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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:46 PM Original message |
Driving home today, I heard a story on Democracy Now that shocked even me!! |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who the heck commits suicide by pouring acid on one's sex parts?! No doubt there is a cover-up here! |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Right. Forget the M-16 as a suicide weapon... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
60. Welcome to GWB's Iraq. nt |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #60 |
90. Combine our illustrious Hallibruton VP's name with land. That's KBR |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Just like the Wild West. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
81. More than likely it was done to try to prevent evidence of rape |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I'm reminded of the Gainesville murders by Danny Rolling. He managed to destroy |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
111. not to mention burning her hands first |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. since these KBR, Halliburton, and Blackwater guys are beyond the reach of the law... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wasn't that awful - I heard that this morning. |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. KBR |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. mew |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. The case was brought up briefly during the Tillman / Lynch hearing. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Listening again right now. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R! I hope justice is done here... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Link to her parents' site and to the PETITION to Congress: |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. such a beautiful young lady |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I've been in tears off and on all day. |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
66. ANd ONCE AGAIN............ |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Signed and will call Waxman's office...thanks for the link. n/t |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Signed. I truly hope that justice will be served |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
98. Iirc, Amy Goodman says there are more than ten,, maybe as many as |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. Kick, rec, bookmarked, and awaiting updates. n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. They'll get an answer when Novak gets arrested. In other words, never. nt |
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Ahpook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't give a damn how any of these assholes in this country... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Before the "surge", there were still a couple thousand doctors in Iraq. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I sawa video posted in which a man in uniform |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. OMG! That poor kid. I have a little guy that age. :^( |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Whoever classified that as a "suicide" is a fucking idiot. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. That's giving them too much credit. |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
59. An idiot? Like hell!! |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
67. Stop blurring the distinction....... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
86. But how could anyone not involved actually think that this was a suicide? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
109. Damn! You took the words right out of my mouth. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. It is utterly amazing and disgusting what these loathsome assholes think they can get away with. |
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Ahpook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. "They are already in Hell" |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Colin Powell said they all take Ambien to sleep. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Why don't they take a couple |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Indeed. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. good god.... |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. k&r |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. They'll never get the truth out of the Army. They murdered my step-brother in boot camp... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. That's horrible. I'm so sorry, Triana. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. My stepdad died in 1991. We couldn't talk about what happened without him tearing up... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I know. One of my aunts was murdered in Mexico City |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
80. I am so sorry |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I'm so sorry, Triana. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I'm so sorry, Triana |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. I am so very sorry *hugs* |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
52. I am sorry to learn of your SB's tragic death |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 04:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. i'm so sorry |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. This was decades ago. And his only legal guardian (dad) is dead. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. you're right |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #88 |
107. Karma... |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. thank you Triana |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
72. What a horrible thing to have gone through |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
105. Dear God, I am so sorry |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
30. There is something else that people are not getting about |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. no offense taken |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Crimes against women during the last seven years has |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
31. what the hell has happened to military internal affairs |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. Let's see first she broke her own nose, then lossened her own teeth, |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
36. I called my cogressperson as soon as I heard this today |
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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. DO SOMETHING !!!!! CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES !!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. We have to call Henry Waxman. He's the chair of the right committee. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
38. O. I'm nauseated about what they did to this women. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:23 AM Original message |
And so does her whole chain of command. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
40. Drug running in miliary .... "suicides" going on more than 15 years...? |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. Usually female soldiers are in danger from the enemy |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
42. LaVena is not the only victim . . . it seems like a pattern |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Then there are the multiple cases of KBR rape of their own female employees |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I am against the death penalty |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
83. yeah, i was about to ask how many more 'funny' accidents were on the books |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
47. Kick for the Truth |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
48. K&R because this needs to be seen. nt |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
51. The establishment must think we are a bunch of morans... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
92. They just don't care because they know that there is nothing we can, or will, do. n/t |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
53. Man, that just hurts me in the gut. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
55. Petition to Waxman - link |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. Thanks for the links |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
102. YW and ... |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
56. the tragedy is bad enough but to be also told deceitful lies.... |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
57. The story has gotten more horrible since I first posted it a year ago! |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
61. This part chilled me to the bone. How many times has this happened? |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
62. Grrr doesn't that make KBR a terrorist organisation? Huh?!?!?! n/t |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 04:39 AM Response to Original message |
63. she was murdered |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
65. I remember reading about her death being suspicious a while back |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
69. Years ago, I read of a death in central Aftrica |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
70. Support Our Troops |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
71. Tell all those warmongering, chickenshit Bush assholes who say that the soldiers volunteered . . |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
73. I think the rape numbers must be staggering |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
74. So she broke her OWN nose, knocked her OWN teeth loose, poured ACID on her genitals before shooting |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
95. Yeah, it was one of the worst cases of suicide they'd ever seen... |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
75. Her death is not being seriously investigated? |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Yes |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
97. The Army told a subcommittee that everything was fine. |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
76. HERE IS THE COURT TESTIMONY FROM THE DEFENSE DEPT |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
77. Another rape/murder by trained killers ...what would you expect? |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
79. OMG |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
84. God I hate this fucking country... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
85. It is entirely possible it was a legitimate suicide - please let me explicate before you jump on me |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. With an M-16? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Self-Delete |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. She was 5'1" and right handed. They say she shot herself with a rifle, |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
103. try reading the "defense" testimony above... |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
89. I had a nightmare about this story last night |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
93. Horrific..for her family as well as for what she must have gone thru. |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
100. Unbelieveable! |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
101. I listened to this story in the beauty of the New Mexico mountains, far from"civilization", ... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
104. K&R n/t |
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Bryan Sacks (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
106. It is a terrible story. . .and there are others, too |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
108. DemocracyNow today ...cops tazered another human to death... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
110. The people responsible for the cover-up have to be the scum of the earth. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
112. few want to join the army to go to Iraq except violence lovers. The recruiters are scraping |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
114. No wonder they don't want teh gayz |
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