ATTN: Possible cheating in Women's Gymnastics scoring (update: or not)

[crimsonblue]

I'm watching the Women's gymnastic qualifying on NBC, and the Chinese team is currently up. I noticed a discrepency in the scoring for Cheng Fei for the Vault Competition. The score that flashed on TV and that the announcers gave was 15.912. On the Olympics website, the scoring was 16.150. This increase in score gave Fei the top score in the event. Who, might you ask, came in second? Not to mention that Fei did not have a clean landing. Shawn Johnson with a score of 16.000 . Is this an accidental error or rightful rescore, or was this blatant score switching by the Chinese? I might add that the score on the NBC website agrees with the score flashed on TV. Why are the NBC and China website scores in disagreement????

below is the scores

---------------TV / NBC website score----------- Official Beijing Olympics website score
Cheng Fei------------ 15.912 ---------------------------------- 16.150


links for the NBC and Beijing websites:
NBC Olympics website
Official Olympics website

UPDATE: ANOTHER DISCREPENCY--- Li Shanshan score a 16.125(according to the China site) but scored a 16.025 according to the NBC site.

Update: I'm stupid, I think. They only showed the second of Cheng Fei's vaults on NBC, and I guess she did get a 16.150 in her first vault (which wasn't aired on TV).

[Mojambo]

1. Damn that John Edwards! n/t

[renie408]

6. ROFL!! n/t

[BlooInBloo]

11. Leave John Edwards alone! He's a PERSON damn you!

:rofl:

[seabeyond]

2. hubby really thought so with the boxing too. if nothing else just horrible scoring

he is a huge boxing fan and knows it well. says it was really bad. but then again it has always been like this with sports that get scored. why i always like my sport, swimming where there is a touch pad computerized to show exactly.

[crimsonblue]

3. MORE cheating

I found another discrepency, this time with Li Shanshan's score on Beam. NBC --- 16.025 Beijing --- 16.125

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. I didn't check the men's scores liek that, but I did think that Sasha got ripped off for

his pommel horse score. In the 15 range whereas comparable Chinese routines were 16s.

[madaboutharry]

4. I don't think all of the girls on the chinese team are

really 16 years old.

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. I thought that 14 was the cut-off?

[renie408]

12. I dunno, but my husband and I have been commenting the whole time on how young they look

I just figured out that they had to be a certain age to compete. Some of those girls are extremely immature looking. And it isn't just that 'gymnast-y' thing either.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Just read that they do have to be 16, and that there is a rumor that at least 3 are more like 14

[Xenotime]

19. competition age is 16. Some of these chinese "women" look like 12

[madaboutharry]

21. You might be correct,

But I actually think some may be younger than 14. Look at their faces.

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. Turns out 16 is the cut-off, but rumor has it some of them may only be 14

[renie408]

9. Oh YA THINK?? They don't look like they are TEN years old. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Wouldn't that just be crazy, though? I mean it's so easily discovered just the

way you guys caught it.

[BlooInBloo]

8. Everytime there's a gymnastics meet, there are allegations of score-fixing.

[crimsonblue]

15. I'm not talking about score fixing

I'm talking about sheer score LYING. As reported on TV and the NBC olympics site, Fei got .303 "more" points on the official Chinese Olympics site.

[BlooInBloo]

18. Ah. I see the difference. Thanks.

[depakid]

16. Ice dancing's even worse

A lot of the scoring is subjective- hence politics and favoritism easily come into play.

[LostinVA]

25. And full of real life soap opera drama!

What they did to Torvil and Dean a few years ago was disgusting.

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. I hear that. Cheerleading is partly subjective so there's always a bit of

"What the heck happened there?" when teams get their scores and placements. We beat a team that aimed for more difficult stunts and whatnot, but we had more originality and fewer problems so we won our division. The other guys were actually pretty mad. :(

[babylonsister]

13. The Americans are just starting where I am.

:shrug:

[Xenotime]

20. American's can't get their shit together..

They are supposed to have 5 and only 4 are competing. Another USA screw up.

[babylonsister]

31. No, one of the girls got hurt. Stuff happens. nt

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Oh, no! :^( Who was it? (Not watching right now. Letting TiVo get it for me)

[babylonsister]

34. Sam Pettich/Pettick? Something like that. nt

[LostinVA]

14. Possible cheating in a women's single sculls heat yesterday

They ana't keep the transmitter on their shell, but the Belarusian rower did -- it was noted it was a rule infraction and she should be DQed. She wasn't. She's the top rower in teh single sculls.

[RB TexLa]

17. Well as a country we Americans aren't known for math when compared to the rest of the world.

could just be stupidity.

[malaise]

22. And since the official Beijing website is run by the IOC

I am left with deciding who is more likely to cheat - the criminal IOC or the criminal NBC.

What a dilemma!

[LostinVA]

26. The IOC -- they are criminal, sexist, AND arrogant beyond belief

[malaise]

33. I know

If you have doubts check Andrew Jennings article on Andre Guelfi.

http://www.transparencyinsport.org/

That said GENBC is no different - forget not they have the criminals' broadcast rights, and are making lots of money from wars.

[GreenPartyVoter]

27. You have a point there

[Xenotime]

28. Americans keep landing out of bounds where the chinese didn't

This team is starting to unravel

[crimsonblue]

29. don't worry...

we're in good shape.

[babylonsister]

35. Now the dim one is giving advice to the next prez on diplomacy?

[crimsonblue]

36. so much for not using international events for personal political gain

Why the fuck did Costas toss him a softball?

[babylonsister]

37. Why the fuck is Costas talking to him at all? This is ruining my viewing

of my favorite sport in the Olympics. :grr:

I cannot stand this POS!

[Retrograde]

38. I'm shocked! Shocked!

Next you'll be telling me the judging in judged events isn't scrupulously objective.

[2Design]

39. translation from chinese numbers to american dollars - dollars are dn - not a problem n/t