Palin thinks Pledge written by Founding Fathers

[L. Coyote]

Palin thinks Pledge written by Founding Fathers Hotlist
by JLFinch - Aug 31, 2008 - http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/31/174153/834/246/581480


Good lord, this woman is a female George Bush.

Here is Palin's response to a candidate questionnaire for the Alaska 2006 gubernatorial race:

11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance

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[EFerrari]

1. What an idiot.

lol

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Perfectly said. Cannot add anything to that...

[EFerrari]

12. Now we have to have 200 threads on how idiots are unfairly attacked.

:rofl:

[BrklynLiberal]

13. Well, to be fair, this is really is an insult to idiots.. :D

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

14. LOL

:rofl:

[L. Coyote]

30. But, it is an everyday thing for a MORAN.

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[mcctatas]

2. freaking Knights of Columbus!!!!!!!

The Knights of Columbus in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity. Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words "under God" which were from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge. In New York City on April 22, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words "under God" after the words "one nation." In the following two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. On August 21, 1952, the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus at its annual meeting adopted a resolution urging that the change be made universal and copies of this resolution were sent to the President, the Vice President (as Presiding Officer of the Senate) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The National Fraternal Congress meeting in Boston on September 24, 1952, adopted a similar resolution upon the recommendation of its President, Supreme Knight Luke E. Hart. Several State Fraternal Congresses acted likewise almost immediately thereafter. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Addition_of_the_words_.22under_God.22

[elshiva]

21. Thank you for the information.

I don't know much about history, but I DID know that the pledge came from the 1950s. It's really awful that she doesn't know that and she's trying to be vice president.

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buffy/

[lostnfound]

25. It actually came from 1892 and was modified most recently in the 1950s

The wikipedia link has it all.

[elshiva]

26. Opps, sorry about that, but

still 1892... She is still so wrong.

buffy/

[poiuytsister]

29. Palin and CO will probably have the Wiki site scrubbed by now

Just like she cleaned her own up to delete anything scandalous

[L. Coyote]

38. I found a missing WA Post article today!

Showing she wasn't lukewarm against the Bridge to Nowhere until it was obvious it was going nowhere!

[JI7]

23. i just read that Bellamy wanted to add "equality and fraternity" but didn't

because it would be seen as controversial by many who opposed rights for blacks and women.

but this is an example of the problem i have with people. most who want to make a big issue about the need to recite the pledge probably have no knowledge about it's history.

[lligrd]

3. Oh My

It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

[L. Coyote]

6. Some people just say stuff without thinking about factuality!

Because it will get them elected?

[Muttocracy]

4. and how many stars were on the original flag, sweetie? nt

[HowHasItComeToThis]

5. BENJAMIN WAS A REPUBLICAN AND FOUNDED THE FRANKLIN MINT

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[HowHasItComeToThis]

8. UNDER GOD WAS ADDED BY THE REPUBICANS AS ANTI COMMIE

IN 1954

[whopis01]

39. Actually Louis Charles Rabaut (D - Michigan) got that ball rolling in 1953. n/t

[bluestateguy]

9. Conservative cartoon American history

That's like the person I heard say that we fought the American Revolution to defend the Constitution.

Uuuuhh...

[roody]

10. Puppy killer Palin---wolf puppies that is.

[MadrasT]

11. So help me if she gets elected to any federal office

my head will explode. I'm serious. And it won't be pretty. :nuke:

[RadicalTexan]

35. This is what my 58-year-old mother keeps saying

She's been yelling at me over the phone since Friday.

I agree.

[silverojo]

15. I could understand it if McSame had called HER a c*nt

Or, more specifically, a stupid c*nt. But I suppose it applies to his wife, too. Not big on selecting intelligent women, is he?

[bigtree]

16. stunning

[tabasco]

17. Damn.

It's really mind-boggling that she was elected mayor anywhere in this country, or on Earth.

[alphafemale]

18. Wow. Just Wow.

That's appalling.

[last_texas_dem]

19. Lack of historical knowledge is just red meat for the Repug base

Think about it. They ate up Chimpy's idiocy and gaffes and found them refreshing and endearing. Palin is on their side on the right-wing issues- and that's what matters. The more she reveals herself to not be too into that thar book larnin', the more strongly the wingnut base will root for her. Recent history proves it.

[2008]

20. She's adorable!

Speaks in complete sentences just like a grown up girl

[ColbertWatcher]

22. Her answer to #3 is interesting ...

3. Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?
JB: We should not exclude abstinence-until-marriage education programs.
SP: Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.

So, when she got pregnant and eloped she can claim she wasn't taught "abstinence-until-marriage".

Or, when her daughter suddenly appeared with a ring on her finger at the Dayton McCain rally (where he said the GOP picked her to be his running mate) it's okay for her to have sex.

[FuckYouAROCK]

24. What an idiot

[LeftishBrit]

27. What a total idiot

Even non-Americans with any interest in history know that the Pledge was written long after the Founding Fathers.

In any case, I suspect she'd rather not have to say the older version about 'one nation indivisible' as she apparently gave some support to the Alaska Independence Party!

[Liberal Dose]

28. I wonder if the founding fathers enjoyed the Chicago World's Fair? Someone should ask them. They are

immortal, right? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[L. Coyote]

31. Only the four on Mt. Rushmore!! LOL

I was surprised they had glasses back then. :rofl:

[renate]

32. K&R for folks like me who missed this earlier

:rofl:

[meow2u3]

33. The Pledge of Allegiance wasn't written by a conservative

It was written by a self-described Christian socialist in the 19th century.

http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm

Excerpt:

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

Francis Bellamy in his sermons and lectures and Edward Bellamy in his novels and articles described in detail how the middle class could create a planned economy with political, social and economic equality for all. The government would run a peace time economy similar to our present military industrial complex.

The Pledge was published in the September 8th issue of The Youth's Companion, the leading family magazine and the Reader's Digest of its day. Its owner and editor, Daniel Ford, had hired Francis in 1891 as his assistant when Francis was pressured into leaving his baptist church in Boston because of his socialist sermons. As a member of his congregation, Ford had enjoyed Francis's sermons. Ford later founded the liberal and often controversial Ford Hall Forum, located in downtown Boston.

Originally, the words "under God" weren't put in until the Cold War.

The Pledge of Allegiance was first recited in 1892, the year it was first written. The author was Francis Bellamy, a Baptist minister from New York. Bellamy was also a chairman of a committee of state superintendents of education in the National Education Association.
Public schools all around the country were preparing a celebration in honor of the 400th anniversary of Columbus Day. Bellamy wanted a special celebration, and he wanted to center it around a flag-raising ceremony and salute. With this in mind, he wrote his pledge:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Notice the words "my flag." They stayed this way in the Pledge until 1924, when a National Flag Conference announced that the words "my flag" would be changed to "the flag of the United States of America."

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

The Pledge stayed this way until 1954, when Congress added the words "under God." This was the final change, giving the Pledge its current wording:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


http://www.socialstudiesforkids.com/articles/ushistory/pledgeofallegiancehistory.htm

I didn't know the Founding Fathers lived until 1954! :sarcasm:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

34. They also think they put it on our money as well.

None of that crap happened until the Red Scare bullshit of the 20th century.
Duckie

[dkofos]

36. Yes people, she really is that fucking stupid.

gwb with tits

[madamesilverspurs]

37. She's in good company.

It wasn't all that long ago that Karen Hughes explained to a group of dignitaries (I think she was in the Middle East at the time) that "...one nation under God" is in our Constitution.