Plain Dealer's Repuke LTTE's make me SICK!!! Or, "The Media is a Hell of a Drug".

[HughBeaumont]

I mean, is this shameless right wing rag simply not caring what anyone says about bias that they're just printing letter after letter lately from brain-stem void dopes who think they're entitled to their own facts even if it means sending this country on a rocket ride to the abyss?

Among some of the gems from the past two weeks, with of course NO rebuttals printed from the ones who really know what's going on:

There is no recession. There is no economic slowdown. What is going on is a correction.

First, there are plenty of well-paying jobs if you have the education. The days of being in a union and making money you don't deserve are gone. This is a correction for the union jobs of the '50s, '60s and '70s, in which dolts made money they did not deserve. - Vincent Radzimski, North Olmsted

Ah. I get it. The unions are at fault. Swift. And we have tons of jobs. Never mind the fact that we've had 7 straight months of job losses and a near 6% "unemployment rate" (it's in quotes because it'd be more like 9% if it was measured correctly). Or that you're a massive tool.

Or this winner. Dude. Are we STILL using the "socialist" canard? In 2008???:

As a World War II veteran, I shudder to think that Barack Obama could be come the next president. Inexperienced as he is, he tells us that a general, David Petraeus, is still "off base" in his assessment of the war in Iraq and the manner in which it should be conducted.

Obama is unwilling to concede that he and his fellow Democrats were wrong when telling us that President Bush and our allies were in error when going after the despot Saddam Hussein and that the surge has not been worthwhile. Rather, he argues that we should still retreat while winning and let the Iraqi people suffer the consequences. He tells us that by giving up on the war, we can use the money to fund his proposed socialist programs. - George Homer, Avon

More West Side Winners who want the country to go to hell:

Two years ago, Democrats took over Congress with great promises, pri marily concerning Iraq. Since then we have had a banking crisis, a housing crisis, the airlines are in a mess, gas prices are sky-high, inflation has risen after being low for years and we're still in Iraq. I have seen no meaningful legislation passed by them that has helped anything. I can only imagine what further chaos would develop if we give them a Democrat for president. I think I'll take my chances with a Republican. - Jean Kumler, Rocky River

Right, a Democratic congress two years in power is to blame for the actions of nearly 28 years of uninterrupted Republican rule. Astounding. Absolutely Amazing and Astounding. But go ahead and keep building that bridge of straw. See if you can cross it when you're done.

While Sen. Barack Obama's choreographed photo op hasn't quite duped the masses, the enamored "sheep" seem more than happy to tap another keg of Kool-Aid.

Rejecting all ethics, the "drones" of the media have - no surprise - also joined the cheerleading squad of the radical left. They claim to remain unbiased, but 71 percent polled seem to reflect a reality that indicates otherwise.

In a year that was the Democrats' to lose, why is it so necessary for the media to force-feed an inexperienced first-term senator down the throats of the American population and elevate him to a level of messianic proportions? - Alexander Djordjevich, North Royalton

OMFG with this "radical left" nonsense!!!!! Why are policies geared towards pleasing one percent of the population (while the rest of it gets ruined) perfectly OK, but even inject proposals designed to make genuine repairs without smokescreen tactics and NOOO, can't have that! Watch what you say, they'll be calling you a RADICAL . . . a LIBERAL!! DUMBass.

I have a different perspective. If you owned a business and two candidates applied for a job, would you hire based on skin color or would experience and knowledge of how to perform the job duties be the deciding factors?

Don't misunderstand me: I comprehend the historical nature of this election, but is "making history" a good enough reason to vote someone into the highest of elected offices?

Barack Obama served in the Illinois statehouse and hasn't yet finished his first term in the Senate. John McCain has four years in the House, 22 years in the Senate and 20 years of distinguished service in the military. An election of this magnitude should center on experience, accomplishments and qualifications. - Steven M. Backiel, Painesville

An election of this magnitude should be about who's RIGHT for America. YOUR candidates got us into the mess we're in now. YOUR way LOST. It's time to switch direction. I don't care whether McClown served five decades in the Senate: the facts remain that he's a borderline senile, pro-free-trade, pro-war, pro-Big Business, pro-Big Oil idiot who would continue Bewsh's disastrous policies until this country burned to an ashen crisp.

Iwould like to congratulate Kevin O'Brien (Kevin O'Brien is the most insufferable of the PD's GOP tools) for his column "Vying to carry Obama's baggage."

O'Brien is one of the few journalists who sees the adoration of Sen. Barack Obama by the vast majority of both print and electronic media as detrimental to the election process. He is one of the few smart enough to question the New York Times. He points out Obama's ridiculous position that the surge in Iraq was all wrong. Kevin clearly translates Obama's comments to mean "winning me the presidency was more important than winning in Iraq." - Victor Soyka, Columbia Station

There is no winning in Iraq. There is no winning in Iraq. That tank has been blown to bits, Kreskin.

In the immortal words of Charlie Brown: I can't stand it. I just can't STAND it.

Lest anyone think this will be a landslide, THIS is who we're up against: from the white, well-to-do suburbanites to the poor 19%ers who think that Bewsh is still doing a great job and see no reason for this country to break from that glorious path, they're STILL out in full force.

This is their logic: Our country is in deep shit, but I hate Democrats and I don't really have any logical reasoning behind the hatred, I just DO. So I'm going to continue voting for the great LEADERS that stand for the white ma . . . er . . . THIS country! Yeah, that's what I meant to say . . . you don't have that on tape, do you?

The Media is a Hell of a Drug.

[Berry Cool]

1. I don't read the Plain Dealer anymore.

I find it to be a great burden off my mind.

[fudge stripe cookays]

2. I got a damned forward from a 2nd cousin the other day...

I'd asked her repeatedly not to forward me political stuff, that we were not in the same ballpark. I'm trying to unite a family that's been separated by generation, NOT divide it!

Here's what I got:
"We must get these kinds of facts out to the public; the news media will not do so~!!!

John McCain's Sons

Talk about putting your most valuable where your mouth is! Apparently this was not "newsworthy" enough for the media to comment about. Can either of the other presidential candidates truthfully come close to this? ... Just a question for each of us to seek an answer, and not a statement.

You see...character is what's shown when the public is not looking. There were no cameras or press invited to what you are about to read about, and the story comes from one person in New Hampshire.

One evening last July, Senator John McCain of Arizona arrived at the New Hampshire home of Erin Flanagan for sandwiches, chocolate-chip cookies and a heartfelt talk about Iraq . They had met at a presidential debate, when she asked the candidates what they would do to bring home American soldiers - - soldiers like her brother, who had been killed in action a few months earlier.

Mr. McCain did not bring cameras or press. Instead, he brought his youngest son, James McCain, 19, then a private first class in the Marine Corps about to leave for Iraq . Father and son sat down to hear more about Ms. Flanagan's brother Michael Cleary, a 24-year-old Army First Lieutenant killed by an ambush ... a roadside bomb.

No one mentioned the obvious: In just days, Jim my McCain could face similar perils. 'I can't imagine what it must have been like for them as they were coming to meet with a family that ......' Ms. Flanagan recalled, choking up. 'We lost a dear one,' she finished.

Mr. McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee, has staked his candidacy on the promise that American troops can bring stability to Iraq . What he almost never says is that one of them is his own son, who spent seven months patrolling Anbar Province and learned of his father's New Hampshire victory in January while he was digging a stuck military vehicle out of the mud.

Two of Jim my's three older brothers went into the military. Doug McCain, 48, was a Navy pilot. Jack McCain, 21, is to graduate from the Naval Academy next year, raising the chances that his father, if elected, could become the first president since Dwight D. Eisenhower with a son at war.

I chose to share this with those who I believe will pass it on, to others who will pass it on. We hear so much inflated trash out there. How about a simple act of kindness ... and dedication to others placed above oneself?

Has anybody heard if Barack Hussein Obama has served in The American Armed Services?
This is for all you Barack voters.
From Barack's book, Audacity of Hope:
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
HE DID NOT SAY STAND WITH AMERICANS!!!!!

:eyes:

So I sent this:
"Any soldier can tell you that the main thing that any man in combat thinks of is coming home. According to McCain, we're going to keep up this bullshit war for 100 years. Our economy is in the shitter. We have a several TRILLION dollar debt from this war.

And he wants to keep people there. Public opinion has shifted. People want this war to END. They don't care that he was held prisoner. It doesn't seem to have changed his mind much about it. Oh yeah...he was AGAINST torture before he was for it. And I will NEVER as a woman, lower myself to vote for someone who calls his wife a cunt.
http://www.drudge.com/news/106692/author-mccain-called-wife-cunt-trollop

I've asked you not to send me this stuff. But if you do, I WILL refute it. Neoconservatives are going the way of the dinosaur. But by all means, vote Republican and continue to pay $4.00 or more for gas.

Response:
Your Bullshit isn't worth listening to, I am blocking you and don't want to hear from such a narrow minded person again, I don't even think of you as a relative just a conceded snot . spoiled Rotten.

And again (Don't know if she got it or not):

"When I ask you not to send me something and you continue to do it, don't complain when I respond to what I consider being lectured to. All you had to do was remove me from your e-mail list and you did not. There are very few people left in America that are buying the Republican line of crap anymore, including ex members of the administration. By the way, the word is "conceited." Which I am not. I still think of you as a relative, just an extremely misguided one."

No one can reach these people. No one.

[HughBeaumont]

3. Two things -

A. The Barack quote is FALSE, and it's part of a larger e-mail full of out-of-context to flat-out re-worded quotes from Barack's books to paint him into a racist and a muslim sympathizer. Snopes is this woman's undoing:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

B. I seriously believe that with these people, they're an inappropriate choice of words short of flat out admitting "I'm not voting for him because he's black and that's that." Read the names of the cities and names of the entitled-to-their-own-facts jokers who write these these letters. Most often is the case that they're from one-race suburbs and they live there for a reason. The unfamiliar scares them. They choose to be isolated from what's really going on.

Finfann had a great post as to why we're not out in the streets, and he, like me, uses some LTTEs to prove his point:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=3413723#3414049

[fudge stripe cookays]

4. Yep...

I knew the Obama quote had to be false, but regrettably have not read the book. At the time I looked for the e-mail, it wasn't there yet. Glad to see it's been added.

She's a fucking idiot hick; grew up in ND farmland (this is not a diss on North Dakotans-- just the limited perspective of someone who has almost never traveled outside a several hundred mile area of right wingers), and now lives near Spokane, WA. Surprised? The e-mail was forwarded to her from another ND person who now lives in Idaho. The difference being that the ID person is in her 80s, has always been nothing but nice to me, and has never been crass enough to bring up politics around me.

Her niece however, is a different story. And now she has probably destroyed my relationship with Grace because she's probably been telling her all kinds of nasty stuff about me that is only partially true, based on the e-mail.

:eyes:

[Bill McBlueState]

5. I can't stomach the whole thing, but my first comment is,

Who the hell is Vincent Radzimski that he thinks he gets to decide how much money anyone deserves to make? Must be a big fan of Stalin.

[HughBeaumont]

6. Yeah, those union jobs of the 50s, 60s and 70s . . .

. . . you know, those jobs that people usually KEPT and got to STAY at (rather than play race-to-the-bottom employment musical chairs like we do today regardless of education levels), had great benefits and pension plans, paid over and double over time and allowed a semi-comfortable retirement after 30 or so years. Gee, thank GOD that era's no longer around :sarcasm:

Also, the 50s through the 70s was the last time American workers, in real dollars, saw an upward movement in pay. On average, the American workers now make 1% LESS in inflation-adjusted dollars than they did in 1979.