Meanwhile the protests in Minn/St.Paul continue. Amy Goodman detained/arrested...

[Greyhound]

details still coming in, nothing on M$M yet...

This is not yesterday's "fence jumping" story...

[villager]

1. Jesus Christ -- they've arrested Amy Goodman?

n/t

[Greyhound]

8. Please see reply #4. n/t

[Rhiannon12866]

30. K&R. And I agree, Amy Goodman?!

That is really scary...:scared:

[Muttocracy]

2. uh oh - where did you hear it? MSP papers? nt

[Greyhound]

9. Please see reply #4. n/t

[mmonk]

3. Amy Goodman?

We have to win this election or this country is OVER.

[Cerridwen]

4. Some of the reports from the report site

http://tc.indymedia.org/livewire



updates
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:56.
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Amy Goodman arrested. ** coldsnap: Comms raid in progress at 6th & Wall. Legal observer on the scene. 9 in custody, property being seized.

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update
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:50.
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30-40 cops headed down I94, prepping for mass arrests ** SUBSCRIBE TO TCIMC ON TWITTER. WE ARE PICKING UP AS MUCH OF THE COMMS TEAM SLACK AS POSSIBLE

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COMMS RAIDED
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:46.
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COMMS SPACE RAIDED. 9 ARRESTED; CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACY TO RIOT - SAME CHARGE AS THE RNC-WC 7. OFFICERS WOULD NOT SHOW LEGAL OBSERVER WARRANT.

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BUSSES LEAVING
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:43.
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BUSSES ARE LEAVING BY THE DOZENS TO HUNDREDS FROM STAGING AREA UNDER LAFEYETTE BRIDGE, BOUND FOR XCEL ** anticap blocked attacked by pepperspray, teargas, concussion grenades, rubber bullets. lots of injuries **12th and robert is closed off ** 5 arrests at minnesota and 8th

[countryjake]

16. Lots of injuries...

rubber bullets, hope everyone comes thru this okay!

Thanks for that report!

[liberalmuse]

5. Amy?

What's up with the police in MN? They seem a bit overzealous. I do have to comment the police in Denver. It seems they were more restrained, and they also foiled that assassination plot.

[intheflow]

25. Really, the Denver police look like a

genuine welcome committee by committee. Even pushing down the Code Pink woman seems markedly tame by comparison.

[mzmolly]

29. It's bizarre.

They seem disorganized and yes, overzealous.

[Muttocracy]

6. OMG - look at Pioneer Press home page!

http://www.twincities.com/

[suffragette]

31. Looks like they're deliberately minimizing the number of protesters

like they always do.

http://www.twincities.com/rnc/ci_10356224?nclick_check=1

Police initially estimated the crowd at 10,000, but then revised it sharply downward an hour later.
...
Immigrants, labor groups, veterans, student groups and others gathered for the rally, which was to walk about a mile and a half from the Capitol to the site of the convention and back.

Bet that initial count was much closer to the truth, probably even higher, since the article mentions groups in different locations.

[Muttocracy]

43. the 2 big papers there are reporting activity all over downtown - big area, not right outside Xcel.

[Muttocracy]

47. City Pages says more than 9000

[suffragette]

49. Very close to that initial estimate of the police before they lowered it

[Ahpook]

35. This country has flipped fucking out :(

Some of the comments under the article are something to read. "As I look out the window of my downtown condo, I can tell you with absolute certainty, these protesters are not peaceful.

They are braking windows as we speak. Flush these turds out of our city!"

That's probably some fucking shill posting but would like to hear more about this. Can that posters info be verified?

And we have the typical idiots saying "shoot them" among other garbage.

I really don't think these people understand exactly what they are supporting when they support gassing, beating, arresting and any other abuses towards fellow Americans.

I am very troubled for our country

[Muttocracy]

41. Strib and PioneerPress websites sound like it's a mix of peaceful and disruptive protestors.

So it stinks if the idiots running around breaking store windows are bringing a crackdown on the genuine war protestors.

[Muttocracy]

46. Strib photo gallery has photos of store windows being smashed - idiots

http://www.startribune.com/galleries/27738614.html

[Ahpook]

70. Hmmm.

I don't know any protester that would wear black around their face and break shit? Well, no one in my immediate circle.

Until I hear more, I am going with plants to justify this madness.

Thanks for the photo link, by the way. I feel ill:(

[csziggy]

85. Police also escorted a group of 17 mostly black-clad youth across the Robert St. Bridge

"Police also escorted a group of 17 mostly black-clad youth across the Robert St. Bridge in an apparent effort to get them out of downtown." http://www.twincities.com/rnc/ci_10356224?nclick_check=1

Everybody else they pepper spray and mace, those 17 black clad youths are "escorted"?

[snot]

42. yeah, can't take chances with a guy wielding a guitar!

[Loge23]

52. "Watch out - he's got a guitar!"

and how about the cops - gas masks, helmets, face shields.
This country is so fucked.

[zippy890]

58. WOW that is awful and scary

what a photo!

the cops don't look like good guys, sheesh. or are they national guard?
looks like a facist country,

[Muttocracy]

61. I think those must be St. Paul City police since it says POLICE on their arms

as opposed to Ramsey Cty Sheriff or Natl Guard

[gristy]

7. Amy!

:hug:

In 1991, covering the independence movement in East Timor, Goodman and fellow journalist Allan Nairn were badly beaten by Indonesian soldiers after they witnessed a mass killing of Timorese demonstrators in what became known as the Dili Massacre.<6> She has speculated that the only thing that spared her the fate of the Australian-based journalists who were killed in East Timor in 1975 was an American passport; the United States was providing military support to the Indonesian army at the time. The U.S. did not cut off military aid to Indonesia until 1993.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_goodman

[Greyhound]

10. Police, National Guard, fire tear gas into protest group

http://www.twincities.com/rnc/ci_10356224?nclick_check=1

TY JoeIsOneOfUs.

[Muttocracy]

14. that photo on the home page - haven't seen that crap since NOLA and Seattle WTO have we? nt

[Greyhound]

26. I'm just happy we don't live in one of those police states...

[Muttocracy]

22. STrib has photos with pepper spray, dragging protestors

http://www.startribune.com/politics/27736044.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O%20%3Cimg%20src=

[Muttocracy]

28. Video of conflict up at that link now

[fascisthunter]

11. Amy Goodman Arrested Too... What a Bunch of Nazis Republicans are

scared rich authoritarian losers with power who can't stand public scrutiny. Talk about being balless....

[glitch]

23. Authoritarians are the original WIMPS. They can't even take discussion let alone

confrontation.

[suffragette]

12. They arrested Amy Goodman?

:wtf:

[HEyHEY]

18. We don't know why yet

She may have tresspassed or something. Not defending the cops, but I doubt they bursted into her hotel room or something.

[Hannah Bell]

74. ooooh. "trespassed." stepped out of the "free speech zone".

amy goodman is 51 years old.

[HEyHEY]

83. I'll make a note of it?

[Greyhound]

38. Best guess right now, she was covering the arrests of the communications/reporting

organization. She probably asked questions or pointed out something they were doing that is illegal...

Don't if she's officially under arrest yet.

[HEyHEY]

84. She's not likely to let them get away with that shit, I hope she gives the names

Of the actual arresting officers.

[Cerridwen]

13. Read through the reports in my link - concussion grenades n/t

[Cerridwen]

15. They're also arresting and detaining medics and legal observers

edit to correct - may not be "lawyers" but "legal observers"

[L. Coyote]

17. My impression: Operation Recreate '68 plan is in full-swing and trying to start more protests!

It seems that the Junta authorities are trying to create protests, at this point!

[1776Forever]

19. I saw these gestapo, dressed swat squad cops on MSNBC. Anyone know about a Blackwater connection

I tried to find out yesterday but couldn't come up with anything. But then again it is for the Repub's! My way or the highway - King and Queens of America - Don't even think the Constitution is alive and well! It died under the Bushes and the Cheney's!

[Uncle Joe]

20. Thanks for the update, greyhound.

Kicked and recommended.

[Greyhound]

54. Most welcome. n/t

:kick:

[Cerridwen]

21. Another Update:

UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 17:25.
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MASSIVE ARRESTS HAPPENING ALL OVER - HARD TO KEEP UP. HARRIET ISLAND CONCERTGOERS BEING HANDCUFFED. MASS ARREST AT SPRING AND CHESTNUT. TEAM FROM THE UPTAKE.ORG REPORTEDLY UNDER ARREST. Cops threatening to arrest everybody @ river walk - 300+ ppl inc. medics, legal observers, journalists, concertgoers, kids. Tear gas used. DWTN STP almost entirely blocked off.

[joneschick]

36. I'm monitoring the same news feed

anyone have any news from Harriet Island? My daughter is there for the Take Back Labor Day concert. reports of tear gas and massive arrests. anyone?

[Cerridwen]

39. I'll reply to you so that this thread gets kicked and maybe someone

will read and reply to you.

All I have is what's at the site; which you've already read.


MASSIVE ARRESTS HAPPENING ALL OVER - HARD TO KEEP UP. HARRIET ISLAND CONCERTGOERS BEING HANDCUFFED. MASS ARREST AT SPRING AND CHESTNUT. TEAM FROM THE UPTAKE.ORG REPORTEDLY UNDER ARREST. Cops threatening to arrest everybody @ river walk - 300+ ppl inc. medics, legal observers, journalists, concertgoers, kids. Tear gas used. DWTN STP almost entirely blocked off.

[Greyhound]

48. Does she have a phone with her? They're arresting people over there too. n/t

[joneschick]

53. yes, she's been texting her sister.

apparently it's very difficult for her to get a sense of what's going on in a larger sense. She's ok so far. There are reports of a larger confrontation near the Science Museum. I don't know how near/far that is from the concert area.

[Cerridwen]

55. JOEISONEOFUS!! - can you answer this poster's question?

Sorry for yelling - hoping to get his attention - maybe you can PM him.

In another post he sounded as though he knows his way around - maybe he knows that answer, too.

[Muttocracy]

62. no - I'm not in Twin Cities anymore (used to live there) - trying to contact friends there. nt

[Cerridwen]

65. Thanks for replying Joe. n/t

[Greyhound]

57. Across the river, I believe, that's where the reports of arrests at the concert

came from. Glad she is safe.

[man4allcats]

24. They arrested Amy Goodman?! That does it!

I'm ready to fight! Time to take these goddamn Nazis out! Fucking bastards! I say we just kick their asses. I don't have a plan, but I'm open for suggestion - preferably something a little more direct than voting against them.

[Greyhound]

33. These people might have some suggestions/help. You're area is likely to

be difficult to work in. You're needed, if your willing.

[Cerridwen]

27. Read more from JoeIsOneOfUs' link:

http://www.twincities.com/rnc/ci_10356224?nclick_check=1

Local police and Minnesota National Guard units are using a combination of pepper spray, concussion grenades and tear gas on a group of breakaway protesters gathered on Kellogg Boulevard in downtown St. Paul. The group of about 150 protesters, many thought to be with the group "Funk the War," had been blocking traffic for much of the afternoon.

At least one person — a young man wearing a gas mask, no shirt and a backpack — was taken into custody. He lay down on the street as a group of officers surrounded him and took him away.

Police also escorted a group of 17 mostly black-clad youth across the Robert St. Bridge in an apparent effort to get them out of downtown.

Rubber bullets were fired into a crowd at Seventh and Robert Streets. At Seventh and Jackson, police have more than a dozen people in a parking lot as police handcuff them. Police continued to spray the crowd with pepper spray. More details are to come.

<snip> Lots more at link

[Muttocracy]

34. some of those areas are NOT close to the RNC convention. nt

[Cerridwen]

32. More legal observers arrested:

COMMS RAID
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 17:33.
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comms raid arrests used same warrant as pre-RNC house raids: coldsnap ** 2 more legal observers arrested at spring and shepard

[Muttocracy]

37. kick - won't slow down DU with more photos, but check out STrib and Pioneer Press sites. nt

[mmonk]

40. Video from the uptake (includes Amy)

http://the-uptake.groups.theuptake.org/en/videogalleryView/id/647/

[Greyhound]

45. Link goes to day before yesterday video.

[mmonk]

71. Oops. Yes it does.

[Muttocracy]

44. more video on City Pages site; repeat of the 3 big papers there

City Pages - Twin Cities independent/alternative weekly but they're updating with protest info
http://blogs.citypages.com/gop/

St. Paul Pioneer Press
http://www.twincities.com/

Minneapolis Star Tribune
http://www.startribune.com/

[Cerridwen]

50. cops "terrified" of masked "criminals", so police violence "justified"

UPDATE
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 17:45.
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Chief of St Paul Police: police violence justified because cops "terrified" of masked "criminals" (protesters wearing masks to breath in the face of pepper spray and tear gas)

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COMMS RAID
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 17:33.
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comms raid arrests used same warrant as pre-RNC house raids: coldsnap ** 2 more legal observers arrested at spring and shepard



edit: update subject

[cascadiance]

56. If masked protestors can be called "criminals", can we call the cops "felonious criminals" too,

with weapons in addition to their *armored* masks, and conduct citizen arrests of them AS WELL? This is so f'd up!

I remember Democracy Now and Free Speech TV reports from the Democratic Convention last week also saying that those cops there were unprecedented in not carrying badges or other identifiers of them as law enforcement. If a whole gang of these thugs came up and started storming through the streets (and perhaps are Blackwater and not even cops), aren't they guilty of what they were supposed to be arresting these folks for? There was even more probable cause with them carrying weapons!

[Cerridwen]

63. In another place and another time, perhaps.

This is post 9/11 america. The rules have changed.

:nuke:

[Loge23]

64. Who are those masked men?

Could they be plants?
Why yes, they could.
I mean, why would anyone else go about breaking windows while armed with hammers?
Thousands of people protesting the war and repuke policies and some guys are running around with hammers breaking windows.

[slampoet]

69. No protester would use a hammer. They'd use a dual use stick like a cane.

Or a heavy umbrella. I.E. something they'd have a reason to carry if questioned.

[Hannah Bell]

77. in this photo, guy with hammer breaks window - apparently on his own, only witness a housewife -

& of course, convenient photographer: wtf?

http://www.startribune.com/galleries/27738614.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O <img src=

[countryjake]

51. kick!

[Cerridwen]

59. raw audio link of Amy Goodman arrest

goodman arrest
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 18:10.

for raw audio of situation surrounding amy goodman/DN! arrest:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/01/18531782.php

[RepublicanElephant]

60. yesterday,

amy was asking john mccain's campaign manager at a press conference if they would divert some of the massive corporate funds for the convention to the hurricane victims.

he was not pleased by the question.

[Muttocracy]

66. StarTribune: 10,000 demonstrators flood St. Paul; 53 arrested

http://www.startribune.com/politics/27736044.html?

[Muttocracy]

67. sounds like a few hundred idiots were putting people in danger and smashing property

and the police are cracking down overall - and overreacting.

[Hannah Bell]

82. smashing things? try "a handful," not a hundred.

i was in seattle during wto, quite by accident. tv reports in no way mirrored what i saw that week with my own eyes.

yet, because people had seen the tv reports, they didn't believe me. they "knew" seattle was full of broken windows & property damage. only it wasn't.

[Muttocracy]

68. Article mentioning Amy Goodman by name:

http://origin.twincities.com/rnc/ci_10356273

Police are arresting large groups of protesters today at different locations in St. Paul. At least twelve people were surrounded by police and detained from what looked like a sit-in at Shepard road.

As many as 50 people were arrested near East Seventh and Jackson streets since 5 p.m., including legal observers, street medics and Amy Goodman, host of the radio show 'Democracy NOW!' There was a large bus on site to haul the detainees away.

...

[Cerridwen]

72. Woman repeatedly peppersprayed at close range

video
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 18:13.

video of woman repeatedly peppersprayed at close range -

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/01/18531784.php

[Cerridwen]

73. Amy Goodman - "probable cause to riot"

amy goodman
Submitted by haloka on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 18:28.
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was arrested on probable cause to riot charges! (according to coldsnap) omfg, they're fucking insane! (like we didn't already know)


edit: spelling

[Richard D]

75. Talkin about the wrong person to arrest . . . eom

[orleans]

78. amy goodman was arrested??

on edit:
post on the Minnesota Independent has a link to ColdSnapLegal’s invaluable twitter, which shows a detailed breakdown of prior incidents involving police and protesters that have been happening throughout the day. The twitter shows a report of Democracy Now! journalists being arrested and includes Amy Goodman.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Amy-Goodman-Arrested-At-RN-by-Kevin-Gosztola-080901-693.html

[libnnc]

76. Here's the youtube video of the arrest

don't know if this has been posted yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

unfucking-believable

[Bonobo]

79. kick

[Cerridwen]

80. Coast Guard - incoming

update
Submitted by rechelon on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 18:48.
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police closing bridge to harriet island: city worker says it's to keep protesters out of downtown. ** coldsnap: ~150 people cordoned offby river, app. 50 let go. possibly, out of towners more likely to be targeted. horse, riot, bike cops and coast guard involved. ** 100 people detained by SWAT teams and national guard near or in upper landing park by xcel. ** RUMOR CONTROL: the Coldsnap Legal Office is OK.

[Greyhound]

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