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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:11 PM
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While no one was paying attention, 2 more banks failed today.
First Heritage Bank, NA, Newport Beach, CA

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/heritage.html

First National Bank of Nevada, Reno, NV

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/fnbnv.html

I don't think it's anything to worry about, though.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:12 PM
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1. I got back from vacation and found that there was a run on my bank...
It survived the run...this time.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:13 PM
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2. Holy shit. 2 more banks from the west. Thank you for posting. n/t
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:14 PM
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3. Many years ago I was offered a credit card from First National of Nevada
I turned them down

It appears I made the right choice.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:15 PM
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4. Damn!what the hell is happening?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:17 PM
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5. Banks wrote bad mortgages. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 09:19 PM by Junkdrawer
Liquidity problems.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:31 PM
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34. Um, a Depression?
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:23 PM
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6. That's 5 in the past 2 months.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 09:32 PM by Finnfan
In 2002, 6 happened in 3 months(in the aftermath of 9/11).

And 3 in a month hasn't happened in this century (the FDIC website doesn't list failures before 2000).

On edit: Corrected my math.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:29 PM
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7. Thanks for post. Didn't know.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:32 PM
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8. If you have an account at a recent failed bank, check this link


There is a drop-down box for a list of the most recent failed banks for people to inquire about their accounts.
http://www4.fdic.gov/dip/index.asp
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 01:08 PM
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33. Anyone who has under 100,000 in the bank does not need to worry.
As long as you are in an FDIC insured institution.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:33 PM
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9. More to follow n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:24 AM
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21. lots more, 900 troubled banks?


7/24/08 Why wasn't IndyMac on FDIC problem list?

<snippet>

Christopher Whalen, managing director of Institutional Risk Analytics, says "everyone expects regulators to be ahead of the curve, but they never are. It's hard for regulators to be proactive. If the FDIC was beating the hell out of IndyMac a year ago, the congressmen that represent IndyMac would have been all over them."

Whalen says the problem list understates the number of troubled banks. Of about 9,000 institutions, "we have identified about 10 percent that are in significant distress and another 10 to 15 percent headed in that direction," he says.

Whalen says the problem list should be closer to 900 companies instead of 90.


more about Why wasn't IndyMac on FDIC problem list? ...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/23/BU9A11TUKC.DTL
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:41 PM
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10. I am getting really worried. Thom Hartmann said the other day
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 09:42 PM by AllieB
that we are slipping into a hyperinflationary recession or depression, and that the conservatives are holding back the worst of it until Obama becomes president. The Dems in Congress are going along, creating a potential disaster for the party.

I'm reading Naomi Klein's 'The Shock Doctrine' right now, and it's scaring me that the scenarios that she describes could happen here.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 12:11 AM
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17. Thanks for sharing that seems to be true. A recent bill blew my mind.
Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 12:11 AM by napoleon_in_rags
It was like Reid was *trying* to build an economic shit bomb that would explode in Obama's face.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:56 AM
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27. That's what today's Fannie and Freddie bailout are about. Kick the can down the street.
Makes me wonder what oil prices will do in january.

I'm off heating oil: I just got a propane space heater. I'm staying warm without going broke.

Everyone: Look up Rinnai vented space heaters. They sip propane. Drop your bill by 65-70%.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:15 PM
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11. How does a bank in Newport Beach of
fabulously wealthy Orange County go bankrupt? That takes some mighty corruption!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:55 AM
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26. Orange County itself went bankrupt from corruption & mismanagement
Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 09:56 AM by rucky
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 12:42 PM
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32. I remember that...but that was
1994. Hey, maybe those same corrupt dudes got jobs at the bank!

We need Robin Hood....steal from the rich and give to the poor instead of what we have encountered. The middle class is expiring...it fed the rich.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:50 PM
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12. Check this out...
http://bankimplode.com/
If you have in excess of $100K on deposit and linked to your SS# in an FDIC insured insitution, you need to take immediate action.
You need to spread it around to other institutions so that you have under $100K/bank.
Anything over $100K/instution will be reimbursed at 50cents on the dollar if the bank fails.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:57 AM
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28. I really doubt there are a dozen such people on this site.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:51 PM
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13. This happened in the 80's. We're still here.
:hug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:53 PM
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14. Why would anyone here be surprised. Hundreds more to come.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 11:30 PM
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15. the bank took your farm.
but don't say depression. invest in wall street!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 11:40 PM
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16. They hide a lot .......... I am told
that the charade of this hypocrisy
is trying to be continued until the election.

Thanks....... The news is really worse
than you dream, except in alternative, energy, consciousness
hope and dreams
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harry123 Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 03:39 AM
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18. FDIC will insure up to 100,000 only.
I have been looking at these bank failures and sometimes uninsured deposits do not get reimbursed. This was the case when NetBank shut down and when Miami Valley Bank shut down. (see link: http://www.thestreet.com/newsanalysis/ratings/10400696.html). Otherwise you're insured up to $100,000. Here's a link to an explanation on my blog:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2008/07/some-people-may-get-stiffed-by-fdic.html

There's really no reason to panic unless you have uninsured deposits at a bank. So spread your money around. If you want a list of closed banks, I keep an up-to-date list here:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2008/07/bankrupt-global-financial-institutions.html

and I also follow all major writedowns here:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2008/05/credit-crisis-timeline.html

The writedown list is the most comprehensive on the web concerning larger organizations. G to it if you want to see what's happening to financial institutions.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:51 AM
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19. Thank you!

Appreciate the time you take to keep this updated, it grows daily. I have sent the link to family and friends.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:59 AM
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20. And No Guarantee You Get All 100K at once
I was reminded the other day that the FDIC does guarantee up to 100k, but the bank has up to 10 years (I heard someone way it could be extended even further).

Yes, the smart thing to do for those with that type of money is to diversify right now...parking in CDs and Money Markets...and, as you say, spread the money around and keep as much liquid as possible. Long term investors aren't panicking...just headed to the sidelines.

Thank you for the list of write downs...but, as you say, there is no need to panic at this point...especially as it's all but certain this regime will continue to bail out these banks. My only salvation is that next year we have a functional SEC again.

Cheers...
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:05 AM
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29. >>but the bank has up to 10 years
Whoa. That doesn't do much good for people who need to pay their bills *now*. And I gather from the above that the 50% on the $ after 100K is not required, just being done at this moment? - to try to avert panic, no doubt. I need some gold, I think (if I had the money). I'm picturing wheelbarrows, because I think they're going to inflate their way out of this.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:18 AM
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22. Kick !!!
:kick:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:49 AM
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23. Disaster capitalism in action. Now watch this trick...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:12 AM
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31. LOL
Very good :rofl:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:52 AM
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24. ask bu$h*, our economy is ROBUST
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 09:53 AM
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25. This isn't supposed to be happening to independent banks.
shit, mon.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:11 AM
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30. This made the news this morning
on GEM$NBC. What a surprise.
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