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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:56 PM
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Alcohol Legalization Vote Results from Asheboro NC (and church's response)!!!!!!
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 06:06 PM by musicblind
Yesterday I posted a message begging people to vote YES to legalize Alcohol in Asheboro North Carolina. (The largest city in NC not permitting alcohol sales)

The churches fought hard against this with airplanes flying over over the city, large cranes on the highway holding signs. TONS of money thrown into it. The works.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3696365&mesg_id=3696365


NOW!!! The votes are IN! And we won! For the first time in 53 years alcoholic beverages are LEGAL in my home city! I am literally floored. I did not believe we stood a chance!

Here is from front page of Asheboro's newspaper The Courier Tribune:

The atmosphere at the gathering for the Citizens for a Safe and Healthy Asheboro held at First Baptist Church on Church Street was much more sedate.

“This was the battle, not the war,” he said. “This outcome illustrates our war with our culture that is so saturated, particularly with alcohol.”

Rogers also urged those in attendance to consider the possibilities to control how the alcohol issue is managed in Asheboro going forward. He said it will be very important to ensure that Christians sit on the new local ABC board to control the issue and any discretionary money.

“It is not a dichotomy to be on the board,” he said, adding that is where Christians can have an impact.


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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:58 PM
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1. Congrats
but I think you mean the largest city which doesn't permit alcohol sales.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:07 PM
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6. my apologies! corrected that! wow what a misstatement
:blush:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:02 PM
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2. What a telling statement. "illustrates our war with our culture "
And that is exactly how they perceive it.



Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!

Refrain

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.

At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.

Refrain

Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.

Refrain

What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.

Refrain

Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.

Refrain

Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honor unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.

Refrain

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fl410 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:02 PM
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3. That's great...but how is Asheboro bigger than Charlotte?
Did you mean "largest city in NC with prohibition"?
:D
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:08 PM
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7. yes lol
thanks, sorry, horrible typo! I so meant to continue that scentence! lol. Our 22,000 people don't compare to Charlottes 600,000 plus.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:02 PM
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4. so now the xtians will try to subvert democracy...
...by undermining the regulatory board. I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! :rofl:
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:05 PM
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5. drink up?
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:12 PM
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8. I'm Christian
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 06:12 PM by musicblind
and do not actually drink alcohol all that often one way or the other, but I voted for this because it should be someone's right to drink if they want. PLUS this it will help the economy so much if we can sell alcohol. We have a very large zoo here in Asheboro and a mall. We have a lot of potential to grow.

I do not, however, like the idea of Christians (or buddhist, muslims, atheists, judisim, wiccans, etc) trying to push their ideas on the general public.

For example. If you believe it is a sin to drink then DO NOT DRINK! But it is everyone's right to exercise their free will to do as THEY BELIEVE is best. It's their lives, not yours. Don't legislate your personal moral opinions. Do what is best for everyone.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:43 PM
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12. What if you don't think it's a sin to drink but you don't want to drink?
You know, if you don't believe in sin. What to do? What to do?
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:22 PM
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9. I;m not a christian but I also don't drink. I wonder which way they think I should have
voted in this. :)
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:22 PM
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10. In the small city of Florida where I live...
you can't buy beer on Sunday. (It's a very religious area.)

The result is that I buy lots of beer on Saturday, to be safe, whether I need it or not. In the end, the result is that I drink more beer than I would if I could buy it on Sunday.

This makes me resent Churches interfering with my lifestyle and also increases my waist line.

I point out to the local Christians that Christ's first miracle was to turn wine into water for a wedding calibration when the party goers consumed all the available wine.

1 On the third day there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 2 Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to him, "They have no wine." 4 And Jesus said to her, "Woman, what concern is that to you and to me? My hour has not yet come." 5 His mother said to the servants, "Do whatever he tells you."

6 Now standing there were six stone water jars for the Jewish rites of purification, each holding twenty or thirty gallons. 7 Jesus said to them, "Fill the jars with water." And they filled them up to the brim. 8 He said to them, "Now draw some out, and take it to the chief steward." So they took it. 9 When the steward tasted the water that had become wine, and did not know where it came from (though the servants who had drawn the water knew), the steward called the bridegroom 10 and said to him, "Everyone serves the good wine first, and then the inferior wine after the guests have become drunk. But you have kept the good wine until now." 11 Jesus did this, the first of his signs, in Cana of Galilee, and revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.

http://www.godweb.org/WRwaterintowine.htm

Now no matter how you cut it, 120 to 180 gallons of wine plus what was originally available is a hell of a lot of booze.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:33 PM
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11. They should just pray really hard that Jesus turns the wine back into water. n/t
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:45 PM
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13. Congrats!
More freedom is good.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:57 PM
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14. I'd rather be around people..
... who are saturated with alcohol than be around people who are saturated with fake ass Jesus.

(Not dissing Jesus, dissing those who ignore most of his message in favor of pushing their own agenda using his name)
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