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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:57 AM
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The only way repubs can win election 08 is by stealing it from Obama, & they WILL try
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 05:00 AM by Philosoraptor
Their mean old candidate CAN'T win this election fair and square, so we should prepare ourselves for when the republicans steal it, by vote count cheating or the Supremes.

We must NOT let that happen.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:06 AM
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1. And it starts with the narrative that the election is close.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:11 AM
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2. I know! Drives me nuts when I hear or read of McSame being even within
10 points of Obama.
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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:48 AM
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10. Yes! The "election so close" meme is all over the place
even at the impeachment hearing! Rebnik(sp?), a "professor" against impeachment said that the country is evenly divided and that this election will be so close that the partisanship will continue. Evenly divided? It's 80% to 20%! Cheney and his cabal are getting the talking points out so that they can argue this after the theft. Why do you think that McBush doesn't have to care about what he says or does? He already knows that he'll be president.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:00 AM
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15. That's right. n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:16 AM
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3. They've already started the voter purges
Silly black people in swing states thinking they can vote. What do they think this is, America?

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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:17 AM
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4. Will the U.S. react negatively to a 3rd stolen election? Who knows.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:19 AM
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6. Nothing happend the other times, so why would it now??
and we all still bought $5 gas..

:shrug:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:21 AM
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7. Gore didn't fight hard enough, Kerry didn't fight at all.
I hope at least there's a fight this time.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:58 AM
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14. Kerry was in court for a long time over Ohio but nothing in the press.
I've always wondered about that. It seems like he had next to no support at all from party insiders. Do you remember that? They all rushed onto the talk shows that weekend to talk bs about why we "lost".
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:19 AM
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5. They loathe Mccain, but they love the SCOTUS apppointments and the veto n/t
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:22 AM
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8. True dat.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:34 AM
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9. the state of secrecy and the vote-counting process
seem to be inter-related. We live in a national(homeland) security state and this means all kinds of secrecy laws are designed into it as a functional system. A true democratic system has no secrets to hide. We should be able to live in a society where there are no state secrets to hide.

We also are largely dependent upon computers for counting things. A computer was originally just a very fast adding machine, and this is fine for financial uses, scientific research and many practical affairs. But in the task of counting votes, I think we need to purposely design it as a slow process, and one that should be done manually, with paper.

You really don't need a computer to count a million votes. Sure, if you want to do it in a split second, but why must we demand that?

Democracy must be designed to work in slow-motion, with complete openness. We can use as a model that of Gorbachev's method of "glasnost" and "perestroika". These two Russian keywords helped to begin a political process that ultimately transformed and overhauled the USSR which was politically frozen in a state of secrecy. I think the same kind of process should and must be applied here in America.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:51 AM
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11. There are more than enough ignorant and racists in this country for them to win.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:52 AM
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12. we have no control over the matter
the only reason we had gains last time was that the perverted republican freak stories surfaced before the election and the hackers underestimated the amount of fraud needed. They won't make that mistake agaain. Face it-it's over
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:54 AM
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13. HELP PALAST:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:52 PM
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