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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:39 PM
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Two oddities from Katrina...Tancredo said to stop aid to LA politicians...
And Kathleen Blanco wanted to keep the guard under her control instead of federalizing it. I remember we had a lot of discussions here at the time. It is almost like Bush refused to cooperate with Blanco, Democrat, unless she did it his way.

The same problem over federalization did not even come up with Republican governor Haley Barbour..according to him there was no problem over it.

Louisiana governor defends decision not to federalize Guard units

Louisiana Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco on Thursday defended her rejection of President Bush's request to federalize the Louisiana National Guard in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, taking issue with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin's description of chaos surrounding the decision.

"The mayor was not in the meeting ," Blanco told the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. "I told the president that the proper way is for me, as governor, to remain in control of the National Guard," Blanco said.
She said while she was "pushing" for more federal troops to come into her state, she was adamant that she would have control of the Guard.


The panel was holding its 15th hearing on hurricanes Katrina and Rita in an effort to determine what went wrong and what the federal government can do now to prevent similar circumstances in times of natural or man-made disaster.

Mississippi Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, who also testified before the panel, said the question of federalizing his state's National Guard never came up with the administration because he made it clear beforehand that he would not be amenable to such a suggestion.


Playing favorites?

And then I did a search for something I remembered...sadly enough. What Tom Tancredo put in writing about withholding aid to the politicians in Louisiana and appointing a special group to handle it instead. Political, you say? I agree.

Here is the pdf version of Tancredo's letter to Denny Hastert.

Here is the html version, from which I quote.

This is the html version of the file http://finance.baylor.edu/weblogs/riskmgmt/docs/Katrina/Louisiana_Politicians.pdf.

9/7/2005

Dear Mr. Speaker,

Given the abysmal failure of state and local officials in Louisiana to plan adequately for or respondto the effects of Hurricane Katrina on the city of New Orleans, and given the long history of public corruption in Louisiana, I hope the House will refrain from directly appropriating any funds from the public treasury to either the state of Louisiana or the city of New Orleans.

Instead, reconstruction and relief funds dedicated to the people of New Orleans should be administered by a private organization or a select committee similar to the historic Truman Commission.Public corruption is a well known problem in Louisiana. The head of the FBI in New Orleans justthis past year described the states public corruption as "epidemic, endemic, and entrenched. No branch ofgovernment is exempt."

Over the last thirty years, a long list of Louisiana politicians have been convicted of crimes; the list includes a governor, an attorney general, an elections commissioner, an agriculture commissioner, three successive insurance commissioners, a congressman, a federal judge, a State Senate president, six other state legislators, and a host of appointed officials, local sheriffs, city councilmen, and parish police jurors. Given the documented public corruption in the state, I am not confident that Louisianaofficials can be trusted to administer federal relief aid.Clearly the federal response from FEMA in the aftermath of the hurricane was hampered bybureaucratic ineptitude.

Making matters worse, the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana have demonstrated mind-boggling incompetence in their lack of planning for and response to this disaster. According to one recent media report, "A year ago, as Hurricane Ivan approached, New Orleans ordered an evacuation but did not use city or school buses to help people evacuate. As a result many of the poorest citizens were unable to evacuate. Fortunately, the hurricane changed course and did not hit New Orleans, but both Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin acknowledged the need for a better evacuation plan...but did not take corrective actions. In 1998, during a threat by Hurricane George, 14,000 people were sent to the Superdome and theft and vandalism were rampant due to inadequate security. Again, these problems were not corrected."The city of New York, by comparison, had no advance warning of 9/11.

Yet Mayor Giuliani andGovernor Pataki displayed tremendous leadership in managing a chaotic situation in the city. Their leadership inspired confidence in their ability to manage the emergency and coordinate federal aid.


The federal government, it sounds to me, played some political games with the officials and citizens of Louisiana in 2005.

Now they are turning their pathetic little convention into a Gustav relief session.

Blame could have been placed everywhere in that sad situation, but pardon me for feeling a little sick inside. A year before Katrina they were praising Jeb Bush to the heavens for how well he handled the Florida hurricanes that year. It was not true, we saw inefficiency in action while seeing it praised on national television.

Double standard, playing politics.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 08:59 PM
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1. Thanks for the Memory Refresh! K&R....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:00 PM
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2. We had a lot of discussions here on the topic....can't find any.
:hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:09 PM
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3. Did you try the DU internal Google Search? I remember tons of discussions about
all this...they have to be somewhere.. Blanco was the hero who was deposed...and Nagan seems to still be there. I couldn't quite figure that out until I remembered how corrupt LA is........and should have thought better of it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:16 PM
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4. Ah, yes, that is yielding all kinds of good stuff.
Documents Highlight Bush-Blanco Standoff

""Shortly after noon on Aug. 31, Louisiana Sen. David Vitter (R) delivered a message that stunned aides to Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D), who were frantically managing the catastrophe that began two days earlier when Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.

White House senior adviser Karl Rove wanted it conveyed that he understood that Blanco was requesting that President Bush federalize the evacuation of New Orleans. The governor should explore legal options to impose martial law "or as close as we can get," Vitter quoted Rove as saying, according to handwritten notes by Terry Ryder, Blanco's executive counsel.

Thus began what one aide called a "full-court press" to compel the first-term governor to yield control of her state National Guard -- a legal, political and personal campaign by White House staff that failed three days later when Blanco rejected the administration's terms, 10 minutes before Bush was to announce them in a Rose Garden news conference, the governor's aides said.

The standoff, illuminated among more than 100,000 pages of documents released Friday by Blanco in response to requests by Senate and House investigators, marks perhaps the clearest single conflict between U.S. and Louisiana officials in the bungled response to New Orleans's surrender to floodwaters and chaos."

And....

Blanco calls for federal Katrina probe---Ex-director says White House tried to foil governor

Blanco calls for federal Katrina probe
Ex-director says White House tried to foil governor
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
By Bill Walsh

WASHINGTON -- Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco called on Congress Monday to create a bipartisan commission to investigate whether White House politics played a role in slowing the federal response to Hurricane Katrina.

Blanco's request was prompted by comments from former FEMA Director Michael Brown, who told a university class last week that in the days after the 2005 hurricane, the Republican Bush administration plotted to upstage Blanco, a Democrat, by pressuring her to relinquish control of the Louisiana National Guard as troops were mounting rescue efforts and trying to restore order in the area.

"Through Michael Brown's revelation this past weekend, all of us were sickened to hear that while thousands of our citizens were suffering during Hurricane Katrina, political operatives in the White House were playing party politics," Blanco said in a statement. "These individuals based key decisions of emergency response on the gender and party affiliation of elected officials, rather than the urgent needs of our people."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:30 PM
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5. Aha...other governors told Bush to keep his hands off their national guard.
Thanks to a link from KoKo...since I had forgotten DU google. From 2006

Governors Object to Bush's National Guard Plan

CHARLESTON, S.C. (Aug. 6) - The nation's governors are closing ranks in opposition to a proposal in Congress that would let the president take control of the National Guard in emergencies without consent of governors.

The idea, spurred by the destruction and chaos that followed Hurricane Katrina's landfall in Louisiana and Mississippi, is part of a House-passed version of the National Defense Authorization Act. It has not yet been agreed to by the Senate.

The measure would remove the currently required consent of governors for the federalization of the Guard, which is shared between the individual states and the federal government.

"Federalization just for the sake of federalization makes no sense," said Gov. Kathleen Blanco of Louisiana, a Democrat who had rough relations with the Bush administration after the disaster last year. "You don't need federalization to get federal troops. ... Just making quick decisions can make things happen."

Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina, a Republican, said "a whole bunch of governors" were opposed to the idea after the proposed change was brought up in a private lunch meeting.


I am sitting here thinking that Louisiana's National Guard just got federalized. :eyes:

Of course I am often wrong.


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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:16 PM
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6. Good info. Thanks.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:01 PM
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7. Yes, we need to remember how they played politics with Katrina.
And they did.

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:24 PM
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9. And they're doing it again. The Repugs are definitely hoping that Gustav is going to be their
redemption for Katrina.

Let's hope the government gets it right this time. Too much is at stake.

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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:22 PM
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8. Good article on that very thing...
...in this thread.

Salon spells it out
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:31 PM
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10. Thanks, I will be reading that all the way through.
I missed it somehow, though the Salon mails come often with updates.

Thanks.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:58 PM
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11. Bush's NORTHCOM has changed all that
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:25 AM
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12. Looks that way....Northcom
"The Militarization of Emergency Relief

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) led by Michael Chertoff, the Federal Emergency Management Authority (FEMA) under the jurisdiction of the DHS and US Northern Command under the authority of the Defense Department, are the key institutions, working with local and state officials.

Given the gravity of the natural disaster, a Martial Law situation suspending normal functions of civilian administration could be adopted in the affected area.

In an August 30 release, U.S. Northern Command confirmed the deployment by the Department of Defense of equipment and military personnel, overshadowing in some regards, the civilian conduct of emergency procedures by State and local officials.

The National Guard and the Military are already deployed in the disaster area. Through the Emergency Management Assistance Compacts, National Guard members from across America are being deployed "in the path of Tropical Storm Gustav".

U.S. Northern Command, which has a mandate to defend the Homeland, plays a central role in emergency procedures. Northcom is "the joint combatant command formed in the wake of the Sept.11, 2001 terrorist attacks to provide homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities." One of Northcom's core responsibilities is to "oversee the Military's response to Natural Disasters". This overseeing of a National disaster is conducted as a military operation with civilian authorities potentially playing a subordinate role.

"The command is responsible for the operational control of all active-duty military responses to a disaster when requested by the state and ordered by the president and the secretary of defense."

( USNORTHCOM, August 30 2008 Report)"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10021

So are National Guard under them, or just active military?





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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:28 AM
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13. Of course that was politicized just like everything else has been
politicized. :shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:47 AM
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14. Blanco is "a white, female Democratic governor and we have a chance to rub her nose in it."
Who said that? Michael Brown (Brownie) of course. In 2007

http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2007/01/20/michael-brown-politics-played-role-in-white-house-response-to-katrina.html

"Former FEMA Director Michael Brown says that politics played a role in the decisions coming from the White House regarding the response to Hurricane Katrina.

During a lecture in New York, Brown revealed that he recommended to the White House that they federalize ALL areas affected by Hurricane Katrina, as doing so would allow the federal government to be in control of all agencies responding to the disaster.

But Brown says the White House resisted his call to federalize all areas affected by the hurricane. According to Brown, one person inside the White House said that only Louisiana should be federalized, because Governor Kathleen Blanco is "a white, female Democratic governor and we have a chance to rub her nose in it."

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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:10 AM
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15. Here is just one link:
How Karl Rove played politics while people drowned
http://www.salon.com/books/excerpt/2008/06/06/rove_katrina/

I blame Rove for a lot of deaths. Nagin, Blanco, and Landrieu were Dems. He didn't give a shit.

Compare that with the help MS got. Haley Barbour an old Rethug was the governor.
They got a lot more help.

This time there are 6 Rethug Gulf Coast governors:
Crist, Perdue, Riley, Barbour, Jindal and Perry
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