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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:41 PM
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Aide to Artur Davis D-AL says Rove's written answers not enough...need live, personal testimony
And they expect it this Wednesday.

Rove's Answers Don't Satisfy Lawmakers

A House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday revealed that Rove provided Lamar Smith, (R-Tex.), the ranking Republican on the committee, written responses to questions about the high-profile Siegelman prosecution. Siegelman, a Democrat who served as Alabama governor from 1998 to 2002, was sentenced in June 2007 to 88 months in prison on bribery charges. A federal court of appeals granted Seigelman's release in March, while he appeals.

..."The written answers are not we're looking for," said Sarah-Kate Sullivan, spokeswoman for Rep. Arthur Davis (D-Al.), who has played a leading role in Congress's investigation of the Siegelman prosecution. "We need live, personal testimony."

Sullivan added that the judiciary committee expects Rove to testify this Wednesday. John Conyers, (D-Mi.), the committee chairman, has vowed that the committee may otherwise vote to hold Rove in contempt of Congress.

Rove has said he doesn't have to testify because Bush has granted him executive privilege. But executive privilege is usually asserted to protect candid policy discussion between the president and his closest advisers -- not political advice.


Some brave citizens of the state of Iowa bravely attempted a citizen's arrest of Karl Rove. It ended in their arrests while he went totally free of course.

Iowans attempt to arrest Karl Rove

A news release says a retired minister and three members of the Des Moines Catholic Workers community were cited for trespassing and released.

The four accused Rove of election fraud and conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud the United States in the time before the Iraq war.

The arrest complaint also says they accused Rove of treason, sedition and subversive activities for fraudulent acts leading to the deaths of 300,000 Iraqi civilians and 4,000 U.S. Military personnel.


Rove is doing a paid speaking engagement at the convention of Texas realtors in San Antonio in September. Word is they are not very happy about it, and there are protests planned. Good for them.

Texas Realtors to protest Karl Rove's speech at their convention in San Antonio.

The Daily News of Galveston County, Texas reports that former top Bush aide Karl Rove is scheduled as the keynote speaker at the Texas Realtors Association’s convention in San Antonio this September. When local realtors Karen Derr and Alice Melott heard the news, “they were appalled.”

In fact, Derr, Melott, and other area Realtors have “launched an e-mail campaign to persuade the association’s leaders to strike Rove from the speaker lineup.” “What kind of message are we sending to the public we seek to serve by our very invitation to such an infamous politico?” Melott said in a letter to association leaders. Another associate noted Rove’s inability to meet the Reators’ ethical standards and stated his intention to protest Rove’s presence at the convention:

“Rove definitely does not embody the ethics we want the public to associate with Realtors,” said Bill Hammond, an agent with Karen Derr and Associates Realty.

Hammond said he plans to organize a protest of Rove at the convention. He also said the association’s dues should not be used to pay Rove’s speaking fees, which in some cases are as high as $40,000.


Karl Rove has been called the the architect of "divide and distract" by one of our party leaders.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued the following statement:


"As the architect of the Republican Party's strategy of divide and distract, Karl Rove is the one person most responsible for the anti-immigrant platform being adopted by Congressional Republicans around the country. In 2002 it was African-Americans who were scapegoated with the use of the anger point code word 'quota,' and in 2004 it was gay Americans. Now, ahead of the 2006 elections, it's immigrants. Democrats will not scapegoat any group of people to win elections. It's wrong, and it leaves the American people without the real leadership and comprehensive immigration reform they expect. Americans want change, not more of the same failed policies and divisiveness from Karl Rove and Republicans in Washington.


Fingers crossed Democrats mean what they say and will pursue this snide little man for the harm done to this country.


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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:38 AM
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1. Live, personal 'testimony' would make a conviction of the hateful prick too easy.
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 12:40 AM by vickiss
We all know if his lips are moving; he's lying. And that is nothing but the truth, so help me The Universe.

They need to be haunted where ever they go by thousands or millions of angry citizens until someone does manage a Citizen's Arrest and others without violence but sheer force of size make sure it lasts long enough to get them all on a plane to the Hague.

The reward to the world, to the US, would be immeasurable, hopefully in the foreseeable future the world may forgive those of our country that, with clarity or chosen blindness, supported these war criminals.

*co's Roving Turd needs a good sized pooper scooper to take him to jail, huge POS.

Arrogant rotten fucking prick.

Sorry to spout. :)

Does it seem that the "aides" speak so the dicks can deny? Often lately too.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:58 AM
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2. Your last sentence.... just maybe you are right.
I am afraid to get my hopes up at all.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:21 PM
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4. It feels as if hopes are about all we have at this moment in time and fading quickly, imho.
Mom always said, "Hope for the best, expect the worst." I've tried so hard in my life to NOT always expect the worst. This bunch of war criminals has taken me back to childhood. Argh!

The last year or more it has been aides, aides, aides; even with the campaigns. "My 'aide' said that and I 'agree/disagree' according to mood of the people after the press throws it out there. So much for their "personal responsibility" creed bullshit.

I haven't trusted anything in most of the press/media for years. :puke: The info on psyops I have read and studied for 38 years, since I was 11 or 12, taught me long ago to be extremely suspicious of anything coming from our gov. or the media. My early readings were mostly re: MK-ULTRA, et al, beyond sickening what they have always been willing to do to we the people.

And the madmen have never stopped trying to learn to control us, it has evolved and is now on a much, much larger scale. I can't find a link just now, but I remember reading about something called 'Voice of God', a program they wanted to use in Iraq in the 1990's?. With the holographic capabilities and the audio advances such as tested at the RNC 2004 we may be screwn more than we know:



RNC to Feature Unusual Forms of Sound
Unusual Forms of Sound to Emanate From RNC
By Amanda Onion
Aug. 25, 2004

The NYPD, however, has said they won't be using the $35,000 tool to make people's ears ring, but only as a communication device.

"We're only going to use them for safety announcements and directions," said Paul Browne, a police spokesman.

In tests, police have shown how they can convey orders in a normal voice to someone as far as four blocks away. The sound beam is even equipped with a viewfinder so the operator can precisely target the audio by finding a person in cross hairs. Rather than using pure volume to throw sound far, the LRAD reaches distant ears by focusing the audio beam.

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Already, some Coca-Cola machines in Japan are equipped with the technology so passers-by hear the enticing sound of soda being poured into a glass of ice. And dozens of Safeway supermarkets in California, Colorado and Virginia are testing the technology on patrons waiting in line to pay. Norris' company has also sent out HSS for testing at Wal-Mart and McDonald's. The narrow beams of sound advertise sale items at the store or restaurant and feature promotional material.

Much more and links at:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=99472


Found it!

The Voice of God Weapon Returns
By Sharon Weinberger December 21, 2007

The Voice of God weapon -- a device that projects voices into your head to make you think God is speaking to you -- is the military's equivalent of an urban myth. Meaning, it's mentioned periodically at defense workshops (ironically, I first heard about it at the same defense conference where I first met Noah), and typically someone whispers about it actually being used. Now Steven Corman, writing at the COMOPS journal, describes his own encounter with this urban myth:

snip>

Is there any basis to this technology? Well, Holosonic Research Labs and American Technology Corporation both have versions of directed sound, which can allow a single person to hear a message that others around don't hear. DARPA appears to be working on its own sonic projector. Intriguingly, Strategy Page reports that troops are using the Long Range Acoustic Device as a modified Voice of God weapon:

snip>

And as Corman also notes, CNET recently wrote about an advertisement in New York for A&E's TV show Paranormal State, which uses some of this technology. Beyond directed sound, it's long been known that microwaves at certain frequencies can produce an auditory effect that sounds like it's coming from within someone's head (and there's the nagging question of classified microwave work at Brooks Air Force Base, that the Air Force stubbornly refuses to talk about).

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/12/the-voice-of-go.html

Never read any reports after the RNC 'tests', either. Amazing how things I've read online disappear so often. ABC site gave me an error, "does not exist" when I tried to go back to page one of article, got it hitting my back button.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:47 AM
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3. Kick for Artur Davis.
And fingers crossed that Rove will not be getting away with things.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:41 PM
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5. Update...vote scheduled on Rove contempt tomorrow morning.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002928859

"The House Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote Wednesday on a resolution to hold Karl Rove in contempt of Congress for failing to appear to testify as directed by a subpoena.

Rove’s attorney cited executive privilege when the former top White House adviser declined to appear at a July 10 Judiciary Committee hearing.

Judiciary Chairman John Conyers Jr. , D‑Mich., issued the subpoena on May 22 in a bid to force Rove to testify about allegations that the Justice Department has engaged in politically motivated prosecutions of Democratic officials, including former Alabama Gov. Donald Siegelman.

Rove denied any involvement in the matter in a July 22 letter to Lamar Smith of Texas, the top Republican on the panel. Rove has offered to submit to an off-the-record, untranscribed interview or answer written questions about the Siegelman case, but not about the broader issue of the politicization of the Justice Department. Conyers has rejected that offer.

The practical effect of a contempt resolution, however, is likely to be limited."


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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:48 PM
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6. meaningless, utterly, unless they declare inherent contempt
then, it could get interesting

till they do that, it's all a bunch of disgusting posturing
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