I can't believe that there are nuts out there who would actually vote for this freak?

[NNN0LHI]

[saltpoint]

1. There are, but their numbers are dwindling by the hour.

I like an election where we force McCain to fight for his home state.

[salin]

3. on Friday ... listened to two political pundits in Indianapolis - one dem and one repub

even the repub had to concede that it was increasingly looking like Obama very well could carry the state.

[saltpoint]

4. Excellent. The more of that, the better.

Blue is the new red.

[salin]

6. skipping right through purple, no less....

If this is happening here - I would venture to guess that it is happening other places as well.

[saltpoint]

9. Hi, salin. I bet you're right.

I'd love to see as blue an election map behind the anchors on election night as possible.

God, if Obama carries Indiana, it's going to be a landslide.

[salin]

12. That's what I'm saying...

there was a item in the Star about a "republicans for Obama" group that started in Hamilton County (now a noveau riche area north of Indianapolis) - they meet in livingrooms and strategize on how to get the word out - that they can still be repubs and vote repub down ticket, but support Obama. I can go on and on about different signs... like, let's talk about signs - haven't seen a single McCain sign in Indianapolis.... but lots of Obama signs and bumper stickers.

[saltpoint]

15. That's a very good sign. I wish those Hamilton County Republicans

would support our entire down-ballot choices, too, but of course they can't do that and still be Republicans.

Mostly I'd like to see them support Obama and at least some of them vote for Jill Long Thompson to turn that idiot Mitch Daniels out of office. The yuck quotient on Daniels is sky high.

Very encouraging to hear that there are so few McCain signs and stickers in the Indianapolis area.

[hlthe2b]

5. I wouldn't become too confident only re: Arizona

McCain's always had issues in his own state and don't forget, Gore didn't take Tennessee either...

Just sayin.... But, I do like the emerging numbers for Obama ;)

[salin]

2. and that was the BEST that their party could come up with...

[mwb970]

7. Look how many voted for bush.

When a country filled with dumb, superstitious people elects a president, they tend to go for someone dumb and superstitious.

[MiniMe]

19. Ding Ding Ding

That was my response exactly

[KharmaTrain]

8. Cause This Nation Is Full Of Racists....

Almost everyone I've heard whose had a problem with Senator Obama never leaves his skin color too far in the background...unfortunately, and sadly, many people of my own generation who should know better but have been brainwashed throughout their lives...many who have never had much interaction with blacks.

They mask the racism around other "issues"...from Reverend Wright to Flag Pins to "Losing A War" (and when was this war declared and by whom??) to hints that it was "affirmative action at work", "reparations" and the ever famous "he's too unqualified" (inferior). Gramps and his ilk live for this scenario...it's what's built the GOOP for the past 40 years and now it's all they have.

They've lost the battle on economics, national security and the public trust...racism is all they have left and Gramps will play this card every chance he gets...and, yes, people will vote for him because of this.

[salin]

11. the ironic thing is....

the more McCain speaks - the more fence sitters he loses as he touts more of the same. I think some of the fence sitters may respond to the coded words without really knowing why (ala latent racism) - but can be shaken from it ... as it is the type of racism tied more to isolation than the virulent (and sadly still operative) racism to whom the 'code speakers' are trying to reach. I think that McCain himself will sway said fence-sitters - all by himself as he continues to run one of the worst campaigns ever. His decision back in 04 - to try a 'doover' by becoming more bushlike (after Kerry lost) marks his opportunism and poor judgement. Indeed it makes his earlier 'maverick' run questionable (ala "was that also an act?") - as more folks start to pay attention to the race... McCain himself, imo, will push fence sitters off the fence toward Obama. Then only the virulent racists and hardcore wingnuts (often the same, but not mutually exclusive) will remain in his camp.

[KharmaTrain]

16. I Hope You're Right...

I expect I'll get someone calling me out on saying so strongly how I feel that race has become the race...and I not only blame Gramps but his complicit corporate media enablers who have turned whisper campaigns into "news headlines"...yes, using the codespeak that doesn't say things directly...more like the Eric Idle "wink wink, nod nod".

I'm hoping its latent...that if you call it up to people that they will see through this tactic, but I tend to believe that many of these feeling are hardwired inside some and that the suggestion has been planted...and you know the operatives inside Gramps campaign will continue to stoke this...what else do they have?

No question that Gramps is running the most inept campaign I have ever witnessed...he's on 17 sides of almost every issue and now is so desperate for both attention and relevency...and, as you say, the more he does, the deeper he digs his hole. He sold out and hopes his handlers will do "whatever it takes" to win...the usual GOOP playbook.

My gut and the polls tell me this race isn't as close as the corporate media wants us to believe. We'll see if Obama gets a boost from the past week...not only from his successful trip, but also from all the gaffes, flip-flops and overall buffoonery of Gramps.

Great to see you...

:hi:

[NNN0LHI]

14. I just had one heck of an argument over this subject last week with my racist mother

Got pretty ugly. Lets just sat we didn't part on very good terms and leave it at that.

Don

[KharmaTrain]

17. The Truth Hurts...

Don...I'm sorry those feeling come so close to home...I grew up with a father who, despite being very intelligent and compassionate, went off whenever there was a black name in the news...or his hatred for Jesse Jackson. Face it, the US, especially until the 70's, not ony accepted racism, it was a badge for some people to wear. When I hear people my age or older say they never used a racial epitet, I KNOW they're lying...almost ALL of us did. Some of us grew and learned, others still harbor those inert feelings that they can never explain, but it's just there.

Cheers...

[fasttense]

10. Freak is the right word. But I think of him as a creepy old man.

I guess he really reminds me of my "funny" uncle. His sing-song voice, his forced emphasis on certain words, it's all so artificial. It's like he's trying to lure a child into his car.

The man just creeps me out. I can't watch him on the TV without having a flashback to my pervert uncle. Anyone who votes for this creep must be really nuts.

[screembloodymurder]

13. The whole country suffers from PTSD.

First, the chimp and now a clown.

[treestar]

18. They will not pay attention to him

And will miss all this stuff - because they have already made up their minds, because they believe he will pack the Supreme Court with Justices who will decide that Roe v. Wade must be overturned.

I know some of these people. They are one issue scary. As long as every conceived fetus is born, they don't care how many of them die later in imperial wars or whether they grow up in a society where the Bill or Rights is just window dressing, the likes of Scalia and Thomas having found a way to twist logic to allow for none of those freedoms to really happen.

Then there are those who are stupid enough to hear that he is a "war hero" believe it, and believe that's enough for a president.

These individuals don't even watch Faux News. They have such limited imaginations and such limited views of the issues, they really make up their minds based on the above.

[madokie]

20. I think ole mcNut is only being used as a decoy at the present

and he's too stupid to know it so hes going along thinking he has a shot at the white house when in actuality they are going to drop him like a hot potato and pick up someone else right before the convention, is what I think.

[lunatica]

21. Look carefully. He has a comb-over

Which may make me look nasty, except that a comb-over is a symptom of a mental/emotional determination based on a skewed sense of delusional views of perception. Everyone knows what a comb-over looks like, yet men who have a hard time with their self image, and or a hard time facing reality somehow think that no one notices because no one mentions it. It also reminds me of the obvious touchy subject as illustrated by his calling his wife a trollop and the 'c' word because she brought up the subject of his thinning hair.