes into yesterday's game."Some guy pushed me and I pushed him back," he said, shouting into the phone from the stands. "That's all there was to it." Both offending parties were scolded by airline staff and huffed to their respective seats.


Get this man into the ring.



On the afternoon of last year's New Hampshire primary, Robert Novak was in the Merrimack Diner in Manchester broadcasting a segment of Crossfire. It was a garden-variety event for Novak, then on his 12th presidential campaign and his umpteenth edition of CNN's gabfest, until a local man, furious with Novak for outing a covert C.I.A. agent in his syndicated column, started shouting at him during a commercial break. "You're a traitor!" he shrieked. "You're a traitor!" The man was hushed up, the program resumed, and Novak talked more politics.

But afterward, as Novak made his way to the CNN bus, his tormentor followed, taunted him some more, and allegedly shoved him from behind. Novak, a short septuagenarian whose three-piece suits hide a considerable gut, grabbed the much larger man by the arm and gave him a shove back, sending him sprawling. Then he prepared for more serious skirmishing. "Novak looked like a little caged animal, fist locked and cocked back," an unsympathetic observer later wrote, "like a garden troll gone insane." Before he could take another swing, his Crossfire counterpart Paul Begala dragged him away.



Like a garden troll gone insane. Priceless.

At least Novak will have another career to turn to when he hands in his pen.




Permalink posted by Jonathan : 12:12 PM

http://blogoland.blogspot.com/2005/11/novakula-attacks-again.html

[symbolman]

33. Garden Troll gone Insane was my line :)

Thanks for looking these stories up, killer stuff!

I totally take issue with Novak's story, he's, as usual LYING.. I saw the whole thing and Brad was nowhere NEAR the back of Novak.. He was right next to me, and Novak was more than an arms length from both of us, Nofacts RUSHED Brad, caught him off guard, me too, and I've been in my fair share of bar fights.. If anyone was shoving Novak from Behind it was Begala trying tiger through the crowd and to the CNN bus at the curb - Begala pulled Novak away FROM behind..

Novak is totally full of shit and playing defense when his actions were indefensible. He's pretty strong and quick for his age, Brad was short but swarthy, bucked his own wood for the winter, but not a mean bone in his body..

I haven't written to The Smoking Gun yet, maybe they'll dig up those papers we filed at the cop shop and embarrass the Yoink even more if possible - hadn't heard about the Airplane assault.. Funny how Novak always claims someone came at him from "Behind" or out of Nowhere..

Maybe his fake eyebrows are slipping.. There's footage out there of a Crossfire segment where one of his eyebrows is trying to Flee his brow, and it was one of the funniest damn things I've ever seen, and his teeth were slipping all over at the same time..

I think the man's falling apart, literally :)

Thanks for documenting his Anger Mis-Management!

[wordpix]

45. hahahaha, good line---Garden Trollman needs to go to jail for his hit and run, not to mention Plame

[Imagevision]

37. Novak, at an age where he can't see/hear someone bounce off his Vette's hood/winshield...

[ensho]

43. I remember this happening and your report

get Novak