Levees overtopping

[malaise]

says Mark Potter on GEM$NBC - says it's like a water fall. Industrial canal in NOLA WTF!!!!!

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[whistle]

1. The new FEMA pumps will now swing into action....if they are working

...Are those new pumps working?

[stray cat]

4. where do they pump the water too - in Katrina pumped out water ended up flowing back into the city

[kestrel91316]

22. The pumps along the freeway that I saw when I was there in July

put the water in the river, IIRC. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

The river levees are up to the task.

[justiceischeap]

7. Rumours on Kos say no, the pumps aren't working. (eom)

[stray cat]

2. CNN reports the same and the storm has just started in the NO region

hopefully its just over the top and the levees don't collapse....

[malaise]

5. First they told us two barges and a ship were loose

now this. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm! Fingers and toes crossed for NOLA residents.

[old mark]

8. A half hour ago, CNN said the water would not reach the levees.

Glad so many are out of the city. Hope my relatives are leaving the Texas gulf coast - can't get them on the phone. They are near Galviston.

mark

[Th1onein]

31. They are supposed to evacuate near Galveston?

I've got family there, too. Jesus.

[Breeze54]

32. No Galveston evacuation... but they're monitoring the rains... which will be heavy.

They called off the Galveston evacuation.


Galveston not evacuating for Gustav

01:11 PM CDT on Saturday, August 30, 2008

Galveston not evacuating for Gustav KHOU

http://www.khou.com/news/local/galveston/stories/khou080830_mp_galveston_evacuation.29833454.html

[skooooo]

3. That's on the side of the city they thought would be safe....

...I think!

[stray cat]

9. The Canal levee is one that flooded during Katrina so you may be right.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. K & R Rampant government incompetence overruns New Orleans...

again! :mad:

[malaise]

10. The levees on the Western side were not increased in height

WTF!!!!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

12. !

[Wednesdays]

11. They're showing it on the live feeds

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

At least one of those channels are showing it at one time or another. Scary!

One channel is showing the Industrial Canal barrier, and water is pouring over it as though there was nothing there. Even if the barriers stay intact, there's going to be some serious flooding.

[malaise]

14. Well the good news is there is no breach n/t

[fishnfla]

19. awesome link

relaying info to my brother thank you

[slackmaster]

28. What a cool page!

I feel like the character played by David Bowie in The Man Who Fell To Earth.

[fishnfla]

13. nola.com reporting

pumps are running on generators

[Breeze54]

15. Louisiana: Tornado Warning: St. Tammany and many flood warnings...

Louisiana

http://www.wunderground.com/severe.asp#Louisiana

Tornado Warning: St. Tammany

Tornado Watch:
Ascension, Assumption, East Baton Rouge, East Feliciana, Iberville, Jefferson, Lafourche, Livingston, Orleans, Plaquemines, Pointe Coupee, St. Bernard, St. Charles, St. Helena, St. James, St. John The Baptist, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, Terrebonne, Washington, West Baton Rouge, West Feliciana

Hurricane Statement:
Bossier, Caddo, Claiborne, Union, Webster

Hurricane Warning:
Ascension, Assumption, Cameron, Iberia, Livingston, Lower Jefferson, Lower Lafourche, Lower Plaquemines, Lower St. Bernard, Lower Terrebonne, Orleans, St. Charles, St. James, St. John The Baptist, St. Mary, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, Upper Jefferson, Upper Lafourche, Upper Plaquemines, Upper St. Bernard, Upper Terrebonne, Vermilion

Inland Hurricane Wind Warning:
Acadia, Allen, East Baton Rouge, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Iberville, Jefferson Davis, Lafayette, Lower St. Martin, Pointe Coupee, St. Helena, St. Landry, Upper St. Martin, West Baton Rouge, West Feliciana

Inland Tropical Wind Warning, Inland Hurricane Wind Watch:
Avoyelles, Rapides

Inland Tropical Wind Warning:
Beauregard, Bienville, Calcasieu, Caldwell, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, La Salle, Lincoln, Madison, Natchitoches, Ouachita, Red River, Richland, Sabine, Tensas, Vernon, Washington, Winn

Flood Warning:
St. Mary, Lafayette, Vermilion, East Baton Rouge, Livingston, Ascension, St. Helena, Tangipahoa, Allen, Rapides, Acadia, Evangeline, Jefferson Davis, St. Tammany

Flash Flood Watch:
Acadia, Allen, Ascension, Assumption, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Calcasieu, Caldwell, Catahoula, Claiborne, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Iberia, Iberville, Jackson, Jefferson Davis, La Salle, Lafayette, Lincoln, Livingston, Lower Jefferson, Lower Lafourche, Lower Plaquemines, Lower St. Bernard, Lower St. Martin, Lower Terrebonne, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Orleans, Ouachita, Pointe Coupee, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Charles, St. Helena, St. James, St. John The Baptist, St. Landry, St. Mary, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, Tensas, Union, Upper Jefferson, Upper Lafourche, Upper Plaquemines, Upper St. Bernard, Upper St. Martin, Upper Terrebonne, Vermilion, Vernon, Washington, Webster, West Baton Rouge, West Carroll, West Feliciana, Winn

Wind Advisory:
Bossier, Caddo, Claiborne, East Carroll, Morehouse, Union, Webster, West Carroll

Public Information Statement:
Catahoula, Concordia, East Carroll, Franklin, Madison, Morehouse, Richland, Tensas, West Carroll

[malaise]

17. Watch on the middle one

top- WWL
http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/gustav.html

[bicentennial_baby]

16. Here's some pics of the canal from nola.com

[Breeze54]

18. * Forecast... rise above flood stage by tonight & continue to rise to near 25.5 feet by tomorrow...

* Forecast... rise above flood stage by tonight and continue to rise to near 25.5 feet by tomorrow evening.

927 am CDT Mon Sep 01 2008

http://www.wunderground.com/US/LA/040.html

The National Weather Service in New Orleans/Baton Rouge has issued a

* Flood Warning for the tchefuncte river above US Hwy 190 nr Covington.

* From this evening to Thursday afternoon... or until the warning is cancelled.

* At 7:00 am Monday the stage was 10.0 feet.

* Moderate flooding is forecast.

* Flood stage is 20.0 feet.

* Forecast... rise above flood stage by tonight and continue to rise to near 25.5 feet by tomorrow evening.

* Impact... at 26.0 feet... the entrance Road to Camp tchefuncte will flood.
The campgrouds will be inaccessable by auto and evacuation of the campground area is advised.
Homes between tantella ranch Road and the river as well as homes on trenchard Road and Louisiana
Highway 1077 will be threatened

[carlyhippy]

20. who would leave ships and barges in an area where a hurricane is imminent

hope these loose barges and ships don't make their way towards those levee walls, it will take only a few bangs on the walls and there will be a hole.

[bicentennial_baby]

21. Railroad bridge causing 3 ft back up of water in canal:

The L & N railroad bridge across the Industrial Canal is in the down position, said Mark Lambert, a spokesman for the state Department of Transportation and Development. That bridge is owned by the Port of New Orleans, but Lambert said DOTD has offered to send teams to the area to help raise the bridge.

Engineer Bob Turner, executive director of the East Bank Regional Levee Authority, said the bridge is causing a 3-foot backup of water in the canal. Turner has been in contact with the port and DOTD authorities about raising the bridge but it the controls are underwater.

Bonura said the bridge, built in 1919, is only able to handle winds up to 45 miles an hour, which means it cannot weather a hurricane in an upright position.

"Really, the public safety concern is that if it were raised during hurricane-force winds, the bridge could become unstable and fall on the floodwall or levee," Bonura said.

He also said that at the moment, there is no way to raise the bridge because the controls are under water and equipment can't be moved to the area.

It is the Port's usual protocol to keep these old railroad bridges in the down position during a hurricane, Bonura said. The canal is designed with that factor in mind, he said.

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/

[DainBramaged]

23. HERE (screen capture)

[Bonobo]

24. Overtopping is ok, breach is not. No breach yet. nt

[Barack_America]

25. F*. CNN reporting the lower 9th ward is flooding...

Says not only overtopping, but seeping underneath.

Hopefully they're just overreacting.

[bicentennial_baby]

27. They just showed it on the video

There was definitely water spurting through the levee. Ugh.

[Breeze54]

29. On the scene: Water coming over Industrial Canal floodwall

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2008/09/report_water_coming_over_indus.html

by The Times-Picayune
Monday September 01, 2008, 10:07 AM

A New Orleans Police Officer watches from the Claiborne Avenue
bridge as water spills over the floodwall on the Upper 9th Ward side.


A small river of water is rushing down North Robertson Street toward Poland Avenue, coming from
water splashing over the western wall of the Industrial Canal floodwall. Army Corps of Engineers
officials said the spillage does not pose a major threat.

Water is overtopping for several hundred yards on the Upper Ninth Ward side of the Industrial Canal
on both sides of the Claiborne Avenue bridge. Poland is parallel to the Industrial Canal.

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There is currently no water overtopping the eastern floodwall, which borders the Lower Ninth Ward.
Much of that wall was replaced after Katrina and is taller than the wall on the western side.

On Poland Avenue about three blocks from the Claiborne Avenue bridge, 1½ feet of water was
already pooled and the level was rising. A man, woman and two teenage boys were standing on
a nearby porch.

The woman glanced up at the floodwall and started to weep. "Where's our levees?" said Bobbie,
the woman who gave only her first name. "They said it wasn't supposed to be like this. I was
here during Katrina. I'm not for this."

Then, two National Guard Humvees pulled up and started barking commands to the group to get
in the truck. "Let's go, let's go. Get the bags," said the man, as he climbed into the truck.

On the Claiborne Avenue Bridge, a New Orleans Police Department officer riding in an SUV
was patrolling the area. Speaking over a bullhorn, he ordered all vehicles off the bridge.

"Y'all do realize that if that thing breaks, y'all are going to be here for a long time,
and nobody's coming to get you," he said, as the crowd of media and onlookers generally
ignored his admonition to get off the bridge.

A man flees his Poland Avenue home Monday morning as the LA National Guard hurried
to evacuate his family. The levee s a short distance away and was overtopping.
Water is in the streets of the upper ninth ward in places.

[JCMach1]

30. I saw the report of newspaper filled concrete walls

Might see the result of that...

[fishnfla]

26. 5 barges loose st charles on miss river?