What's your position on exorcisms?

[sniffa]

Just had to switch from the crap show of Verdict while they were covering exorcisms. The one they were showing was quite mild compared to (most?).

Anyhow, do you think these are a good thing, or a form of abuse, ignoring the obvious need for an actual doctor's intervention?

I have my own hard opinion which I won't share yet, so as not to force the direction of this thread (though, I'm sure it's probably obvious).

Be gone demon of depression, begone!

[BlooInBloo]

1. No stupider than the rest of religion.

[awoke_in_2003]

23. Good response

to bad there are DUzy awards until Sept 5

[BlooInBloo]

30. hahaha - no worries - I've gotten enuff duzies - i'm duzied out.

[awoke_in_2003]

32. Yep, you are a regular...

I only have 3, but I think that is because some of my best responses are in threads that don't hang around long.

[BlooInBloo]

33. :) Happens to everyone - you get used to it.

[ColbertWatcher]

2. Modern-day alternative to de-witching. n/t

[panader0]

3. I definately don't believe in demon possession.

I believe that you have free will. Think what you want. If you want to believe that there are little bugs in your head, go for it.
Heaven and hell are on earth.

[RNdaSilva]

41. Definately?

[Phredicles]

4. Well, since congress lacks the backbone to impeach,

maybe exorcism is our next best option?

[Orrex]

5. Exorcise is good for you

Exorcisms are crap, of course. Most of them are wildly abusive of the victim, who more likely than not is already suffering from some severe mental illness or ongoing trauma.

[sniffa]

9. I remember a famous one from a little under 2 decades ago (give or take)

Of the exorcism, where the kid's eyeball was yanked out to release the demon.

:eyes:

[Orrex]

10. Oh. Well, I'm sure that it seemed reasonable at the time.

I've read several recently in which the victims were suffocated or drowned or the like. It's a horrible business, and anyone who attempts an exorcism should, at the very least, be committed or jailed.

[davekriss]

6. Sideways

Definately sideways.

[valerief]

7. I prefer a good physic, myself. nt

[DailyGrind51]

8. After the Bush crowd leaves, I think the White House will need one,

along with a good fumigating!:evilgrin:

[Lil Missy]

11. I saw a segment on that tonight on Dan Abraham's show.

It's a form of abuse. Sanctioned religious snake oil.

[panader0]

12. Why, the missionary position of course.

[elocs]

13. I must admit, I've seen them and they seem believable.

Yes, I have personally witness the casting out of demons in a religious ceremony and I am betting that the overwhelming majority here can not say that. The participants did so of their own free will and from what i saw most felt better afterwards. I have heard language that I could not believe come out of the mouths of people I knew and in a voice I did not recognize. I have also seen 6 grown men have to hold down on relatively small sized guy and they had trouble doing it as he threatened to kill them all. I knew somebody who said that he witnessed somebody levitate during an exorcism, and I had no reason to disbelieve him. I realize it is popular and great sport here to laugh at and mock religion, particularly Christianity and I am no longer a practicing Christian myself, but I have seen these things, for good, bad, or otherwise.

[awoke_in_2003]

24. ...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m-7S0jeR0Yo

[nevergiveup]

14. I am in favor of a good exorcism

just as I am in favor of a good orgasm but I don't think anything inducing the conditions for either should be covered by insurance.

[MuseRider]

15. Flat on my back.

I have found that sitting up leaves me feeling slightly nauseous.

[LostInAnomie]

16. Two different kinds of people get exorcisms.

One type are people that need serious psychological help. They have some type of pathology that is making them behave in a bizarre way, and they have led themselves to believe that demons are the cause, or they are unfortunate enough to be in the care of a fanatical family member that believe faith is the answer instead of medical treatment.

The second type are religious fanatics that use "demons" as a scapegoat for their own sinful behavior. They have their preacher lay hands on them, roll around like idiots, act "healed", and them the rest of their church (that have probably pulled the same scam a dozen times themselves) welcome them back with open arms and praise Jee-Zus!

Either way, it's a load of shit. In one case though there actually is a problem.

[sniffa]

22. Good post

:thumbsup:

[Blue Diadem]

45. On your first one, sometimes it's innocent children

who need help and their parents resort to blaming demons. Kids have died from exorcisms.

[emilyg]

17. I'd like to try it on certain DU members.

[NYC_SKP]

29. I agree with you, emilyg...

Probably different members, your choices and mine, but nonetheless, let's take our unity as we find it!

:toast:

[frylock]

18. the power of crap compels you

[AnnieBW]

19. When in doubt, call the Winchester Brothers

They get the tough demons out!

[orleans]

20. i try not to have more than one or two good ones a year.

anything more really wears me down.

[NNN0LHI]

21. Oh I am all for them. Actually giddy

As long as the play that tubular bells music while performing them.

Don

[Historic NY]

27. scarey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewu1laA2nmI

[tazkcmo]

25. Only for my Ex. N/T

[AlCzervik]

26. before seeing the movie "The exorcism of emily rose" i didn't think too much about

it, then i watched it and was fucking horrified at the barbarity of and the unwillingness to treat her mental illness.

[notadmblnd]

28. superstition and ignotance

need I say more?

[RNdaSilva]

40. Ignotance?

[notadmblnd]

44. The "R" is right next to the "T"

what can I say?:shrug:

[TexasObserver]

31. They should only be used if the RACK doesn't work.

Dousing might work, too.

[nam78_two]

34. Well I never gave it a thought beyond that it is some sort of crazy superstition

Are there diverse opinions on this among educated people? You do mean the sort of thing where you "exorcise" a "demon" or something? Or is there some other type of exorcism-like some weird technique used by a psychologist or something? If so I have never heard of it.

[GoneOffShore]

35. They should be available to anyone who wants one!!

I'm pro exorcism!

:sarcasm:

[Withywindle]

36. Well, pretty soon we'll all get to a point where even those few of us who have insurance

will find the companies making excuses not to cover our mental health meds anymore, so a lot of folks who look down on it now will find themselves with no alternative.


Fuck, I'd try it. Not the Christian kind, though. I want a shaman in a yurt under the stars with good herbs.

[MichaelHarris]

37. I'm ok with it

as long as they leave out the pea soup

[Swamp Rat]

38. Beyond the range of the green pea soup

:puke:

:D

[comtec]

39. In the GD list on the front page this showed up or me just UNDER Woman gives birth to 18th kid

and I thought after seeing this title... Good Idea!
Exercise that breeder, christ on a crutch!!!

I thin exorcism is, on the whole, bullshit!

I'm not saying there aren't, possibly actual cases, but you're talking about ... what... 1 or 2 per YEAR!?
and the inquisitional squad from the Vatican deals with those (fire purifies everything)

[eridani]

42. Well, if you fall behind on payments to your exorcist--

--you just might get repossesed! (Sorry. Old, but I couldn't help myself. Really.)

[melm00se]

43. the mind

has great restorative powers and if the "procedure" works who cares?