Charles Manson never actually murdered anyone, & neither did dick cheney.

[Philosoraptor]

Manson, who still sits in jail and will never get out, never actually committed murder, but his crime was somehow getting others to murder.

Now dick cheney never actually murdered anyone either, yet a million Iraqis are now dead, and over 4000 G.I.'s are dead, and over 80,000 grievously wounded, all by dick's decree, and dick has even made billions of dollars in profits from all this human misery, yet, he is a free man.

This world ain't fair I tell ya.

[KharmaTrain]

1. So Who Is Cheney's Susan Atkins?

Yes, Manson didn't pull the trigger and, if you read Helter Skelter by Bugliosi, you see how tough it was for him to nail Manson in the beginning. It wasn't until Watkins opened up that they had the goods to go after Charlie. So who would drop the dime on Crashcart?

[Philosoraptor]

2. condi

[KharmaTrain]

3. Nah...Condi's Silence Is Golden

After 1/20/09, she'll take a world cruise on the U.S.S. Rice (owned by Chevron), sit on a dozen corporate boards and get an "honorary" position somewhere (like John Yu)...she'll cash in and spend the rest of her life stocking up on shoes and revising history. The lady has shown how morally bankrupt she is...a toady for this criminal enterprise. Her speaking out would indict her as well as Crashcart. But then maybe we can pump a few drinks in her and loosen her up. :rofl:

[Philosoraptor]

4. She's the cutest one out of all the neo con Nazis.

[KharmaTrain]

9. I Kinda Like Monica Goodling...

She sure looked "perky" :rofl:

What I expect is that there will be a bunch of regime underling who will be selling their story next year. McClelland was just a warm-up. Wanna bet there are many inside the regime who are seeing how much money he's made and think they've got a "million dollar" story to sell as well. Maybe then the "cone of silence" will fall.

[lame54]

5. Charles Manson never shot anybody in the face

[Philosoraptor]

6. & he's never profited from his murders.

[RandomKoolzip]

12. (Possibly) Untrue.

According to Susan Atkins and some other insiders, Manson was responsible for personally killing Shorty Shea; additionally, there have been claims that Manson himself killed a young man and a young woman in the months between the Hinman murder and the capture of the Family.

Of course, memory is a slippery thing, especially if it's been clouded by brainwashing, acid, and the extreme desert heat. The recollections of the members of the Family aren't always 100% accurate, but there's enough info there to at least be suspicious about Manson personally committing murder (of someone other than the LaBiancas and/or anyone in the Tate/Polanski house).

[lame54]

15. interesting...

I've never heard any of that - but the guy is a psycho - very possibly true

[Virginia Dare]

7. That we know of anyway....n/t

[Philosoraptor]

8. Know what I mean know what I mean? Say no more say no more anthrax

[Thothmes]

10. I thought he same think about

Lyndon Baines Johnson. Accept his kill rate was significatly higher. You are correct its not fair

[Riddler]

11. Bugliosi more than adequately covers this point in his excellent book,

The Prosecution of George W. Bush....a recommended "must read" for anyone sick of the scumbags running this country.

[DailyGrind51]

13. Great point, thank you!

Manson's criminal acts were through others, just like Cheney's. Why is one considered culpable but not the other?

[lonestarnot]

14. Nice observation. A Red Rummy, he never tortured anyone either, well if you don't

count looking at or listening to him.

[KG]

16. steal a little and they'll call you a thief, steal alot and they'll make you a king

apparently, the same goes for murder.