McCain: Orphans need a mommy and a daddy, not two mommies or two daddies

[marmar]

from ThinkProgress:



McCain Caves To Right Wing On Gay Adoption, Says Orphans Shouldn’t Have Gay Parents»

Earlier this month, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) took an extreme position on gay adoption, telling the New York Times he believes in “traditional” families even if it means leaving children in orphanages. “I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no I don’t believe in gay adoption,” he said.

But in follow-up statement, McCain aide Jill Hazelbaker backtracked, stating, “McCain could have been clearer.” She added that the senator would support gay adoption if there were no alternative:

However, as an adoptive father himself…he recognizes that there are many abandoned children who have yet to find homes. McCain believes that in those situations that caring parental figures are better for the child than the alternative.

Interviewed on ABC today, however, McCain reverted to his original radical position, telling George Stephanopolous that he does not support gay adoption in any circumstance:

McCAIN: I think that family values are important, when we have two parent — families that are of parents that are the traditional family.

Q: But there are several hundred thousand children in the country who don’t have a home. And if a gay couple wants to adopt them, what’s wrong with that?

MCCAIN: I am for the values that two parent families, the traditional family represents.

Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/27/mccain-gay-adoption-2/


McCain didn’t acknowledge that a two-parent family can also consist of same-sex parents. Unlike his spokeswoman, he also didn’t recognize that rejecting adoptions by same-sex parents means leaving thousands of children with no parents. As Winnie Stachelberg and Robert Gordon noted, about 130,000 children wait in the foster care system each year for a permanent home. And every year, half of these children are never placed.

In the interview, McCain repeatedly said that he is “for the values and principles that two parent families represent.” He also said preserving traditional families is “not the reason why I’m running for president of the United States.” Just seconds later, however, he reversed course and bluntly stated, “I’m running for president of the United States because I want to help with family values.”


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/27/mccain-gay-adoption-2/

[ck4829]

1. Unbelievable

[Demeter]

14. He Even Insults Single Parents With Such Bigotry

The man is stupid and senile.

[Solly Mack]

2. What a loser

[tularetom]

3. McCain needs one mommie to change his diaper

[dysfunctional press]

10. well...i would imagine that "mommy" (i.e. nancy) raygun has a lot of experience in that regard...

nt

[Kurovski]

16. At very least he needs to stop sounding like a cranky wag from the turn of the last century.

There is only one way that goofball will win, and it ain't legal.

[scarletwoman]

Cranking his what?

I support giving him a goofball, though. Wonder what he drinks.

sw

[Kurovski]

32. I'm not going to say Geritol. That would be ageist. Or something.

Hmmm...He hasn't taken the oath yet, so it can't be baby's blood with a puppy chaser.

I don't know what the hell that decaying fuckrod guzzles. However, we do know that he's had to eat a lot of shit to get where he's tottered to today.


Oops. That's ageist. someone beat my ass, whydoncha then?

[scarletwoman]

33. Yeah, you'd love that wouldn't you...

"...someone beat my ass, whydoncha then?"

:D
sw

[Kurovski]

35. I've got a better idea...

Cindy McCain should beat her old man's ass.

Did he really call her the "C" word? I haven't had internet access so i haven't properly researched it. I heard a woman on C-span's washington Journal call in about it, and she got cut...off right after getting the whole thing out! :rofl:

[scarletwoman]

36. True that.

And yes, it's been all over the internets that McLame called his wife the "c" word, right after he referred to her as a trollop.

Loveable old cuss, ain't he?

sw

[Kurovski]

38. Makes you wish you were married to him, am I right?

And by "married" I mean watching a tape of Cindy McCain on CNN leaving the courthouse after filing for divorce.

[scarletwoman]

41. Hmmm...

Say, Cindy dumps him... And say I'm a "black widow" type... Only I wouldn't be doing it for $$$, I'd be doing for the good of our country. :patriot:

You might have something there... Hmmm... :think:

sw

[Kurovski]

42. You are a true pantriot.

:patriot:

[scarletwoman]

43. And you are my inspiration!

:loveya:

[woo me with science]

4. This just makes my heart hurt. nt

[patrice]

5. Oh yes!!! It's much better that there be LESS Love in the world!!! than People of the same sex CARE

about one another!!!

:sarcasm:

[JerseygirlCT]

6. This sort of double talk tap dance has been the man's

hallmark in politics.

Note how many people still aren't sure about his positions on the issue of reproductive rights.

He's just an old-style bigot, who thinks his ignorance is ok, because he's being genuine.

Bah.

[pinto]

7. what a crock. He can't spin fast enough.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

8. If the polls are any metric...

I would say his "new" message is about 4-8 years too late. We, as a country, seem to have moved on from that sorry bit of fluffy entertainment.

See what has happened with the hiring of the long-time Rove underlings? McCain starts pandering to the most fringe groups he can identify.

[lonestarnot]

9. What a fucking fuckwad.

:eyes:

[LeftishBrit]

11. Disgusting.

What kind of 'family values' let children languish in care, without proper families?

[EFerrari]

12. More of those family values on wheels.

Fuck you, John. You'd think that someone who was forced to live away from their family would do better than this. What a flaming jerk.

[Kurovski]

44. I hope that dog-whistle of his goes missing up his ass.

Hi! :loveya: :hug:

[EFerrari]

45. And speaking of the disappeared!

Hey!

:hi:

:hug:

[Kurovski]

Heyheyhey.

Anuder hug...:hug:

[JeffR]

49. What makes you think you can just sneak back into DU, mister?

You got some splainin to do...

[beac]

13. Yeah, "two-parent families" like the kind he wrecked when he left his wife and

children (including his ADPOTED sons!) for a blonde twinkie heiress???

Nice "family values" McA-hole.

He's a total P.O.S.

[patrice]

15. I have not heard this yet. He adopted two boys in his first marriage?

I wonder what his relationship to them was after he divorced his first wife? What age were they at the time? Other than personal dignity (which IS good) what keeps people like that from telling us more?

[beac]

52. They are his first wife's children from her first marriage.

Her first husband cheated on her too, although she & McCain did marry just a little over one year after she initially sued for divorce from her first husband, so hmmmmmmmm.....


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-divorce11-2008jul11,0,6546861.story?page=2

[enki23]

17. to be fair, it's likely he doesn't really believe that

it's just that he's trying to become our president by appealing to the god whalloping, shit eating, pig fuckingest pieces of shit ever to blight the face of north america. the "base" of the grand old party. buncha veritable aristocrats, these assholes.

reminds me of a joke...

[pleah]

18. This asswipe must be trying for the KKK vote.

Because at the rate he's going that is all that will be left that will vote for him.


:crazy: McCrazy! Same as the old boss.

[Prophet 451]

19. And the evidence be damned!

There's been quite a lot of reserch done on how different enviroments affect kids. The single best enviroment for raising kids is the extended family (interestingly, most single-parent families I know "count as" extended families because relatives often help out). The next best is indeed, the two-parent family but the research says that it makes no difference what the genders of the two parents are.

Of course, a kid usually needs a role model of their own gender (if for no other reason than to explain the things that only apply to their gender i.e. shaving and periods) but it doesn't have to be a parent. Uncles and aunts, older siblings, close friends, any of those will do just as well.

[11 Bravo]

20. His family values consist of dumping the woman who waited for him ...

to come home. But after committing serial adultery, he finally found himself a trophy blond heiress. That's the guy I want lecturing me about family values.

[LynneSin]

21. Coming from a man who ditched his first family to cheat on another woman

and start another family!

[NNN0LHI]

22. This Repig married the woman he was porking while still married to his first wife

This is unbelievable.

Don

[flvegan]

23. Once OUT of the womb, repugs couldn't give a shit about kids/people.

[Disturbed]

25. McLame has a demented brain.

He cannot keep his policies on a logical track. He isn't qualified to be Pres. because he is mentally damaged. Yeah, he was a POW Hero many years ago, according to his proclamations but does that qualify him to be the Pres. of the US? Hell no!!!

[BreweryYardRat]

48. As George Carlin put it,

If you're "pre-born" you're fine, if you're born, you're fucked!

[gatorboy]

24. But it's all right for McCain to have two wifies?

:eyes:

[Midlodemocrat]

26. Children need fathers who won't call their mothers 'a c***'.

Family values, my ass.

[LynneSin]

27. I'll tell you what Orphans need - Orphans need someone to love them

And love knows no race, sex, sexual orientation, religious belief, etc. etc.

It's just love. And when you have hundreds of kids being processed thru an overworked Child Welfare system these kids don't get enough of it.

[derby378]

28. Someone should make McCain listen to this song

Call us America's sweethearts - we found a place in Roxbury
Where we can meet the mortgage, go to church on Sunday
I teach Communion class and David leads the choir
Ten years together, thinking about children

Lots of children out there beat up, beat down, hoping for a
Home and a harbor, a hand that doesn't hit
Where the form said father and mother, we had to cross it out
Father and father, that's David and me

Twelve months of waiting, suddenly two little boys on our doorstep
Scared and crying, gave them a bath and tucked them in
Three-year-old Jamie, little brother Scott
Jamie had a bruise like a boot in the middle of his back

Love is love, no matter who, no matter where
Love is love, and a child knows when it's there
They can pry away the fingers that graced these walls with dirt
They can pull us apart, they can lie, oh they can hurt
But love leaves a trace and the heart holds a place for love's return

McDonalds and K-Mart - do you know how hard it is to find kids' shoes?
Scott's first haircut, grinning and a little confused
Outside the aquarium, baseball jackets red and blue
A picture is like time that's standing still

Jamie was a scrapper, he punched his brother, decked the kid next door
He threw a plate at David then ducked and cowered waiting for the blow
After supper I held him close, "You're safe here, this is your home"
And the rains came to the parched and broken earth

But the papers smelled the headlines - gay parents, two little innocent boys
TV news on the front porch, politicians made a lot of noise
The liberal governor, he gave the order
Social worker phoned - "Have them ready at three"

Picked Jamie up at daycare, kids were running shouting as they played
We didn't want to tell him, maybe the Governor could have explained
Jamie was screaming when we strapped him in the welfare car
David said, "We love you," and they were gone

You find out who your friends are - some came 'round, some just let it go
Rallies on the common, people singing, people saying "no"
This is crazy - but Scott and Jamie
Are still pinballs in a busted machine

The kitchen's clean and quiet, we changed the furniture around
Still keep Scott's rabbit - in the middle of the night sometimes I wake to the sound
Of a little one crying when there's nothing there at all
David holds me, says "Go back to sleep"

Love is love, no matter who, no matter where
Love is love, and a child knows when it's there
They can pry away the fingers that graced these walls with dirt
They can pull us apart, they can lie, oh they can hurt
But love leaves a trace and the heart holds a place for love's return
And the heart holds a place for love's return

[Vinca]

29. McCain in favor of letting little kids rot in orphanages.

More compassionate conservatism? What an asshole.

[bullwinkle428]

30. Fucker needed to make his "Hey homophobic assholes...I'm your guy!" statement

:banghead:

[Missy Vixen]

31. Proud to be the fifth recommendation

I might also add that my husband was brought up by his uncle and his uncle's partner. His heterosexual parents weren't quite up to the task.

John McCain is nothing more than a bigot.
Julie

[wishlist]

34. He was an absentee Dad, in DC much of time while Cindy, kids elsewhere

Several biographical articles about Cindy mention that she suffered from depression while she was doing most of the childraising alone back home while he was gone from the family in DC or traveling on political trips most of the time after they had kids, not to mention he was not around much to parent during his first marriage either.

[Odious justice]

37. Hearts and minds...

that can be won or lost over this issue are a wash anyway. Anyone that wouldn't vote for McCain because he supports same sex adoption isn't going to vote for Obama. If this were the biggest issue facing out country right now...what a great world it would be.

Maybe he'll tackle flag burning or English only legislation next. This is so reminiscent of Dole in 96 it's unsettling.

[SoCalDem]

39. I think "orphans" just prefer a permanent home with people who love them

and care for them, and are not paid to take them in ..

[JanMichael]

40. You know, the entire GOP (ALL the members) can

go straight to hell as far as I am concerned.

[exothermic]

46. And you guys thought nobody could be more shithouse rat nuts than Dubya.

:shrug:

[treestar]

47. OK, it is better for orphans to stay in the orphanage than to have

two gay parents.

We understand you, Captain Combover!!!!!!!

:sarcasm:

[opihimoimoi]

50. GET THE HOOK ALREADY...the man is DEEMENTED....where are his people to stop him

from saying crazy things?

He thinks its still 1978....his brain did not budge from that era

[ColbertWatcher]

51. So, now the Maverick is embracing his Party's wedge issue tactics?

The hatred from the GOP narrows their world so much, they probably don't know about Gavin Glynn and his family:

Dozens gathered for a memorial service organized by the youngsters’ foster father to honor the memory of Katherine Lee, the mother of 15-year-old twins Shane and Patrick; Emily, 14; and Grace, 12.

(...)

Lee, a 46-year-old employee of a Venice moving and storage company, was stricken with a heart attack at the family’s North Hollywood home. Although the children quickly called 911 and Patrick followed directions from the emergency operator and performed CPR until paramedics arrived, their mother died later at UCLA Medical Center.

A family friend took in the four children until her landlord demanded that they leave by Feb. 1. The eviction order prompted a counselor at Fairfax High School, where Shane and Patrick are students, to launch a frantic campaign to find a place for the four to live before they were swept into the county’s 51,000-child foster-care system.

(...)

Within a few days, the search turned up Glynn, who heard about the children through a gay fathers support group called Pop Luck. Because the 41-year-old television writer was already adopting an 8-year-son, Iby, he was certified as a foster father. The Lee children moved immediately into his five-bedroom West Adams District home.

(...)

Defying all odds, they have remained a family.

The four Lee siblings were together again in the rambling West Adams district house they’ve come to call home. The elder three had come back from college to celebrate the 18th birthday of their youngest sister – and to celebrate their good fortune at being rescued by total strangers when they were orphaned six years ago.

(...)

“We stayed a family. That’s the most important thing. We became a strong family,” said Shane, now 21 and a junior majoring in communications at San Francisco State. “We used to be individuals. Our dad helped our bond as a family grow.”


--http://articles.latimes.com/2002/sep/15/local/me-orphans15">LA Times, 2002 and http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/08/local/me-orphans8">LA Times, 2007

Check out the links, there's plenty more to read about this amazing family.

BTW, fuck McCain and every GOPher whose minds and hearts are too closed by their hatred and ideology.

[fortyfeetunder]

54. A kick for this fine family!!

Great story, I am happy those kids could stay together.

:kick:

[ColbertWatcher]

56. I remember reading about this as it was happening...

...amazing story.

Certainly atypical, but it is the very thing that could happen for more families.

[SammyWinstonJack]

53. What a Moran!

:silly:

[Riddler]

55. So since many orphans had a mommy and a daddy who didn't want them, this idiot's idea is

that's better than 2 mommies or 2 daddies who love them?