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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:01 PM
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My friend thinks political parties should be funded by taxpayers
He says do that and make private and corporate donations illegal. That, in his mind would make the parties accountable only to the taxpayers. And because OUR money would fund it, people would take a bigger interest. What do you think?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:03 PM
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1. He's right. That would leave the rich out in the cold.
No more U.S. being run by the rich.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:04 PM
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2. I like the idea of publicly financed elections, but I would add that we would also
need a return of the Fairness doctrine as well, or else FAUX will just give the GOP all kinds of free exposure and shut the Dems out.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:04 PM
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3. Then who decides what is a "legitimate" party and what is
just a fringe group? Who decides how much each party gets? Once the government holds the purse strings for political activity, then the government can pretty much decide who gets elected and who is marginalized. I don't think I want that.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:05 PM
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4. that's the one thing PLUS
You'd still have to raise money to start your party until you could be popular enough to be liable.... that could only be done through donations
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:08 PM
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6. There could be 10-to-1 matching funds.
Someone can give a maximum of $1,000 to a political party. The party gets $10,000 in tax dollars for each $1,000 it collects in donations.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:05 PM
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5. It would be better than what we have now...
...where people pay $28,000 or more to eat dinner with Obama or McCain, and the money goes to the Democratic or Republican party, respectively.

Only the rich can afford to give $28,000 to a political party, and so they're getting access which others don't.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:09 PM
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7. Corporations pay taxes. Doesn't that make them taxpayers?
Not that I want to see the government in the pocket of big biddness.

The problem is that politicians sell us out. They take money from big business and protect them instead of us. They are happy to take our money too though.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:13 PM
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8. He's exactly right. It's not likely to happen but he's still right
What politician can get 60 to 200 or so of his colleagues to cut their income by a factor of 100 or more?

Imagine no more Swiftboat ads or political TV ads of any sort? No office managers donating half of their annual salary at an oil company after a candidate endorses unlimited offshore drilling. No flying on corporate aircraft, no $50000 a plate fundraisers. In a perfect world no lobbyists.

Sure sounds good to me. :)
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:14 PM
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9. I agree that corporate donations should be illegal but I disagree with the rest. I think
that a percentage of each tax dollar collected should be put into a large pool (5 cents/dollar for example) and this pool is split equally between candidates and parties. I think all ads on TV, radio and print should be free as a public service and equal time given to all candidates.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:18 PM
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10. Actually, it's a good idea.
Each party gets the same amount of money to present their ideas. The one that uses their money the best supposedly is the one that will gain the biggest following. It will keep politicians honest, sort of, because they can't be bought. I would like to try it because from the very first inception,
it will shove the money makers out of government.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:46 PM
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11. I'm not sure about the parties
but the elections surely should be!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:56 PM
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12. My friend says we should do away with political parties altogether, along with the parliamentary...
system and instal a Tsar.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:02 AM
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14. I have a different idea.
Every citizen should serve their country two years out of their lives in either a legislative capacity or a military capacity. If they don't want to do military they can opt to be put in the pool for legislative capacity. The catch is that they will be put into the lottery like jury duty. When their name comes up in a toss then they have to serve.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:59 PM
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13. I doubt taxpayer funded political parties would increase the publics interest.
The public pays for the military and a majority of the public takes no interest in what the military is doing in Iraq.
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