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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:42 PM
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Gots to feel for the unwed father.
An armed mother-of-the bride and the whole country watching.

Now THAT's what I call a shotgun wedding!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:42 PM
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1. They are probably at..
Levi's doorstep as we speak..
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:55 PM
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19. I think they got the name Levi off his pants. n/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:43 PM
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2. 'Snif' I always cry at shotgun weddings. How long since we had one of them at the White House?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:51 PM
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12. Cue Dueling Banjos! take off them shoes, lads & your teeth
my "ladies".....LOL

No offense to Alaska or Alaskans. Just a comment on those who are so staunchly holding young Palin up as the Virgin Mary and her Mom as the incarnated Churchill...:eyes:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:44 PM
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3. I'm not sure I'd say 'no'
to the suggestion of nuptials.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:44 PM
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4. Should have been smart enough not to have unprotected sex with her
I don't really feel sorry for him at all
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:48 PM
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7. I dunno. He's probably a product of the same abstinence only sex ed Bristol got.
I lay the blame at the feet of the stupid ass irresponsible adults in their lives who are delusional enough to think "wait til your married" constitutes sex education. They probably thought if they did it standing up or took a shower right after they were safe.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:53 PM
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16. So kids who get other types of sex ed don't have these problems?
wow.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:59 PM
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22. Kids who get comprehensive sex ed think if they do it standing up they are safe?
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:00 PM by thecatburgler
I don't think so. If they do, it's because they weren't paying attention in the class.

Why are you attacking me? Do you think abstinence-until-marriage only is good sex ed?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:02 PM
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24. Not attacking, just asking
It seems to me the real problem is that teens are getting pregnant no matter which system is used, so maybe it is not as much the system as other issues that we need to address (parents not watching their kids, etc and so on).
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:29 PM
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32. Teen pregnancy is actually much lower than it was in the 50s
The general trend has been downward (with occasional blips), over the past few decades due to contraception and availability of abortion. Teenagers have sex, and have been since the beginning of humankind. The argumentation you are using sounds similar to the abstinence-only camp. "Contraception fails so there's no point in teaching about it." If you believe in abstinence-only, then say so.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:59 PM
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37. Bingo
Too much fugging ignorance is passing for an education. Every single one of my mother's six daughters had sex before marriage and not one of us got pregnant. Mom was so smart that she told us what would create bad memories early - and told us to wait until we left home.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:51 PM
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13. I don't pity him either.
Doin the dirty with the governor's daughter? What would he expect. Someone kid want to try that with one of Arnold's daughters?
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:53 PM
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18. Condoms break.
:shrug:
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:03 AM
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48. Condoms are evil
but less evil than abortion, which is more evil than premarital sex?

I'd love to ask Palin and all the fundies finally capitulating that kids are free agents who 'will do what they want,' would you rather they use birth control, or is teenage, out-of-wedlock pregnancy actually preferable?
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:45 PM
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5. good one
I hear she's a pretty good shot, too....at least from a helicopter
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:46 PM
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6. The kid's probably in a complete panic.
What are the odds that the wedding doesn't happen, particularly if McCain/Palin don't win or Palin withdraws from the Veep nomination?
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:48 PM
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8. The newlyweds' nest will be comfortably feathered by generous monied interests.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:50 PM
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10. That's entirely possible, but it won't make the kid stick around if he doesn't want to.
I hope it works out, though, for the sake of the baby and the two very young people who screwed up.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:29 PM
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40. What are the odds the kid does something desperate "to get out of it"? n/t
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:09 PM
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43. He won't have to after the 'miscarriage'.
.....just sayin.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:49 PM
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9. No sympathy here. Allow a woman to have your sperm you have to be responsibile for what can happen.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 07:33 PM by RGBolen
If he didn't want the possibility of this, he should not have allowed her to have his sperm.


on edit: changed a phrase because it had confused someone.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:51 PM
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11. Keep that good thought for when Griswold is overturned and contraceptives are illegal once again.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:53 PM
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15. do you feel the same way about abortion?
:shrug:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:55 PM
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21. Yes, she has the choice to do what she wants with her body. He had the choice to prevent her from

having something from his body.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:00 PM
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23. Just wondering, cause the RW says the same thing about why abortion should be illegal
You know where babies come from, do the crime do the time...
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:03 PM
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25. In that situation it's if she allows it to go to term and doesn't give it to someone
then she has to take care of it. Just like the choice he made, he allowed her to have something and he is responsible for it. If she allows it to be born and doesn't give it up she is responsible for it.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:07 PM
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26. I can hang with that
:)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:22 PM
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29. Age of consent in Alaska is 16, so no crime has been commited. Does that piss you off? -nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:22 PM
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30. Couldn't care.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:27 PM
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31. Then why the word "crime?"
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:30 PM
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33. I'm sorry, it was just a phrase. I will change it. I'm so very, very sorry.

I really didn't mean for you to go through any misunderstanding over it. I'm sorry that happened. I'm sorry I caused that for you. Really, I'm very sorry to have done that to you.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:51 PM
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14. I ain't marryin you woman!
Oh no?!? Mah momma is here the Gov'nor and she'll shoot you as soon as she did shoot that poh'lar bear!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:53 PM
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17. I was thinking
how, for a girl, sex at that age isn't that really wonderful thing it becomes as you get familiar and comfortable with your body as you grow up. There's not a whole lot of technique when you're sixteen, seventeen years of age. For the boy, it's wonderful just to be getting laid. For a girl, it's a bit more complicated than that.

Now, the kid has the pregnancy, childbirth, and taking care of an infant to look forward to. It's like she never really had a chance. I hope she gets the chance. It's so unfair for a child to be trapped by the rigid and dangerous beliefs of the parents. What if the boy were HIV-positive?

It's just a heartbreaking situation all around, and all those people who think abstinence is such a peach idea should be ashamed of themselves.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:55 PM
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20. there is no choice here
none whatsoever
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:12 PM
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27. Have they named the father? Is "Levi" the dad or the baby?
Are they auditioning for the part of "Dad" now?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:18 PM
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28. I have a feeling they are already married. Check out this DU post with Pic of Levi!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:32 PM
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34. Oh right.
What would possibly drive Palin to say her daughter is planning to marry if she was already married?
And how on Earth does Levi's photo show he is already married.
By the way the girl holding baby Trig is not Bristol.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:52 PM
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35. Yes, right. There were reports yesterday that Bristol is wearing a wedding band (& I know that isn't
Bristol). Levi's sister is also calling Palin mommy-in-law and Trig her brother. Seems kind of like a joined family to me.

Link to one report of Bristol wearing a wedding band. There was a thread on DU yesterday that discussed it too.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/bristol-is-preg.html

Bristol Is Pregnant

01 Sep 2008 12:29 pm

So that explains the wedding ring
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:56 PM
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36. If Bristol and Levi were married, why would the campaign say they're not? NT
NT
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:03 PM
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38. Palin was hiding the fact that her teenage HS daughter was pregnant, and it
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 08:04 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
still doesn't look good if she had a high school teenage daughter pregnant and married to another teenager. That might be something that she intended to hide also. As to saying that they will be married...she would have egg on her face that she never told anyone they were married in the first place.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:29 PM
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45. See my post #44
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 PM
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44. Scroll down. Levi's sister calls Bristol her sister-in-law
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:49 PM
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46. Yes, and she also called Trig her brother.
Trig is not her brother, and I sincerely doubt Sarah Palin is her mother in law.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:59 PM
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47. If she considers Palin her mom-in-law (and called her that)she would consider Trig her brother.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 12:00 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:04 PM
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39. I do. And the young mother
They don't deserve to be thrown into the national spotlight.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:07 PM
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41. I feel sorry for both of these kids.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:08 PM
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42. me too and i feel especially bad for the girl, can you imagine being brought up
with Abstinence only and creationism all the time? It's oppressive.
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