I'm fading fast and I have "real" work to get done - could use help finding

[Cerridwen]

answer, please.

I'm trying to find in MN state statutes, "incite to riot" or "probable cause to riot". Maybe it's local law?

I've found riot in the statutes but that is for someone who has actually done something; not something who is documenting, observing, or walking past. Nor is it someone who is gathered to protest; even if the "authorities" call protest, riot.

Can someone help me find the statute? I have the most recent numbers for the arrests and I'm trying to find if "incite to riot" (shouldn't rush be arrested?) or "probably cause to riot" are misdemeanors or felonies.

[Breeze54]

1. MN: Examples of disorderly conduct can include public drunkenness, inciting a riot,

Minnesota Disorderly Conduct Lawyer

http://www.bulmerlaw.com/disorderly-conduct-lawyers.html

Disorderly conduct is the crime of engaging in a brawl or fight; disturbing an assembly or meeting; or engaging in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous or noisy conduct or in offensive, obscene or abusive language that arouses alarm, anger or resentment in others.

The crime of disorderly conduct is often viewed as a catch-all type of crime to prosecutors. Many different actions by individuals can be viewed by overzealous prosecutors as being criminal. Common examples include: yelling at someone in bar; throwing a snowball at a neighbor kid; and giving someone the “bird” in public.

While it may seem that many actions appear criminal to a prosecutor, but trivial to you and I, the crime of disorderly conduct can carry serious penalties.

Examples of disorderly conduct can include public drunkenness, inciting a riot, disturbance of the peace, loitering in certain areas, fighting, physical altercations, obstructing traffic, use of extremely obscene or abusive language, loud or unreasonable noise.

Penalties

Consequences for a person convicted of a disorderly conduct crime include, but are not limited to: local jail time, fines, probation, restitution, and community service.

Additional consequences can befall people working in human services industries. Many employers have specific policies prohibited their employees from engaging in disorderly conduct both at work and away from the job. Violations of such policies can be grounds for termination.

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2007 Minnesota Statutes

Chapter - 615 ---- Title - Offenses Against Public Peace

https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statutes/?view=part&start=609&close=624

Results for: disturbing the peace
Document count: the (577164) disturbing (8688) peace (8084) disturbing the peace (80)

[Cerridwen]

4. Pretty vague description, isn't it?

Rather open to interpretation.

Doesn't say if misdemeanor or felony. I'm thinking "no fly" lists and such.


Thank you for your help.

[Breeze54]

7. Probably a misdemeanor

;)

[Cerridwen]

I sure hope so.

Thanks again. :hi:

[Breeze54]

9. Ask Larry Craig !!

:rofl:

[billyoc]

2. MN is a national security event, the local and state laws don't apply.

The state and local authorities answer to the federal security(secret service) and who knows what law applies. Patriot Act?

[ddeclue]

3. Constitution is the "decider"..not Bush or the Patriot Act...

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[Cerridwen]

6. I see you, too have the same pre-9/11 mindset I do.

It would seem you and I need to "get with the post-9/11 program."

:nuke:

edit for word

[Cerridwen]

5. Good point.

JoeIsOneOfUs noted in another thread that some of the arrests were happening a ways away from the convention area. I wonder how far that "national security event" web spreads?

[Breeze54]

8. No... it's local to MN n/t

[htuttle]

10. Arresting someone on "probable cause" of anything is sort of a ruse

Probable cause is used more often to gain access to a potential crime scene to find something REAL to bust someone on -- not as the charge they are arrested for

To me, it makes it obvious that they basically just wanted to remove her and her crew from the scene.

But we knew that already...

[Cerridwen]

11. I believe it was also the justification used for pre-emptive raids

around the city.

They're using rather loose legal justifications; it's astounding to see.