Levi Johnston (father of Bristol's baby); On his website "I don't want kids"

[rainbow4321]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/09/palin-daughters-babydaddy-some-dude-named-levi-reports-enqui.php

UPDATE: The New York Daily News has more, as does the New York Post, which mentions this gem:

On his MySpace page, Johnston boasts, "I'm a f - - -in' redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.

"But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just f - - -in' chillin' I guess."

"Ya f - - - with me I'll kick ass," he added.

He also claims to be "in a relationship," but states, "I don't want kids."



http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008/news/nationalnews/palin_admits_her_17_year_old_daughter_is_127025.htm

[mth44sc]

1. ENOUGH!

nt

[alittlelark]

27. As soon as she drops out 'for family reasons'

it will be.

[ComplimentarySwine]

42. Would that really be best at this point?

Do you really believe that they have a chance at winning this if she DOESN'T drop out?

[lonestarnot]

63. Well in that noone else will run with Lumpy, I suppose he could go down on Main Street with a sign

that says, "RUN FOR FOOD, I'LL BUY."

[MoeHayNow]

96. Why enough?

This could well be the Repugs undoing and I'm all for that.

[AlCzervik]

2. ok what is he, 18? I didn't think about kids at that age is and he's a smack talker, not new

for teenagers.

[avaistheone1]

7. Someone on this board posted he is 26 years old!!

[AlCzervik]

9. eh, i don't think that's true, i think he's maybe 18 and likes to talk shit.

[arthritisR_US]

43. how can he be 18 if he got a DUI 24 yrs ago? n/t

[Sanctified]

58. That was Bristols Dad not her Boyfriend. n/t

[norepubsin08]

91. Actually

you might be talking about the same person there!

[arthritisR_US]

102. thnx, makes more sense now. n/t

[Regret My New Name]

67. Using directionally free temporal transport technology... duhh.

[Matariki]

89. you!

:spray:

[StClone]

17. Alaska Law

http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/11/07/alaska-age-of-consent-laws/

[shanti]

80. yes

he sounds like the average 18 year old....but they need to put a muzzle on him or something. cat's out of the bag now tho.

[norepubsin08]

90. it shows the kind of company

people in that family keep..Bristol is old enough to know the importance of appearances for a political family such as hers. Shows poor judgement by her and poor parenting by Palins

[Fridays Child]

3. They can't force him to marry her--I hope.

He's not ready. It wil be a life of hell for Bristol.

[Bluebear]

5. You kidding? Those people pack heat! Will be a helluva shotgun wedding.

[peekaloo]

12. He's being sized up for his wolf pelt as we type.

[TahitiNut]

16. Shotgun weddings have a very long tradition. (Why do you think Sarah Palin practices?)

:rofl:

[Lars39]

23. Makes you wonder if that wasn't the purpose of Palin's announcement.

Doesn't leave him much wiggle room.

[avaistheone1]

41. Really good point.

[orleans]

77. but how do we know this kid is really the father?

on edit:
ok--so we know this much
"According to http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=216482927 (now set to private)

"Details
Status: In a Relationship
Here for: Friends
Orientation: Straight
Hometown: WASILLA
Body type: 5' 8" / Athletic
Zodiac Sign: Taurus
Children: I don't want kids
Education: High school

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/09/palin-daughters-babydaddy-some-dude-named-levi-reports-enqui.php

but how do we know he's the father??

[dysfunctional press]

35. especially not after the miscarriage...

nt

[Fridays Child]

46. ?

[MiniMe]

50. The one that

many on DU think is sure to happen in the next month or 2.

[dysfunctional press]

61. well- before she'd be required to be "showing"...and definitely before the selection...

if the sarahcuda is still on the ticket.

it's the kind of october surprise that could generate a LOT of sympathy voting.

remember- rove's an evil genius.

[LisaL]

76. She is already showing.

I believe that's why they had to reveal she was pregnant.

[orleans]

79. she is? i thought they revealed it because they didn't want the

enquirer to break the story

[dysfunctional press]

95. have you got a link to a pic of that...?

i haven't seen any pics where she's showing.

[Roy]

66. But they can pay him to pretend til after the election

[marlakay]

83. they can tell him to go along with it and anull it later nt

[TahitiNut]

4. I guess the shotgun changed his mind.

:rofl:

[KoKo]

8. Yep...his MIL who loves to kill them Caribou and other critters and Big John

plus the whole Wolf Pack of Repugs just decided that kid Levi would have to "come on board." I'll bet Levi got a sizeable bonus to go along with that shotgun... :eyes:

[seemslikeadream]

15. yea

[orleans]

81. that's hysterical! lol. n/t

[JohnnyLib2]

6. Wow, different last name for Levi than on a prior GD:P thread.

Somebody better be checking the libel/slander laws.....

[KoKo]

13. Don't tease...what's his other name...or give linkie, please....

[Pastiche423]

47. The last name I read earlier was "Miller"

A Levi Miller also has a myspace page. The link was posted today.

[LisaL]

48. I don't think that is the right guy.

[Pastiche423]

57. I don't know who the right guy is

I was answering KoKo's question.

The link to a myspace page w/godawful music is here:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=244796355

levi miller

"''By the grace of god, I was given a job.""

Male
18 years old
WASILLA, Alaska
United States



Last Login: 9/1/2008

[orleans]

86. that's not him. did you look at the little movie? i didn't see bristol in

any of the pictures--and this kid has a ton of them

[Pastiche423]

94. Again, I was only answering KoKo's question in this thread

Further, I stated that I did not know if he was the right guy.

[JohnnyLib2]

49. Yup.

no links from me; borderline libelous

[Pastiche423]

59. What is "borderline libelous"?

[Catherine Vincent]

10. Rednecks way up there in Alaska eh?

And he's proud to be one.

[chatnoir]

11. If the "f****** redneck' didn't want kids

why didn't he use protection? Its not rocket science.

[TahitiNut]

18. Maybe it's against his religion? Or hers? Or not covered in Sex Ed?

:rofl:

[Dr.Phool]

38. Use what?

:dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

[MiniMe]

53. It's not taught in abstinence only education

:eyes:

[chatnoir]

64. They're already breaking the abstinence rule

Just don't know why they wouldn't go the extra mile, esp as he specially states not wanting kids.

[RB TexLa]

14. Maybe for the wedding instead of the tux pants he'll "just wear ma black wranglers."

[madmax]

19. Potty mouth, too.

:rofl:

[madmax]

20. If she were my daughter

I wouldn't want her to marry this guy. The handwriting is already on the wall.

[yojon]

28. Hmm not much choice

1. He marries her OR
2. He meets with an unfortunate accident

Dont see other options

[DemoRabbit]

21. Interesting Web Stuff

There appears to be a LeviJohnston.com but I can't access it...

If you go to google and look it up, and then clicked on "cached pages" you can get some of the content... It appears it was online for a while (since at least 2006) but looks like it's been pulled down...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+site:levijohnston.com+%22Levi+Johnston%22

Make sure you click on "cached" in the results...

[Seen the light]

30. It was up earlier, nothing that interesting on it n/t

[MadrasT]

34. never mind - deleted

(don't want to pick on the kids)

[Duer 157099]

40. Not the same guy

Poor guy with unfortunate name. He's in Phoenix, different Levi.

[Zookeeper]

72. LeviJohnston.com is a parody site....

http://levijohnston.com/Blog/?page_id=5

It seemed pretty unlikely that a real blog or MySpace page would still be available.

[Jack Rabbit]

22. He sounds like a typical teenager

He has a complete disconnect between his acts and their consequences.

Kid, if you're going to play that kind of game, don't fuck the governor's daughter.

[ColbertWatcher]

24. Put the kid on suicide watch.

Seriously.

How many lives does Sarah Palin need to ruin to satisfy her vanity?

[Contrary1]

25. He's on the school hockey team!

Now she can claim that she's a hockey grand-mom too.

Sorry, just had to. :spank:

[JackBeck]

26. Dumb.

If I had a myspace page when I was 18 I would have said I was straight and wanted a house with a picket fence.

Are we seriously trying to rake an 18 over the coals for what they posted on their myspace page? Do you still hold the same beliefs and views on life that you did when you were 18?

[kimmylavin]

62. Of course not.

But I wasn't facing parenthood, either.

I feel bad for ALL of those kids: the two who are going to have to get married to satisfy a constituency, and the one they're going to be raising.

[Regret My New Name]

68. I was far more mature when I was 18 than I am now. :P

[Binka]

70. Good God Damn I Knew What I Wanted And Would Have Gotten There

Except my parents kept telling me I was full of shit. So I settled and 30 years later I am trying to get back to it.

[SheilaT]

29. To lend a little perspective here

I have a nephew who is nineteen, and his 18 year old girlfriend just gave birth to my sister's first grandchild.

There's no wacko fundamentalism here, just two young people whose hormones and biological imperatives got the best of them. I don't think they are planning on marrying, and I don't see this as a stable long term relationship. But there's a third person involved, the new baby who was just born. This kind of thing happens pretty much every day, to fundamentalists and atheists alike. Birth control fails, or isn't used, and a pregnancy results. We all need to be honoring and cherishing the new lives involved.

I have two sons. And the fact that they haven't so far fathered any children isn't a source of moral superiority. It just is. While I sincerly hope my sons marry before they start a family (and I've told them that numerous times)if it works out differently isn't a moral failing on my part or their part.

In the end we are all children of, whatever. Some would say God. Some would invoke something else or nothing else. But we are all equal in whatever ir is that runs things.

[truthstudent]

52. Agreed... but,

I assume we don't go on record condemning the choices of
others.  I am sad and afraid for these two children I don't
know, as I would be for any two children in their position. 
They are children after all, and as the daughter of a 15 year
old mother, I know the realities of growing up to a mother who
was not ready for the realities of the life she
"chose".  If you cannot accept that Levi was
speaking his own wisdom on his myspace page because he is
young and hormones got the best of him, how can he (or Bristol
for that matter) be capable of speaking anything more or less
when the eyes of the world are watching and her mother's life
ambitions hang in the balance?  I honor the fact that she is
pregnant, but claim dishonor to John and Sarah for
politicizing her pregnancy.  I pray for Bristol and her child,
for where will all these fair weather supporters be at 3:00 in
the morning when she needs to wake up for a fourth feeding? 
Not holding her hand and telling her it will be alright, I can
promise you.  If Sarah loves her child, she should withdraw
and be there for her daughter (and her 4 month old special
needs child) in this time of family crisis.

[SheilaT]

92. You are right, of course.

All of these things matter. How old are parents were, how old we were when becoming parents.

In a more neutral setting, I have often told others that the spacing of children is important and also we will make whatever spacing we wind up with work for us. My two sons were born a little more than four years apart. I was initially concerned they would have nothing in common and never get along. As it turned out, they're about as close as brothers can be and get along quite well.

And yes, I also worry about specific situations. My great-nephew that I referred to above -- his mother comes from a couple of generations of women who have had children at a young age, often not married. My nephew wants very much to be involved in his son's life, but the mother holds ultimate control.

I have long told my own two sons that it may not be fair, but in the end a woman has the ultimate control over whether or not a baby is born, and whether or not the father has any involvement in that child's life.

Personally, I was a stay-at-home mom, and very glad I could be one. Mu older son turned out to be a special needs child. For many years I knew I had to invest a lot of time and energy in him, and it wasn't until his senior year in high school that I realized he was mildly autistic, had Asperger's Syndrome. There are still on-going challenges, but this is NOTHING like Down's Syndrome or many other things.

I just wish our culture were more understanding and supportive of stay-at-home parents, and that there wasn't such a negative connotation put upon staying at home to raise children, nor on the other side, working outside the home.

It enrages me that women who work -- and I don't care if they or their husbands make millions of dollars or a whole lot less -- that those women are condemned as bad mothers. It also makes me crazy that our entire school system assumes that there is a full time stay-at-home parent available at all times, especially if schools are closed because of bad weather. The school year itself, bot to mention the school day in microcosm, assumes a stay-at home parent (mother). During all those years when I was happily and willingly a stay-at-home mom, every time there was a weather cancellation, or an early closing for any reason, it made me crazy when I thought of the many working moms and dads out there. Keep in mind that I had a working mother in the 1950's, when almost no mons worked outside the home. Probably that's what made me so very sensitive. And so while I am happy and grateful that I could be a full time stay at home mom I have always understood that it's not the choice or even the possibility of all women.

Which brings me back to Sarah Palin. While it's easy to criticize her decision to work outside the home. and even easier to start pointing the finger because her 17 year old daughter is pregnant, I know how little control we have over our children's lives and behaviors. My younger son was picked up for possession of marijuana the summer before his senior year of high school. Things were so bad that for about two months in the spring of his senior year he left home and moved in with a friend. We weren't actually sure where he'd gone, although we correctly guessed (as we found out several months later) where he'd gone. It was a very difficult and stressful time. He eventually returned home, graduated from high school, and went off to college.

He is now a senior at the University of Tulsa, will graduate cum laude, has been dating a wonderful young lady he met during orientation. I don't know how we got so lucky that things have turned out so well, except that we started with truly strong values, and let him return home when the worst was over. Sometimes things can seem so bad, and then they turn out all right.

I am so sorry that so many hear are being so condemnatory of Bristol Palin's pregnancy. Mistakes happen. Pregnancies happen. But it
is not the end of the world.

[FedUpWithIt All]

97. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[Alwayshere]

31. The media will have a field day with this story

They love drama. And so do I, to be honest, hehe.

[Name removed]

32. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[EC]

33. Why would he say he didn't want kids?

I'm thinking he knew she was pregnant and was going to break up with her...

[LisaL]

39. Well, he is only 18,

Himself basically a child.
I doubt many young men that age are ready to have a family complete with children.

[EC]

51. Yeah I agree there but most boys and young men don't bother even

to vocalize that unless asked or are letting someone in particular know...

[electricmonk]

71. It's a question on the MySpace profile page

I can't remember but that might be the default answer since it's the first one.

Children:
I don't want kids
Love kids, but not for me
Undecided
Someday
Expecting
Proud parent
No Answer

[marlakay]

84. i'm pretty sure its the default one nt

[seabeyond]

36. should have used that condom. i mean... n/t

[MiniMe]

54. That isn't taught in abstinence only education

:eyes:

[seabeyond]

55. maybe not but kids are still aware. easy enough to figure out. n/t

[LisaL]

37. He himself is a kid. No surprise there.

[TexasObserver]

44. Bad news for Levi. Dick Cheney's going to be his best man.

And the song for the happy couple:

WHITE WEDDING, by Billy Idol.

Enjoy ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AofzLsvTsM0

[workinclasszero]

56. LOL! Republican Family Values at their best!

[lonestarnot]

60. Certainly bad news for Levi!

:rofl:

[yellowcanine]

45. It that is correct, it is a mistake for those two kids to get married.

[Critters2]

75. But Bristol has already "chosen" to marry him. Lucky guy. nt

[romulusnr]

65. He has a website too

http://levijohnston.com/Blog/

God I hope this isn't a hoax. It doesn't look like it. The domain's been around a while, but it looks like it was previously registered to someone with the same name in Phoenix AZ, of all places.

Anyway, the younger Levi appears to be on the Wasilla hockey team, but I don't see him listed on the roster, unless Levi's not his first name.

http://www.hometeamsonline.com/teams/default.asp?u=WASILLAWARRIORHOCKEY&t=c&s=hockey&p=roster&rsort=playername#dt_r

[Regret My New Name]

69. looks like a hoax by just reading the content, to be honest...

Also, http://web.archive.org/web/*/levijohnston.com

Considering the domains has been registered to the same person for the past five years and is registered until 2010 or somethign like that, I doubt there was any sort of transfers.

[Zookeeper]

73. The site contains a disclaimer stating that it is a parody...

http://levijohnston.com/Blog/?page_id=5

[amandabeech]

74. He may have graduated in June.

One of the NY papers reported that. What he's doing now, no clue, except of course fishing and being a redneck.

Maybe since he's famous, some college will give him a hockey scholarship, provided he's managed a 2.0.

[shanti]

78. hoo boy

it gets uglier by the day :eyes:

[RamboLiberal]

82. Story on NY Daily News

He's a superhunky bad-boy ice hockey player from cold country; she's a chestnut-haired beauty and popular high school senior.

The all-American teen twosome will make GOP vice presidential pick and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin a grandma at age 44 - just in time for Christmas.

Doe-eyed Bristol Palin, 17, and ruggedly handsome Levi Johnston, an 18-year-old self-described "f---in' redneck," have been dating a year, locals in Wasilla, Alaska, told the Daily News.

And the pregnancy? An open secret in the close-knit town of 9,780.

Bristol Palin, now a senior, was frequently seen cheering her young beau from the stands. Levi is also a senior.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/2008/09/01/2008-09-01_bristol_palins_pregnancy_was_an_open_sec.html

[Agent William]

85. Trailor Trash...

Can you imagine this family living in the Naval Observatory?? Destroying Al Gores' memorabilia and playing in Dick Cheney's bunker... oh the horror.

Please America... not this time.

[orleans]

87. this is weird

from a link from your link--has pictures up from levi's sister's myspace page:


there is a pic of her (mercedes) holding the baby and underneath it says:
“My self and my new baby brother, TriggyBear:) Most adorable little man ever”

"????????????????????????????????????????????
http://cajunboy.tumblr.com/

and this from the above link:

“Mommy Inlaw, Trig and Myself“…from the Myspace page of a girl named Mercede, who happens to be the sister of the father of Bristol Palin’s baby. Are Bristol and Levi already married? Or is “Mommy Inlaw” just a term of endearment?

[prayin4rain]

93. wow, that is weird. n/t

[Matariki]

88. That's what birth control is for, son

or are your parents 'abstinence only' fundie nuts too?

Sorry for you.

[SammyWinstonJack]

98. Too bad about that shot gun wedding he's headed for .

[galaxy21]

99. 'Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!'

Springer: And now its time for my final thought.....if you daughter gets knocked up by a dumb, foul mouthed redneck who'd not ready for marraige, hates kids, and is likely only interested in your family's cash...you shouldn't pressure your daughter into marrrying him to save face for all your right wing, ultra conservative fanbase. Hey. maybe you should have taught her to use condoms to avoid this situation in the first place!

[SammyWinstonJack]

101. LOL! Hey Maybe Tom Arnold can give them a "Red Neck Wedding!.

:yoiks:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

100. Kick!

[orleans]

103. . n/t