I may be unpopular with this Idea but Can't we leave the Palin Kids out of This?!!!

[redirish28]

I mean I see threads about IF the Boy's name who May have gotten the 17 year old Pregnant. The Middle girl's my space page.


Think back to when you where their age. Think about some of the "Crazy" maybe "dumb" stuff you did.

Now image the whole country placing a magnifying mirror to your life. Isn't being a teenager hard enough as is?


Sarah Palin's OWN actions and policies are enough to prove how wrong she would be as VP in this country.

Do we have to sink so low as Repug standards and drag the kids into this?

[stray cat]

1. I still see this is as a sideline issue and one Obama won't touch

[DontTreadOnMe]

2. wtf?

"Think about some of the "Crazy" maybe "dumb" stuff you did."

My daughter's future is on the line with the next Presidential election.
You throw a bean ball at my pitcher, and I am going to return a fastball to your face.
There is way too much at stake here. If you want to "play nice", join a bowling league.

[brmdp3123]

6. Well, that was certainly a pleasant response!

[redirish28]

9. How is dragging the children into all this going to help your daughter

Talk about Palin's policies NOT her children

[Tallison]

34. Because Palin's kid illustrates the lunacy of her own platform

she wants to inject into public policy. If the value she brings to the ticket is one of conservative mores, the irony is wide open for discourse.

[avaistheone1]

20. When I think of the crazy and dumb stuff I did - I know it is absolutely critical that teens be

armed with more than Just Say No education.

Look out that is working in the Palin family?

[emilyg]

3. It certainly would be nice if

followed Obama's lead.

[arthritisR_US]

4. the Governor is an evangelical nut bag who wants only abstinence taught

in schools not sex ed and is opposed to birth control...well, look how wonderful that is working for her so I say it's fair game.

[hedgehog]

12. Talking about the Governor being against sex education, birth control

and evolution is fine, but going after the kids is exposing youngsters to the world's glare. What if one of Obama's kids was caught pocketing a stick of gum? I did that when I was 6 (alright, it was a box of cracker jacks!)


Mom's views : Open for discussion

Kids' lives: off-limits

[DemoRabbit]

5. It MATTERS

"Isn't being a teenager hard enough as is?"

Her MOM should have thought of that FIRST before thrusting her into the spotlight herself!

It's RELEVANT because of Palin's her stance on taking sex-education out of our schools in favor of abstinence only! That policy isn't even working in her OWN home.

It's not about sinking low this time... it's actually a relevant topic to be discussing!

[redirish28]

7. Okay I can see talking about the topic but I have seen so many

cruel and just thoughtless things all over the net today that would have made me feel like killing myself if I was in the 17 year old state and reading some of the things said about me.

[DemoRabbit]

15. Again, blame her mom for that first

since she's the one that decided to take this nomination for VP and put her and her whole family in the spotlight.

I bet it wasn't nice to be Hillary either during the whole Monica thing. It comes with the territory.

[Growler]

27. I totally agree with you!

I think it is fair to question Palin's parenting skills/choices, without dragging the kids through the dirt. Palin's questionable world choices DO reflect on the person who picked her for VP.

[Stephist]

8. How Many Times Does It Have To Be Explained Why This IS An Issue?

It's not about the baby, it's not about the daughter. It's about the hypocrisy of a person who is running for Vice President as a the worlds greatest Mom with all of her Dobson talking points in hand. In Palin world the reason why your child got pregnant and had a baby was because you were evil and unchristian. The reason her daughter got pregnant is the media did it. This is not about being mean or going after the baby. This about pointing out how phony Sarah Palin is.

[redirish28]

10. SO it is okay to step on the feelings and emotions of a 17 year old

girl to make your point about her mother's political view?


I think Palin's actions -If that story is true-- about her being in Texas and refusing to go to the hospital to give birth safely speaks more to her political point of view than a 17 year old getting knocked up!

[avaistheone1]

13. IF Palin thought that were true for a moment would she actually run for office?

Sarah Palin must have evaluated that before accepting the vp nomination and decided she and her daughter could stand up to such scrutiny and limelight.

If Palin can't stand the heat now she should get out of the kitchen - especially when all the world can see how her abstinence only program works in the microcosm of her own family.

Remember she is playing with the lives of all teenage girls and boys if you will, with her draconian policies. These futile policies don't look very practical when we see the havoc it is causing in her own family.

[redirish28]

19. But the 17 year old CAN'T get out of the Kitchen and do you think

Parents who run for office TRULY think of how it effects their children?

maybe it is the corrupt town I live in but from examples I have seen they don't!

[avaistheone1]

25. No one is attacking Bristol, nor is anyone asking that Bristol give a press conference and explain

herself. Although Bristol has been public view to some degree ever since her mother took public office, and limelight tends to shine more on a candidates' children the higher degree of office the candidate aspires to.

[Bluebear]

16. Fine, if Bristol is here at Democratic Underground getting her feelings hurt, I regret it.

But I don't think she is.

[alittlelark]

31. HER mother did that - today.

Her mother could have released her medical records and none of this would have happened......
The miscarriage will be????



But then they are the Dominionist 'family values' crowd.

[Chovexani]

11. If it's really about her mother

Then leave her the fuck out of it. Cut out this bullshit with the MySpace photos and the fake baby registries and the jokes about how she's the only thing to "do" in Alaska besides hunt. Stop making fun of this child whose only crime was being born to a fundie wackjob. Stop stoning the "teenage Jezebel".

Cut it the fuck out. Bristol Palin is not running for office, her mother is.

[Stephist]

17. Yes You Are Right

Don't Point out the hypocrisy of Palin's abstinence only beliefs or the fact that she is preaching to you on how to raise your kids. Hell don't say anything about her at all. She's off the table. She's only running for the second highest office in the land...but don't say nothing against her. Just don't do it.

And you wonder why Democrats continue to lose elections?

[Chovexani]

21. Please answer me this.

How does "she's the only thing in Alaska to do besides hunting" elect a fucking Democrat?

How does posting MySpace photos THAT AREN'T EVEN HERS elect a fucking Democrat?

How does spreading unsubstantiated smears that have repeatedly been debunked elect a fucking Democrat?

How does publically stoning a sixteen year old girl on the Internet elect a fucking Democrat?

You disgust me. You and your ilk are nothing but Limbaughs and Savages colored blue.

[Marr]

23. I honestly haven't seen ANY of that.

I've seen a lot of talk about Palin, the VP candidate, and what *her* actions say about her as a person.

I'm willing to accept your assertion that the type of off-color comments you describe have been made, but that doesn't describe the overall flavor of the discussions I've been reading.

[Stephist]

24. Answer Me This?

Where did I say any of those things? And since I don't know anything about you other than your nonstop don't say anything against Sarah Palin posts I can't say whether you disgust me or not. Your posts are pretty disgusting though.

[Marr]

22. No kidding.

I know what you mean. I'm having trouble reconciling two different lines of thought I see repeatedly around here.

The first is the American public is so stupid/ignorant/busy that they end up voting based on rumors, smears, and personal attacks.

The second is that we should play nice and talk about policies, not get personal.

Well, which is it? Do you want to be an immaculate loser or a slightly muddy winner?

[Stephist]

It's A Losing Battle

I am not for dragging the 17 year old through the mud either although her Mother is. All I am trying to do is point out why this is an issue, why this DOES speak to what kind of candidate Sarah Palin is but everything about her is apparently off limits. I do not get it and I never will. I love the fact that this person whom I disgust, though I don't know her, blames me for making this girl the issue. Sorry I don't have Sarah Palin on speed dial and I didn't even know she was before last week. It was her decision to run for public office and make her daughter an issue. I had nothing to do with it.

[avaistheone1]

18. I agree. And if Sarah thought it was about her family or Bristol,

she should not be running for vp.

[Bluebear]

14. !!!?? !!!!11

[roody]

26. Let's talk about puppy killing.

Wolf puppies in their den, and aerial killing of wolves.

[Tallison]

35. It's manlier to kick them

Eliminates the unfair advantage of firearms.

[Aristus]

28. Bristol should have thought of all that before she got pregnant.

Of course, thinking is such an exotic, alien thing for people like her, so maybe we should cut her some slack there; OTOH, her mother is an 'abstinence-only' freakazoid...so Bristol should have known better. I'd say screw her, but that ship has sailed...

[DeadManInc]

29. It is not about the daughter.

It is about the right wing ideology that abstinence only is the best way. Here you have the holy roller that cannot even get the program to work in her own home. They act like the own the market on family values. They make me sick. :puke:

[Stephist]

30. Let me just say...

Thank you! is that tough to understand?

[BoneDaddy]

32. NO

And my reasoning is such. Do not run on the "family values" ticket if you may have potentially lied about your 5th child (suspect) or whitewashed your 17 year old daughter's current pregnancy. When her "feminist" policies are put in place, will she care about women who have children on their own? Bristol Palin has a whole machine behind her to support her, most women do not. Sadly, this young woman will be dragged through the mud and that is shameful, but this is the nature of the current political system. And again it would not be an issue for me if her positions were in direct contrast with what is occurring in her own family.

[TahitiNut]

33. Sarah "Special Right To Privacy" Palin should have thought about that.

Sarah Palin seems to think there's a right to privacy when it comes to her and her children but not when it comes to deciding Rove vs. Wade. How can the affairs of teen-agers be 'private' but every other woman's womb be subject to PUBLIC scrutiny and laws?? Sarah Palin seems to be proud of the "personal responsibility" crowd but doesn't seem to know what it means when it comes to parenting. (Joe Biden did in 1972 and does now.) Anti-choice, anti-contraception and pro-abstinence .. she neither demonstrates abstinence nor does she demonstrate teaching it. Palin believes in the "Sanctity of Marriage" but also engages in vigilantism when it comes to her sister's SECOND failed marriage.

Sarah Palin dragged her brood out in front of the cameras, not anyone else! Complain to HER! She's irresponsible and a fucking hypocrite.

[Fluffdaddy]

36. If this was the other way around the wing-nuts would all over Obama's girls

They would not even think twice