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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:38 PM
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“'Honor' killing comes to the US”, Boston Globe
'Honor' killing comes to the US
NO ONE knows just how many Muslim girls and women are murdered each year in the name of family "honor," since their deaths frequently go unreported and unpunished. The cases that do come to light are ghastly. "Women and young girls are set ablaze, strangled, shot at, clubbed, stabbed, tortured, axed, or stoned to death," a United Nations report noted in 2004. "Their bodies are found mutilated with their throat slit, or they are chopped into pieces and thrown in a ditch."

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In the Atlanta suburb of Jonesboro last month, a Pakistani immigrant allegedly strangled his 25-year-old daughter with a bungee cord because she was determined to end her arranged marriage and had gotten involved with a new man. According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Sandeela Kanwal's father, Chaudhry Rashid, "told police he is Muslim and that extramarital affairs and divorce are against his religion that's why he killed her." In court last week, a detective quoted Rashid: "God will protect me. God is watching me. I strangled my daughter."

In Upstate New York a few weeks earlier, Waheed Allah Mohammad, an immigrant from Afghanistan, was charged with attempted murder after repeatedly stabbing his 19-year-old sister. The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle reported that Mohammad was "infuriated because his younger sister was going to clubs, wearing immodest clothing, and planning to leave her family for a new life in New York City" - she was a "bad Muslim girl," he told sheriff's investigators.

On New Year's Day in Irving, Texas, the bullet-riddled bodies of the Said sisters - Sarah, 17, and Amina, 18 - were found in an abandoned taxi. Police issued an arrest warrant for their father, an Egyptian immigrant named Yaser Abdel Said, who had reportedly threatened to kill them upon learning that they had boyfriends. According to the Dallas Morning News, Yaser Said was given to "gun-waving rants about how Western culture was corrupting the chastity of his daughters."

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:45 PM
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1. WTF?!
Did these neanderthals seriously believe they could get away with this crap?
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:56 PM
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2. Yes
Because they can't see the world without such rules. Which ALLOWS and DEMANDS such murders.

And if the USA punishes him for it, he would also consider it 'good'. Any punishment would be considered better then living with .....

THe only way to stop this, is to make it shameful some how. Make the punishment be a worse sin in their eyes. Like reminding these folks they will live in prision as someones 'chick' for the rest of their life. <shrug> What EVER it took to mentally shake them up. I think for such fundies, such a life would also be un-honorable..
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:17 PM
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3. This was from Jeff Jacoby, token right-wing OpEd page columnist
Should've noted it, OP..............
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:57 PM
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8. Because that somehow invalidates the point of the article?
Honor killings don't really happen?

Honor killings aren't a big deal?

Only right-wingers care about honor killings?

What, exactly, is your point?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:00 PM
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9. Only that it should be attributed to the writer.
That's all.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:20 PM
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4. These assholes will NOT be treated well
in the Big House. Not at all. And they will be getting exactly what they deserve.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:44 PM
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5. What do they deserve?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:06 PM
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11. aw don't you know, Zombie?
rape and torture is fine as long as it is directed at the "right people"
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:49 PM
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6. It is crap like this that makes me pissed of at the cultural relativist types that say...
...that we have no right to criticize other cultures. Fuck that.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:21 PM
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12. Thank you! We don't tolerate human sacrifices or cannibalism either!
I used to argue the same point back in the 70s.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:50 PM
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7. This will lose it's luster in prison
Mighty bad ass with the daughters, wonder how bad ass they'll be in the big house. I think they will learn a new world order.

Julie
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:04 PM
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10. Okay, I support the DP, but I don't want these guys to get the DP
I WANT them to get life without parole.

I guarantee, the inmates will FIND OUT what they did.

Their life from then on (however long that will be) will make the DP seem like a welcome relief.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:43 PM
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13. A much chaster Colorado irked Qutb.
Who decided to go and write about Western depravity, and how the West should be despised and hated.

For some, this is a partial answer to, Why do they hate us? They hate us because we're contemptible and unrighteous, and aren't mindful of our place.
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