derby378
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Fri Jul-25-08 10:54 PM
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I do not, DO NOT want Obama to become Herr Decider's surrogate daddy |
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ginbarn and I were talking about the impeachment dog and pony show on Capitol Hill today, and she expressed the concern that just as Bush the Elder bailed his son out of the National Guard, just as Bush the Lesser was bailed out of every bad oil deal by Osama bin Laden and his other Saudi partners, he's going to be bailed out again - but this time by a presidential pardon from either Obama or McCain.
She also stated that, if nothing else, she wants George W. Bush to be hounded by the American people every single day for the rest of his life. And a pardon will ensure that Bush lives the good life, at the expense of taxpayers and innocent Iraqis, for the rest of his days.
And that means that Obama must not transform himself into another surrogate father for Bush the Lesser and extend him a pardon for his crimes against America.
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Fri Jul-25-08 10:57 PM
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1. But you used a double negative which mean you do. |
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:01 PM
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3. No, no, no - that would be "don't not want" |
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:02 PM
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5. They lurk in the bushes waiting to pounce, don't they!! |
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:08 PM
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8. I don't, don't, don't think that's a double negative. It's repetition for emphasis. |
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But just in case, I used an odd number of don'ts.
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Fri Jul-25-08 10:59 PM
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2. Obama said he would continue hearings and pursue justice against Bush if elected. n/t |
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:02 PM
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4. Then he shouldn't be listening to advisers who want Bush pardoned |
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I'm starting to get a little nervous.
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:03 PM
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6. Sadly, I'd be surprised if anything happened to little W that would require a pardon. |
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He's not smart, but he's crafty. He's letting all this play out in committees where those calling for his impeachment or imprisonment can be mocked and ridiculed, ensuring that no one will take any charges seriously. When he's gone from office, Americans will be so damn glad they won't look back at him once. If Reagan didn't die indisgrace in a federal pen, there's not much chance that Reagan's little boy will.
And yeah, I hope like hell I'm wrong, and I'll thank you for convincing me I am. :)
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:39 PM
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13. No one is serious about impeaching Bush. |
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I don't know why there are those that think they are.
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:08 PM
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7. I can see Obama wanting to put these 8 years behind him, and us |
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and to work on getting our troops out and our economy better.
I can see Obama not wanting to rehash those horrible years, not to waste time and money on them. It is going to be very hard for the next president - whoever he is - to try to salvage something from the debris and continuing to deal with the two of them will just make everyone tired and angry.
As it was said about Nixon: Bush and Cheney are like the dead mouse on the kitchen floor. Just pick them up and toss them in the trash and let's move forward.
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:14 PM
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9. That's what they said about Nixon and the architects of the failed coup of the 30s |
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The stench of the neofacists still permeates Capitol Hill. The only way we're going to "move forward" as a nation is to take a look back at what our nation is supposed to stand for - and then take our full measure against those who tried to destroy everything our nation stood for.
We need another Nuremberg.
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Sat Jul-26-08 01:09 PM
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15. I agree that there should be a commission of inquiry |
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to look at all the aspects of getting to war and abusing Guantanamo.
And, yes, of whether Bush is immune from prosecution because he acted within his authority.
We may not like what he did and we may want to see him rot in jail but I am not a constitutional expert - far from it - but I do remember something about not being able to sue the government..
It may end up reaching the supreme court of whether he is protected by his office.
Either way, that commission should not be part of the administration or of Congress, providing "excuses" for not moving on the more important issues.
Put it differently: while many on DU think that this is the only important issue, for most voters gas price, job security, access to health care, decent retirement and good school are a lot more important.
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Sat Jul-26-08 12:46 AM
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14. The government is still pursuing crimes |
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committed against people who died in the early 60s....why in the HELL should we let a war criminal go unpunished? Waste time and money??? You must be kidding.:puke:
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:19 PM
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10. Obama needs to have nothing to do with it. |
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All he has to do is let the Hague have him.
The crimes are against humanity. Let the rest of the world have at him.
Do they still execute war criminals?
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:23 PM
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11. Not at the Hague, they don't |
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I've always said that the Hague was too good for Bush...
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Fri Jul-25-08 11:38 PM
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12. A pardon? What makes you think he'll get to where he needs |
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to be "pardoned?" This is a dead end street.
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