Anchorage Daily News has decided to print a story on babygate! Asks about the birth certificate

[gatorboy]

It's actually pretty interesting.

http://community.adn.com/node/130178

McAllister was an Anchorage TV reporter before working for Palin. He said Palin once approached him - before people knew she was pregnant - assuming he'd been hearing rumors.

"She said it's not true about Bristol," McAllister said.

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Why not share the birth certificate?

"What a thing to request -- prove that this is your baby," McAllister said. "I mean, my god, that's horrifying to think that she would have to do that."

I said one reason is to put it to rest. "In my mind, there's nothing to put to rest," he said.

[K8-EEE]

1. Wow, apparently there were rumurs DURING the pregnancy?

I didn't know this story had been out there so long. That's weird...it would be so easy to have put it to bed by now.

[aquart]

7. I'm trying to wrap my head around this.

BEFORE she told people SHE was pregnant, she was refuting rumors that her DAUGHTER was pregnant?????

Why not simply say it's not her, it's ME? Oh wait. That's exactly what she finally did, isn't it?

[LisaL]

19. Apparently even before Palin announced she was pregnant,

there were rumors that Bristol was pregnant.

[orleans]

2. here is how mcbush vetted sarah:

vetting team: sarah, is that really your baby?

sarah: yes

vetting team: okay then.

[ColbertWatcher]

4. No, this is how she was vetted ...

Vetting person: "Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?"

Anna Nicole Palin: "Yes."

Vetting person: "Did you know Obama is a muslim?"

Anna Nicole Palin: "Yes."

Vetting person: "Did you know John McCain was a POW?"

Anna Nicole Palin: "Yes."

GOP official: "Sounds good to me!"

[eShirl]

16. actual transcript!

:rofl:

[orleans]

30. LOL!!! n/t

[hvn_nbr_2]

31. Missed one question: "Why do you want to serve George Bush?" nt

[ColbertWatcher]

33. Ah, yes! Perfect! n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

3. The lady doth protest too much.

McAllister was an Anchorage TV reporter before working for Palin. He said Palin once approached him - before people knew she was pregnant - assuming he'd been hearing rumors.

"She said it's not true about Bristol," McAllister said.

She tells a reporter (before hiring him) that the rumors are not true.

Did he ask?

Or, did she just volunteer the information. And of all the reporters, why hire that one?

[avaistheone1]

5. I wonder what McAlister thinks now - especially since he was basing her veracity prior to troopegate

[Monk06]

6. Well Barak is being asked to prove he's not a muslim, homosexual coke addict. The wingers want to

see his birth certificate so why not baby Trig's.

America deserves the truth as the RW blogsphere
likes to point out.

[aquart]

8. Wait. They had to INDUCE labor?

"Most women start having regular contractions before their water breaks, but in some cases, the water breaks first. When this happens, labor usually follows soon. If you don't start having contractions on your own within a certain amount of time, you'll need to be induced, since your baby's more likely to get an infection without the amniotic sac's protection against germs."

<http://www.babycenter.com/0_signs-of-labor_181.bc>

"Yes you can rupture your membranes(break your water) without contractions but the fluid will continue to leak, like running down your legs. Anytime you move positions you should expect a gush. If this isn't happening then chances are your water didn't break. 39 weeks is considered term so anyday now...and yes it is normal to loss control of urinary function with that much pressure on your little bladder. Keep an eye on it. Call your doctor with any bleeding, fluid that is not clear, decrease in the baby movements or steady contraction. rest assured...this is normal and happens to almost all pregnant women. Good Luck to you!"

<http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070605184113AAcvmnt>

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you need to deliver w/in 24hrs of water breaking b/c of infection
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np: It's definitely a risk but it doesn't always happen. My water broke at 15 weeks and I didn't deliver until 32. No infection.
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well I bet you went to the hospital and got meds. hope everything was alright w/your db
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Babies were okay (twins), just small. And I only spent part of the pregnancy in the hospital and only the last 3 weeks on antibiotics.
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nnp: what? can that happen? How can you grow a baby in there with no amniotic fluid?
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The baby constantly produces more fluid, so there was always a bit. The membranes didn't rupture entirely, more like a constant leak. Still, my doctors said the twin with no fluid would likely die at birth. Somehow she had just enough fluid and she was fine.
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oh my gosh... that had to have been so terrifying for you. i'm so glad your twins were ok!
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It was so scary!! We are extremely lucky."

<http://www.urbanbaby.com/talk/posts/47512399>

Was Sarah Palin dripping on the plane? Did she leave a mess?

[Fridays Child]

10. The only reason to have induced labor prematurely, in a high-risk pregnancy, would be because...

...her water broke. Otherwise, the doctor would have done everything she could to halt labor.

[kristopher]

9. Also includes best dated photo of Palin: 3/14/08

I downloaded the image and lightened it a little. There is quite a discrepancy with the freeper photo of her supposedly taken about the same time.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/v-gallery/story/345168.html?/news/alaska/v-enlarge/story/345168-a345519-t3.html

[KharmaTrain]

11. The Legs Are Growing...

The more I read, the stranger this thing gets. Sounds like Wasalia was a real Payton Place on crack.

[LisaL]

20. It sure is strange.

Why were there rumors that Bristol was pregnant even before Palin revealed Palin herself was pregnant?

[madaboutharry]

12. What is going on here?

Now there are threads discussing whether Bristol Palin is pregnant now and has just gotten married. If that is true, than this baby has to be Gov. Palin's child.

What a crazy mess.

[NMDemDist2]

13. how do you figure? the baby is 6 months old isn't he?

she could have gotten pregnant again in that time :shrug:

[a la izquierda]

17. This is the only time I'll weigh in on these stories...

but sure she could be pregnant again. Irish twins. The kids would, in theory, be 15 months apart. I know lots of people who are 15 months apart from their siblings. I grew up in a neighborhood of predominantly Irish immigrant families or families with strong Irish Catholic roots (my own included). My sister and I are 16 months apart. My best friend and her brother are 14 months apart. It happens a lot.

[shrike]

25. My sister and I are 13 months apart

To the day, even.

[TXDemGal]

41. My husband and his brother are 12 months apart

minus one day! Sept. 19th (hubby) and Sept. 18th (brother, the very next year). God bless my MIL, may she rest in peace...she deserves the peaceful rest, that's fer sure!

[REP]

43. My brother and I are 13 months apart in age, too

And my parents were in their 30s and married to each other.

[FatDave]

34. My 2nd and 3rd are 14 months apart.

When word went out that we were having another we got a lot of "You guys know what causes that, right?"

[madaboutharry]

23. The baby is 4 months old and

the information is that the daughter is in her third trimester. I don't know where the tread is but the source was a neighbor of the Palins.

[a la izquierda]

29. Well, I guess that's impossible then. N/T

[PuraVidaDreamin]

14. Can't someone dig up photos of Sarah's 4 past pregnancies to compare how she carried?

She's been a public person for some time and there have to be photos to use
for comparison. Yes all pregnancies are different, however w/ 4 others
there is probably a trend.

[amuse bouche]

36. You are joking, right?

[RamboLiberal]

39. There's one of her in 1989

She's supposed to be 8 months in this one.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. Get the National Enquirer on the story. Maybe they can destroy Palin 's political career

like they destroyed Edwards'. x(

[cobalt1999]

24. The National Enquirer didn't destroy Edwards political career

He did that himself.

If Palin faked her own pregnancy, it won't be the presses fault that she's dropped from the ticket. It'll be hers alone, same as Edwards.

[amuse bouche]

37. I think John had a little something to do with that

[LisaL]

18. So, according to this article, there were rumors

about Bristol being pregnant even before Palin announced her own pregnancy?

[Wilber_Stool]

21. What about her insurance company.

If the baby is her's, the insurance will pay for any special treatment the baby needs. If it is her daughter's, it will not. Insurance will not cover a grandchild. This could be an insurance scam.

[Flying Dream Blues]

27. Actually, depending on the state, if the child is your dependent your insurance will cover him/her,

regardless of whether the child is your child or your grandchild. In my state, coverage of dependents is part of the Board of Insurance's mandated coverage...all that's required is that the child is claimed as a dependent for income tax purposes.

[Vincardog]

35. Bingo insurance fraud

[radfringe]

22. something else that smells a bit fishy

about 8-9 years ago Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Jane Swift was pregnant, you couldn't open a paper or flip on local news without seeing a story or update of some sort on how she was feeling and plans for her "job" after having the baby. Did wonders for her approval numbers at the time.

I realize that Palin 'kept' it secret until she was about 7 months pregnant - so the question is 'why did she keep it secret'? Would have made great PR....

[adamuu]

26. because when she was running, she was asked who would take care of all these kids

she said her husband would quit his job if she won Governor seat
guess what, he never did
she tried to explain it away but Alaska made a collective :eyeroll:
In short, Grandma takes care of the kids.

So, its a sensitive issue... the reaction would have been one or more of:
- So will to Dude quit his job NOW? We're kinda worried about these kids.
- Jeez, lady, how many kids is grandma gonna raise for you? It's not like you can pop out these kids and move on!

I think she was trying to minimize the length of time for that reaction to develop.

[CitizenPatriot]

28. so, Dems birth Certificates aren't good enough

and Repukes don't have to show them at all...

got it!

I refer, sarcastically, to the frivolous lawsuit filed against Obama saying his birth cert is a fake....and the RW has done or said NOTHING to dispute this bit of SLANDER.

but when this rumor swirled in with the announcement of Caribou Barbie, to even ask for a birth certificate is an outrage!

I am not playing this game. It's either appropriate or it's not and I'm not going to listen to the faux outrage of the right or their talking heads on TV. The answer we should be giving is "she's not the first candidate in this campaign to be asked to provide a birth certificate to quell a slanderous rumor. Where was your outrage when it was Obama?"

I'm so sick of how the RW is spinning this and if I hear one more bs version of this girl I'm going to puke. Anyone who is saying they are for her is so misguided as to be a danger to our society. She is not olhy not ready, but she's power hungry, indulges in cronyism, and does not even have the smarts to be loyal like bush was to friends. That is one blinded politician -- I would shudder to see her dealing with Russia or Iran! She'd think, just like Bush, she could just "take no prisoners" as is her modus operandi.

She scares me. Ignorance meets arrogance meets blind ambition. DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

[TXDemGal]

42. Caribou Barbie!

LMAO! :rofl:

[WA98296]

32. In Alaska, birth certificates are not public record...why?

[Quantess]

38. I'm guessing, to prevent adopted children from tracking down their birth parents....

Only a guess, though.

[RamboLiberal]

40. They are not in Hawaii

Learned that following the stupid wingnuts trying to prove Obama's birth certificate was a fake.

[REP]

44. The original birth certificates of adoptees are never available to anyone

Amended birth certificates are filed when a child is adopted, and the original is sealed. Even if a birth certificate is produced, it may very well list the elder Palins; I'm sure they were able to hire a lawyer to arrange the private adoption of their (first) grandchild.

[TXDemGal]

45. Some states have passed laws that allow adult adoptees

to have access to their original birth records. Maine and New Hampshire, to cite two.

[REP]

46. Trig may never be competent to request his

And no one else will have the right to request it, even if Alaska unseals adoptees original birth certificates.