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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:47 PM
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Russia slams Bush over Nazi link
Russia said that US President George W. Bush had insulted veterans of World War Two by equating the evils of Soviet communism with Nazi fascism.

The Foreign Ministry said Bush had coupled Nazi fascism and Soviet communism as "a single evil" and thus "hurt the hearts" of World War Two veterans in Russia and allied countries, including the United States.

Russia's foreign ministry said Bush's comments were part of an attempt to rewrite history in the United States.

"Such assessments simply feed the efforts of those, who for political and selfish ends are striving to falsify the facts and rewrite history," the ministry said.
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/1946332
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:51 PM
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1. W. neglected the fact that this country did not singlehandedly "win" the Second World War.
Russia was an ally and it made all the difference.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:15 AM
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12. ...as if he knows. give him a break, he's a history major -- really!
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:52 PM
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2. Has there ever been
an Administration of such morons?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:59 PM
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3. Not in my lifetime. But I only go back to FDR.
No seriously, this is the worst president in the history of this country. There can be no doubt.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:19 PM
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4. So, who wants to have a beer with this imbecile?
Anybody?

:shrug:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:24 PM
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5. ha...I thought this was going to be about the Bush family and its ties to the nazis, as in
Vesting order 247, or was it 248, when the government seized the assets of Union Bank whose chief bagman was dumbo's grandfather or great uncle, or something

you get the idea; old news here, but people tell me I'm lying when I tell most of them about it

http://www.mbpolitics.com/bush2000/VestingExplain.htm

http://www.mbpolitics.com/bush2000/Vesting.htm

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:34 PM
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8. I was hoping for that n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:27 PM
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6. How many more people have to say this before the GOPhers learn?
Damn. Why is it that no one in the GOP remembers history?

Not that convenient revisionist crap they spew on FOX, but the history that really happened?


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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:25 PM
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10. I'd like to see a study to see if there is a link between knowledge of history and politics.
I have a theory that there's a direct correlation between how conservative you are and how ignorant you are on American history.

Hell, people can even live through a period of time and remember it 180 degrees from what actually happened (example - Reagan). Based on achievements, Reagan was not a fiscal conservative; did not reduce the size of government; was not solely responsible for bringing down the Soviet Union; and did not live an exemplary "family values" life. Yet, people will argue that he was all of those things.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:32 AM
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11. I'd love to see that, too. n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:17 AM
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13. excellent theory, and welcome to DU!
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host Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:33 PM
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7. Bush Should Talk...his Grandpa's buddy was Samuel F Pryor
Samuel F Pryor's son, Sam F. Pryor Jr., gave Charles Lindbergh five acres of his Hana, Maui estate, and the two sleep eternally, buried yards apart in a private cemetery, in Hana..... Samuel Sr. sold Prescott Bush his "digs" on Juptiter Island, and Samuel Sr. and George Herbert Walker were partners in Atlantic Fruit...and Samuel Sr. was an original incorporating director, with the Harrimans, in Hamburg Amerika Shipping Lines, and in UBC, Union Banking Corp., seized by the Alien Property Custodian in 1942, while Prescott Bush was listed as a director and stockholder....
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:01 PM
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9. That statement is just false on every level.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 04:45 PM
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14. Long and consistent history
of how fascism uses communism as both bogeyman and scapegoat. I once tried to google the subject of American Fifth columnists to see whether any contemporaneous reporting delved into, say prescott Bush, Harriman and their ilk.

Surprise, surprise. Drowning out that obvious connection, with the unexpected exception of Ayn Rand, was a a constant noise machine chorus equating communists with fascists in all terminology and accusations, neatly avoiding the checkered record of the GOP and their corporatist base. So Hitler's so-called crusade against communism distraction was neatly transformed by casting their obvious sins on the best available
scapegoat. This was just not a philosophical or idealist equation of totalitarian regimes but a shift in all the identification labels.

Junior understands practically nothing of this hoary tradition but he certainly is mired in that continuum. And yes, ALL true citizen soldiers and patriots scare the be-jesus out of the neocons. All they want is malleable dumb thugs working for privatized armies as tools of control. Things to pamper and scorn and lie to with impunity and who are no threat to the lesser men of the Right.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:20 PM
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16. 20th Century history according to...

someone I was reading the other day (wish I could remember who) - foreign capitalists actually funded the Bolshevik Revolution as a means for extracting capital from the Russian imperial government. This eventually grew out of control, so then industrialists funded Adolph Hitler and his National Socialists (NAZIs). The thinking was that socialism would be contained through national patriotism, while corporations could do business with the German government. Perhaps they didn't realize how powerful this form of fascism would become, and when it grew out of control WWII happened.

When and if our government attacks Iran, the cycle may yet repeat.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 04:50 PM
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15. To be fair, Grandpappy Bush never made any money off of the Communists...
:evilgrin:
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