Tom DeLay: God Created America To Propagate Christianity

[madfloridian]

Thanks to PFAW's Right Wing Watch for staying on top of things we might otherwise miss.

"Earlier this month, we noted that former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay had joined one of his "closest friends," Rick Scarborough of Vision America, for Sunday services at Scarborough's Texas church. Now, Vision America has helpfully posted the audio of DeLay’s rambling sermon on its website in which he explains that "America was created by God to spread the Gospel; to spread the word of Jesus Christ and to propagate Christianity":

Link to audio

His words:

I know that America was created by God and it was created by God, not for wealth, personal wealth. It wasn't created by God so that we would have the resources that we now have. It wasn't even created by God to have the freedom that we have now. America was created by God to spread the Gospel; to spread the word of Jesus Christ and to propagate Christianity. And the reason I know that is because my entire political career is exhibited by that. The Lord walked with me …I came to Christ in the first year in Congress and now I've been walking with the Lord he has trained me and showed me why he created this nation: to spread the Gospel

I know the world must love the way we "propagate Christianity".

I remember something from 2007 when his book came out...when he returned to Sugarland. I got the feeling many might be disillusioned with his vision of our country.

Sugarland, TX, population 75, 754....only about 100 greet DeLay's return

Leader Tom DeLay returned to his hometown of Sugar Land today a newly published author. More than 100 supporters applauded DeLay's arrival today for a book signing. His 179-page book, "No Retreat, No Surrender" was released about 10 days ago.

DeLay resigned last year after 22 years in Congress and faces state money laundering and conspiracy charges. He's accused of using an arm of the Republican National Committee to illegally funnel corporate contributions to seven G-O-P state legislative candidates.

The conservative icon told the audience that his decision to leave Congress was "the right decision."

Since then, he said, he has been plotting the Democrats' downfall as an outsider "researching the opposition and researching the needs of the conservative movement."

Picture courtesy of Down With Tyranny

[hatrack]

1. I have two words for the still-indicted former House Majority Leader:

"Fuck" and "you".

[dysfunctional press]

6. will tommy-boy be among the lucky minions that president dumbya graces with a pardon...?

it won't surprise me when it happens.

[KharmaTrain]

53. The Bugman Says He Doesn't Want One

Tweety asked him recently...he claimed he was innocent and didn't need a pardon.

Methinks Ronnie Earl is not taking any chances...why its taken this long to get the trial going.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. May I add 3 words?

in

the

ass

[hyphenate]

31. OT: I LOVE that pic in your sig!

Is it one of your own? Or did you find it online? I think it's one of the best visual comments I've ever seen on the vast differences in the administrations. Is there a bigger copy of it somewhere?

[proud2BlibKansan]

36. It was posted here on DU

I had to reduce it to make it fit in my sig line.

[hobbit709]

2. Tom DeLay was created by God to serve as a bad example.

Geez, what an ego.

[redqueen]

3. Christ tells us to help those less fortunate than ourselves.

Not be corrupt former exterminators who set up a racket in the federal government which is intended solely to further corruption.

"Christians" these days...

[benld74]

4. Best re-read yur hstry books Tommy boy, THAT was not the reason

[Eric J in MN]

15. The history books don't say what God's reason was.

Nor does the Bible say why God created the USA.

Personally, I don't believe in God.

[grantcart]

5. Thereby reversing 3,000 years of biblical history.

Since the Old Testament the prophets have shown us that the only justification for a "state" is to advance Justice.


God has not nor ever claimed to need "States" to advance his Word or message.

[notadmblnd]

7. funny, I don't recall any mention of america in the bible.

:shrug:

[Vickers]

Or of Jesus in the Constitution.

:shrug:

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

37. You need to read between the lines

:eyes: and :sarcasm:

[desktop]

26. Tom's busy writing that part into his next book, the gospel of Tom

Tom has figured out he can can damn well say or do anything and there will be a bunch of rightwing christian wackos willing to buy into it.

[fascisthunter]

8. coming from a convicted criminal

who really needs psychological help, I'd say "wuhteverrr".

Tom Delay... you are the worst Chritianity has to offer, and I'm sure MOST christians would not want to associate their own religion with the likes of you.

[MidwestTransplant]

9. Sure hot tub Tom

[AndyA]

10. Right, Tom. You ass. So I guess if what you say is true, to be a Christian, you:

1. Lie to get what you want.

2. Kill people because they don't believe the same things you do.

3. Steal to make your wealthy friends even wealthier.

Is that what being a "Christian" is all about?

Would Jesus endorse these actions?

I think Christians would rather not be identified with this type of activity. It's not very Christian.

[Popol Vuh]

11. Manifest Destiny Eh Tom?

Guess what? We ten little Indians ain't little anymore.

[ceile]

12. Thanks!

I needed a good laugh!:rofl:

[salguine]

13. I guess the same God told them to kidnap and enslave black people, too.

[Frisbee]

69. And let me tell you...

He's plenty pissed at Lincoln! You think John Wilkes Boothe was an accident? Tom can 'splain it to ya. :sarcasm:

[sinkingfeeling]

14. What a slap to the those who fought and died during our Revolution! It's good to know

that it was 'god' that created the country and not the ideals of Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Franklin, etc.

[marmar]

16. Isn't that giant bullfrog in jail yet?

:freak:

[L. Coyote]

17. And, I suppose, God used his favorite method, Native genocide?? What an idiot!!

A past Republican President said the USA should rule all of America
because of obvious moral superiority as evidenced by whiteness of race.

This is why the Rs are going extinct!!! Time for some old-fashioned political genocide.

[madfloridian]

18. Just a tidbit...DeLay won't seek Bush pardon because it would indicate guilt.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/delays--lawyer-rules-out-seeking-pardon-from-bush-2008-07-22.html

"With Bush’s second term winding down, DeLay is the most prominent politician and Bush ally who could benefit from presidential clemency.

But Richard Cullen, who is representing DeLay in the federal investigation against him, said there should be no question of a pardon.

“I would rule it out,” he said. “No one has suggested that Mr. DeLay is guilty of a crime. He has stated clearly that he has not committed a crime.”

Pardons loom large in the waning months of any presidency, and DeLay’s case could be especially salient because his legal travails have already cost more than a million dollars in legal fees, with no end in sight. At least one other former Republican lawmaker, Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (Calif.), has petitioned for a presidential pardon, according to the Justice Department."

Totally off the topic, but interesting how all these good folks who spout religion just have so many legal problems.

[mitchum]

19. All of that DDT he inhaled gave DeLay severe brain damage

[formercia]

60. More like organophosphate induced dementia.

He's begun to confuse human beings with cockroaches.

It's a good living. Con men find many ways to scam a buck.

[Politicalboi]

21. And God

Created the "InternetS" so DeLay can spew more of his nonsense with many "Tubes".

[spanone]

22. tom delay is lower than pond scum. much lower.

[malaise]

23. He'd better show proof that his god supported the slaughter of the indigenous people

:puke:

[tbyg52]

24. The turnout is even more pitiful than that,

as the Sugar Land "metro" area is at least a quarter of a million (counting Missouri City, Stafford, and Richmond/Rosenberg). And there's no guarantee all 100 were supporters - I thought about going but decided I couldn't stomach it.

I am pleased to report that the Democratic primary turnout in Fort Bend county was about three times the Repub turnout. Cross your fingers for the GE.

[Ilsa]

25. Didn't he try to "propagate" with another woman

some time ago?

I wish someone would find a way to figuratively cut out his tongue.

[kskiska]

27. Why did God create all those other countries?

Why didn't he just create an entirely Christian world? Would've been a whole lot easier.

[Frisbee]

70. It's like...

a big game of Populous to God. I'm expecting him/her/it to get bored with the whole thing anytime now, and just say fuck it, it's more trouble than it's worth. Can't say I'd blame him/her/it. Actually, I'm surprised God hasn't moved on to World of Warcraft yet. :evilgrin:

[The Backlash Cometh]

28. Said by one of the most unChristianlike people that we are ever to know.

Do Christian Repubs have any idea how false they come across when someone like Delay speaks for them?

[Rocknrule]

29. Holy ethnocentrism Batman

[hyphenate]

30. He's a mighty righteous Xtian, isn't he?

Yup, he's right up there with Adolph Hitler, the Puritans, and everyone else who uses Xtianity as an excuse to kill, maim, destroy and torture.

Sorry--I can't go anymore with any of these people who wear their religion as a shield and try to justify every horrendous act they commit as a godly mission.

[a la izquierda]

46. I got in a long debate...

with someone on DU last week. He or she stated that people/groups don't really use religion to justify their violent activities. Religion, according to this person, was simply a cover.

Needless to say, I begged to differ. It went on for awhile.

[Ghost in the Machine]

32. I think the Bug Man has been sniffing too many pesticides.. he's clearly brain damaged

How can people spout fantasy bullshit like this and keep a straight face? It amazes me the things people will attribute to a magical, mythical, cloud dwelling sky fairy...

You'd think that educated adults would have better sense...

[L. Coyote]

33. DeLay can now officially replace Falwell as "America's Most-Hated Christian"

or is that Bush? :rofl:

[Phred42]

34. THe degenerate bastard needs to be in jail

[amb123]

35. DeLay's new words to an old Sunday School song.

Jesus Loves Me, this I know.
For the Bible tells me so.
Kill the Liberals, Muslims and Fags!
Stuff them all in body bags!
Yes, Jesus Loves Me!
Yes, Jesus Hates You!
The Lord wants me to Kill You!
The Bible tells me so!

:sarcasm:

[Solly Mack]

38. He can go fuck himself and see what that propagates

[Deja Q]

39. More like Tom NeedLay, surely?

:yoiks:

[valerief]

40. Every time I flush my turds, I say, "Bye, Tom." Just can't stop. Mr. Hanky looks so much like him. n

[muntrv]

41. Did that same "Christianity" also include enslaving blacks and killing American Indians, Tom?

[tjwash]

43. Well, don't forget manifest destiny, and the taking of most of the west from Catholic Spain / Mexico

nt

[SoCalDem]

42. Total delusion.. how pathetic

and the sad part?? HE does not believe it, he just knows that some of his constituents, DO.. They are the ones who are marking Xes on their calendars..counting down the days until Jeeeeebus comes back for them...

[SammyWinstonJack]

44. Who falls for this horseshit?

:argh:

[baldguy]

45. Jim D. Adkisson

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3689183

[SammyWinstonJack]

48. .

x(

[LittleClarkie]

47. If he wanted to propagate Christianity, shouldn't he have avoided being a crook?

Wouldn't that be step one?

And who's brand of Christianity?

[rasputin1952]

49. Yeah,,,It was real "Christian" to wipe out the indigenous population...

I think the bug man is too close to his chemicals again...x(

[madfloridian]

50. Remember when DeLay told Meredith Vierra all charges had been dropped?

It was so blatant.

Tom DeLay told Meredith Viera that all the charges had been dismissed against him.

..."On Friday, at an all-day symposium at the University of Texas School of Law, many of the participants in the saga will dissect what Bickerstaff says was one of the most extraordinary political events of the past 50 years. The prosecutor and the defense lawyer for DeLay will be there, as well as experts debating the legal significance of DeLay's legacy, grabbing power for his political party while losing grip on his public career. Bickerstaff will discuss his book at an invitation-only lunch.

DeLay, who is awaiting trial on charges that he conspired to launder corporate money into campaign donations, will not attend.

[mhoran]

51. Oh, my

Will it never end? What a buffoon.

[Xipe Totec]

52. exposure to pesticides makes you hear voices, Tom

That's not God speaking, that's DDT.

[barbtries]

54. damn i thought he was in prison

i guess i just wished he was in prison knowing that he ought to be in prison.
these bastards never go away. :cry:

[DailyGrind51]

55. Tom DeLay still "appears" as a phone in guest for Sandy Rios'

"Christian" talk-radio station, (WYLL AM1160) along with Ann Coulter and other hate-purveyors. There really is more RW politics on "Christian" radio than Christianity.

[knitter4democracy]

56. No, that's what He created Russia for. Wait, Italy. No, Israel.

No, no, I've got it wrong, that's what He created England for. Man, I can't keep all these patriarchs and Manifest Destinies and all the messages of God starting some country just to further the faith.

[Hubert Flottz]

57. I wonder how long it will be before the dog across the street tells

Tom to whack somebody?

[bdamomma]

58. this POS Delay is still spewing

geez, go back under your rock huh!!

[Froward69]

59. Delay is diluded.

[leftyladyfrommo]

61. He didn't really say that, did he?

How do these morons get voted in? Is it their expensive suits and politically correct ties?

Pathetic.

[defendandprotect]

62. Religious insanity and looks like he's plotting the next election STEAL . . .

Since then, he said, he has been plotting the Democrats' downfall as an outsider "researching the opposition and researching the needs of the conservative movement."

[Wizard777]

63. The first amendment ONLY protects Christians from persecution.

When I lived down south the first time someone told me this. I :wow: You're kidding right? NOPE! They were dead serious. :wow:

[ProfessorGAC]

64. There Are People Still LIstening To Him?

I would think he would be irrelevant to everyone by now.
The Professor

[sui generis]

65. oh the voices in my head REVEALING things

personally I think it's years of exposure to bug spray. First his hair mutated into play-doe pumper number nine hair, then his brain did.

[RainDog]

66. fucking treasonous theocrat

I'm sick of them. If you claim America was created to spread a religious belief, you are an enemy of the U.S. and the constitution and you should not be allowed to hold office in this nation.

I'm totally serious. I don't give a shit if 99% of your constituency agrees with you. They're also traitors to this nation - and probably sub-literate - and the pastors or priests who say this should be treated like the priests were treated during the French Revolution... that is to say, have their property confiscated and used to help the poor... and when they collude with theocrats or other anti-democratic groups, then they do not deserve to live in this nation. harsh? I'm sick of them and honestly think that their distorted view of this nation is one of the biggest obstacles to real democracy. If that makes me a bad person, then I guess Thomas Paine was a bad person too, and Voltaire. And Jefferson.

As Voltaire noted:

"What can we say to a man who tells you that he would rather obey God than men, and that therefore he is sure to go to heaven for butchering you? Even the law is impotent against these attacks of rage; it is like reading a court decree to a raving maniac. These fellows are certain that the holy spirit with which they are filled is above the law, that their enthusiasm is the only law that they must obey."



"The superstitious man is to the rogue what the slave is to the tyrant."


And sometimes the rogue and the tyrant are the same person.

[BreweryYardRat]

68. Slight disagreement.

I wouldn't call the constituents traitors. Stupid and/or ignorant, but not traitors.

However, the corrupt politicians who spout this crap to make these people vote for them, just so they can get into office and line their pockets -- those politicians are traitors. We agree there.

[longship]

67. Let's see...

Benjamin Franklin... Deist, not Christian.
George Washington... Deist, not Christian.
Thomas Jefferson... Deist, not Christian.
John Adams... Deist, not Christian.
James Madison... Deist, not Christian.
etc.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Sorry Tom. You lose.

[GeorgeGist]

71. As usual Tom tells the truth in reverse ...

Christians created America to propagate their ignorance of God. Quite successfully, I should add.