Glenn Greenwald: Things I learned today about democracy

[meegbear]

Here's what I learned today about democracy and ideology as a result of my debate with Ed Kilgore and having read the comments to the piece I wrote about targeting Blue Dogs:

• If you believe in the Fourth Amendment, an end to the Iraq War, the rule of law for government and corporate criminals, a ban on torture, Congressional approval before the President can attack Iran, and the preservation of habeas corpus rights, then you're a fringe, dogmatic Far Leftist ideologue, the kind who ruined the Democratic Party in 1968 and wants to do so again.
  
  
• Even though the country is overwhelmingly against the Iraq War and intensely dislikes George Bush, it's necessary for Congressional Democrats to support the Iraq War and accommodate George Bush’s demands so that they can remain popular and be re-elected.
  
  
• If you oppose politicians who support laws that you think are destructive and wrong, then you're an intolerant purist who hates dissent and doesn't believe in democracy.
  
  
• If you try to defeat in elections those politicians who support the things you don't believe in, then you're similar to -- basically the same as -- Nazis and Stalinists, because targeting politicians for electoral defeat who espouse views that you think are wrong is comparable to murdering political dissidents and requiring purity of thought.
  
  
• Recruiting primary challengers to run against Democratic incumbents -- and running ads to inform voters of what their Representatives are doing in Congress -- is anti-democratic in the extreme.
  
  
• Being a Good Democrat means embracing, welcoming and supporting members of Congress who support unnecessary wars, the evisceration of the Fourth Amendment, the abolition of habeas corpus, the use of torture, and protections for lawbreakers -- as long as they place a "D" after their name when voting for those things.
  
  
• Blind, uncritical allegiance to one's Party -- and to all of its officials -- is the defining attribute of a tolerant, enlightened, and savvy progressive, and is the very heart of a healthy democracy. Those who diverge from absolute Party loyalty are Stalinists.
  
  
• Congressional incumbents in the U.S. are re-elected at rates that even Brezhnev-era Politburo officials would envy (Center for Responsive Politics):
  
  
  Those who want to change those statistics by finding ways to undermine and defeat incumbents are disruptive purists who are just like Communists.
  
  
• What destroyed the GOP over the last eight years wasn't their support for radical policies, disastrous wars justified by deceit, pervasive corruption, the destruction of the Constitution, or their extreme mismanagement of the economy. Rather, what destroyed the GOP was simply their demand that their officeholders support the party's core political values. Therefore, those who want to elect Democrats who support the party's value system are indistinguishable from the Republicans of the last eight years.
  
  
• The way for Democrats to be different than the Republicans is to keep supporting and returning to Congress all of the Democratic incumbents who support the GOP's most extreme policies.
  
  
• Between these two options -- (a) dissatisfaction with the status quo combined with no suggestions whatsoever for changing it and (b) dissatisfaction with the status quo combined with imperfect suggestions for changing it -- option (a) is clearly the superior posture, both morally and intellectually.
  
  
• Even though -- as I documented in the very first paragraph of my piece -- Congress has record low disapproval ratings and is held in strong contempt across the entire political spectrum, including overwhelmingly among Democrats, the idea that Congress is doing a bad job and things should be drastically changed is just a fringe view that is only held by dogmatic Leftists in the twisted enclaves of San Francisco, New York and Provincetown.
  
  
• Even though -- as I documented in my very first paragraph -- Congress has record low approval ratings and, rather remarkably, is even more unpopular among Democrats than Republicans, there is nothing unusual about any of this at all. It's just the normal state of things.
  
  
• Democrats in Congress have repeatedly capitulated to the Right and supported extremist and draconian legislation. The solution to this problem is to keep supporting the Democrats who are responsible for that. If you just keep doing the same thing over and over, eventually you'll get different results.
  
  
• An election year is not the time to try to provoke debate about political issues.
  
  
• The 2006 election wasn't the time to reform the Democratic Party because taking control of Congress was too important a goal to jeopardize with fixation on issues.
  
  The 2008 election is not the time to reform the Democratic Party because electing Obama is too important a goal to jeopardize with fixation on issues.
  
  The 2010 election won't be the time to reform the Democratic Party because keeping and expanding the Democratic majority in Congress for Obama will be too important a goal to jeopardize with fixation on issues.
  
  The 2012 election won't be the time to reform the Democratic Party because re-electing Obama will be too important a goal to jeopardize with fixation on issues.
  
  Come back in 2014 with your Purist Fixation on "Issues" -- all this nattering about the Constitution and war and habeas corpus and torture and all of that irritating ideological purist garbage -- and maybe then they'll be some time to worry about all that (though that's doubtful, since there will be a Really Important Midterm Election in 2014 that will determine who will control Congress for Obama's last two years in office, and keeping Democratic control of Congress will almost certainly be too important a goal to jeopardize with some purist fixation on issues.).
  

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

[Jackpine Radical]

1. That Greenwald guy is annoying.

Totally correct, excruciatingly correct. and therefore unbearably annoying.

We're supposed to love and support those fence-sitting centrists because, no matter where the right cheeks of their asses, are, the left cheeks are a little bit on our side of the fence.

[Solly Mack]

2. K&R

[robinlynne]

3. You didn't read all the comments then. Most of us agree with you....... n/t

[Z_I_Peevey]

4. K/R

:kick: