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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:11 PM
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Court records: Accused shooter threatened to kill wife, himself
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/woman-accused-shooter-hated-anyone-different-him/

The man who is accused of Sunday's church shooting was described today by a long-time acquaintance as a loner who hates "blacks, gays and anyone different from him.''

Why am I not surprised?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:18 PM
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1. Kick, kick, kickarooni....nt
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:20 PM
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2. "anyone different from him"... that would be 99.9999999999% of humanity.
eom
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:02 AM
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42. Thankfully. eom
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:22 PM
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3. The message of the propagandists, espousing hate and intolerance,
will manifest itself in more of these actions as our economy deteriorates. Thanks Rove, Rush, Beck, etc, etc. You must be so proud. :(

My thoughts and prayers for all those affected by such evil...
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:27 PM
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4. Sad, I know people on both sides of the political spectrum who hate anyone different from them. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:02 PM
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16. I bet you do! (nt)
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:08 PM
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22. Do you have a problem? n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:44 PM
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27. No... do you? (nt)
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:03 AM
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47. From my fairly extensive knowledge, very few from the "other side" (ie: the "left/liberal" side)
would go any further than defacing/destroying a yard sign. Actually, I know very few who would even go even that far.

pnorman
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:23 AM
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49. #4 was about those who "hate" anyone different from them, not about violent criminal acts. n/t
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:30 PM
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5. Per article, his ex-wife was a former member of the church. That may also have been a factor in his
selection of that church.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:54 AM
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41. Put money on it. It was a sick revenge for a broken relationship.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:31 PM
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6. He should have been put in jail for threatening his wife with a gun
Why wasn't he?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:33 PM
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7. His ex-wife was in that church. Real interesting stuff in this article!
Adkisson's ex-wife, Liza Alexander of Powell, was a former long-time member of the church, congregant Barbara Kemper said today.

The Adkissones' marriage disintegrated eight years ago after Adkisson had been drinking heavily and then put a gun to Alexander's head, said Carol Smallwood of Alice, Texas.

According to Anderson County Court records, as their marriage went awry, Jim David Adkisson said he had an option.

That choice was to blow his wife's brains out and then do the same to himself…

"He always had the attitude the government was trying to get him,'' Smallwood said. "He disliked blacks, gays, anyone who was a different color or just different from him.

"I think he's got a heart of gold when he's good, but he has so much anger inside of him. He didn't go into that church to harm any children because he loved children.'' (Well, I guess he succeeded in scaring the crap out of the children, anyway.)

"He was just the life of the party,'' Smallwood said, "but then those dark periods would hit and you didn't want to be around him. They would go on for weeks. Everything was negative. You couldn't talk him out of it."

Some of the comments on the article:

“this article speaks volumes. Now we know why he targeted this particular church...he knew about it from his ex wife. I knew there had to be some kind of connection. It's not a church that most of us "know" a lot about.”

“Dark moods that lasted for weeks...
Sounds like he suffered from a pretty nasty bi-polar disorder and never got any help for it.”




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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:39 PM
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8. He had another choice, do it the other way around.
I am sorry for the mentally ill, but really, if you are going to kill someone and then yourself, just do it the other way around. Makes for a lot less trouble.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:48 PM
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11. "life of the party?"
i think i can form a pretty accurate picture of the kind of people would have appreciated such a prick at a party, no matter how chipper and and oh-gosh-just-hi-fucking-larious and swell the motherfucker may have been when he was manic. you don't hate your bad guys only when you're depressed.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:38 PM
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25. "Life of the party" could also mean he drank a lot.

Usually when people say somebody liked to party, they mean that person liked to drink a lot.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:34 PM
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40. Armchair Psychiatrist here thinks it looks a lot like Manic Depression
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:41 PM
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:43 PM
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The fact that you think "white trash" is a group is very telling.
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 12:45 PM by Marrah_G
If you were repeatedly calling any other racial group "trash" you would have been tombstoned by now.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:50 PM
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12. And burying your head in the sand doesn't make that group go away
just read the posts about this guy's beliefs and it's pretty easy to tell he is pure trash. I'm not calling an entire race trash just the actual trash like the piece of shit this thread is about.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:05 PM
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19. The meaning of that slur doesn't change just cause you wish it were so.
"White Trash" means poor, uneducated white people.

Learn.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:59 PM
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30. If that were true you would have just called him trash without the qualifier.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:03 PM
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:29 PM
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37. Pathetic
Hopefully the mods will deal with you
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:13 PM
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:28 PM
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35. Your demonizing of poor white people is no different
than someone else demonizing poor minorities.

:puke:

Your "fuck 'em"? You know that saying about when you point your finger?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:30 PM
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38. It is not a cultural group- your remarks are racist, plain and simple
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:00 PM
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14. Please, take your bigotry elsewhere. It's not welcome here.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:14 PM
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23. Of course, we should not be bigoted against a racist homophobic murderer.

Unbelievable.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:48 PM
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28. But that's not who you attacked.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:50 PM
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29. You didn't use an epithet describing racist homophobic murderers. You said "White Trash".
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 01:50 PM by redqueen
You wouldn't happen to be pretending to miss that very obvious point in the hopees of starting a flame war, would you?

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:25 PM
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33. He just left out "rednecks" which he also included in his previously locked "WT" thread.nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:29 PM
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36. Just more racist, flamey disruption... no pattern though.
Mmhmm.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:04 PM
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17. White trash? Is your hate better than his, do you think?
:puke:

Sickening.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:05 PM
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20. Thank you, redqueen.
His posts are truly sickening.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:43 PM
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10. we need to start an ad blitz to popularize suicide with these nutjobs
Life got you down? feel like shooting up a church or school? write your manifesto and do the honorable thing and give your Beretta a blowjob.

Suicide's for winners
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:56 PM
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13. Amen to that
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 01:47 PM by enki23
Are Liberals ruining your life? Do you have any plans for how you want to shoot up a church, school, workplace, or other gathering of people you hate? Do you feel like killing someone and then committing suicide?

Be a hero. Kill yourself *first*. Jesus gives heroes, and martyrs like you seven hundred brain dead virgins and a free handjob every day for eternity if you don't kill anyone else on your way out. Plus, he promises to make sure to make sure "they" see. He'll "show them" for you, guaranteed. Oh yes, they will pay. Jesus will see to it for you, if only you become a glorious martyr all by your goddamned self.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:00 PM
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15. Or maybe the health care that they truly need.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:06 PM
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21. Hear hear! (nt)
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:04 PM
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18. So he's a Freeper, then?
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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:21 PM
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24. I am sure Rim Job
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 01:26 PM by Steepler0t
Scrubbed freeperville of his username and posts already. Like usual.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 01:43 PM
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26. hates "blacks, gays and anyone different from him.''
Thank God this is coming out, even they're going to try to twist it until it's just some guy mad because he can't find a job. They've known this was a hate crime since the moment it was called in.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:27 PM
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34. So just another rank and file Republican then.
That pretty much describes the average male GOP voter age 25 to 55.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 02:33 PM
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39. Yup.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:05 AM
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43. But, but, but ... his friends say he was 'a very nice guy'!
Suspect 'was a very nice guy' <-- It's on the internets, so it must be true!
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:18 AM
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44. neighbors/friends say this on almost
every guy who ever gets arrested for ANYTHING. It's like media thing 101.

guy gets arrested for garroting puppies, and they'll find some guy to say "he was a very nice guy".

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:20 AM
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45. When I was in journalism school, we were taught to interview a wide range of sources
in order to get a wide range of perspectives. _That's_ a Media 101 thing. :hi:
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:22 AM
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46. right.
but seriously. the point is you can find SOMEBODY to say ANYBODY was a nice guy.

It's meaningless pap.

It's kind of like when the guy gets arrested for homicide, rape, and barratry, and they find the family member who says "he was turning his life around"

that's my other fave. Well, apart from that pesky rape/murder thing, you mean.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:00 AM
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50. Right. I can only remember once when they didn't. Pat Sherrill, who went
postal in a P.O. in the mid-80's--neighbors called him "Crazy Pat."

What do neighbors usually know anyway? Most of the time they barely know the perp.

If you speak to your neighbor on the way to the mailbox in the morning and s/he speaks back and you exchange small talk, that makes them a nice guy? :shrug: I guess it seems that way if that's all the interaction you ever had with them.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:04 AM
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48. He's had a lifetime devoted to hating others, being a jackass, and being violent.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:15 PM
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51. typical conservative, freeper, repug
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