WAR WARNING

[annabanana]

Isn't it nice to know that Dick Cheney is running around all the satellite states keeping things calm?

As the attention of the America public is focused on the American election, with the Democratic Convention having just ended, and the announcement today of McCain's female running mate, and the Republican Convention next week, the public has missed something. Something not missed by Europeans, even mainstream European news media have given broad coverage to the story. Just a minor story, really, no need to turn your attention away from the political puff that is American electoral politics. Just something about Russia (you know the big country with tens of thousands of nuclear weapons and advanced delivery systems) and a clear WAR WARNING TO NATO.


In what is the most serious international crisis since the Cuban Missile Crisis almost caused World War III forty-five years ago, Russia has issued a War Warning to NATO and America. "If NATO suddenly takes military actions against Abkhazia and South Ossetia, acting solely in support of Tbilisi, this will mean a declaration of war on Russia," said the Russian Ambassador to NATO, Mr. Dmitry Rogozin. Further, Russia is making it clear that military assistance to Georgia will be considered an act of war. Ambassador Rogozin likened the current crisis to the fevered diplomatic atmosphere in Europe just before the start of the First World War. World War I was said to start when "the lights went out in the chancelleries of Europe" and diplomatic measures failed.

`snip`

The Bush Administration funded a buildup of the Georgian Army and recently sent about a thousand US Marines to train the Georgian troops. Israel and the United States sold a large amount of military technology and hardware to Georgia. Israeli companies, headed by reserve Israeli generals, brought in excess of a thousand Israeli mercenaries into Georgia and two senior, recently retired Israeli generals provided senior command "consulting" to the Georgian General Staff. All of this turned very ugly, when on 8/8/08 the Georgian forces attacked lightly armed Russian peace keepers along with many innocent Russian civilians using volley fire from massed tubeless artillery. Over 1,400 men, women, and children were killed in their own homes without warning, in the opening minutes (with over 2,000 killed in the five day war). In response to this, Russia sent in her troops and most Georgian troops retreated (some "retreated" so fast that they threw away their uniforms, guns, and equipment as they ran home).
http://www.opednews.com/articles/WAR-WARNING-by-Lord-Stirling-080829-863.html

[SalmonChantedEvening]

1. Big K&R

:kick:

Thank you anna :hug:

[annabanana]

2. bright shiny unwed motherhood is SO MUCH more important

This really has me jumpy.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iYDsX77oFsbpAyBs0DlwEhZ87sBA
Cheney heads to ex-Soviet nations in show of support
8 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) — US Vice President Dick Cheney departs Tuesday on a four-nation tour to support US allies Georgia and Ukraine amid a chill in relations with Russia over its military conflict with Georgia.

Talks on energy and how to offset Russian oil dominance are also high on the agenda for the visit, which comes on the heels of a decision Monday by EU leaders to freeze strategic partnership talks with Moscow until Russian troops withdraw from Georgia.

Cheney will be the highest ranking US official to visit Tbilisi since Russian tanks rolled into its smaller neighbor in early August and fought a five-day war over the Moscow-backed rebel region of South Ossetia.

The White House led global condemnation of Russia's subsequent decision to recognize the breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent states, calling it "irresponsible," but laid out no concrete retaliatory plans.

[gblady]

16. I was thinking that, too

I wonder what is being covered up by this soap opera.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

20. This is like sending Nosferatu to make a deal on Blood Supply management.

And I ain't bein' funny here.

There's no way to not be worried, the track record already has you there.

[Joanne98]

3. And Cheney is doing something evil at a nuclear weapons factory

Nuclear Weapons Safety Concerns Raised At Pantex


By George Lobsenz The Energy Department's National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) is deviating from its normal safety review process for nuclear weapons assembly operations to accommodate an unusually accelerated production schedule for a modified new...


http://www.defensedaily.com/publications/dd/3812.html

I can't read the rest of the story cause I don't have an account. But it doesn't look good. We can't take our attention off Cheney.

[MadrasT]

13. Amazing find. n/t

[truedelphi]

17. That is amazing - amazing scary!! n/t

[leftchick]

27. here is a little more

POGO questions new security policy at DOE nuke sites

http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/munger/2008/08/pogo_questions_new_security_re.html

The Project On Government Oversight said the Dept. of Energy is implementing a new policy on security requirements at its nuclear weapons facilities and that the plan -- known as Graded Security Protection -- will actually decrease the security requirements at some sites.

The new security policy, according to POGO, is replacing what was known as the Design Basis Threat, which set the standards for protection against terrorism. In a prepared statement, POGO exec director Danielle Brian said, "One thing we don't understand is why different sites need different requirements if they are guarding the same thing: highly enriched uranium or plutonium."

POGO senior investigator Peter Stockton said under the new policy, the Pantex Plant (where nuclear warheads are assembled) and the Office of Secure Transport, which moves special nuclear material and warhead components, would still be assigned the highest level of security. Stockton said he'd heard that other facilities would have requirements less than that.

Including Y-12? "That's for sure," he said.

He said POGO reps are scheduled to meet next week with Glenn Podonsky of DOE.

Here's the link to POGO's blog.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

4. I have to say they got me on this one. I thought it would be Iran in October

Is there absolutely no way to stop them?

[amyrose2712]

5. K&R!!!! nt

[pampango]

6. Who in NATO is even considering a military attack on South Ossetia or Abkhazia?

From the stories I have read the EU and NATO "hawks" want sanctions or to cancel joint exercises with Russia, but that there is no support even for this. Further "studies" have been ordered to come up with ways to lessen Europe's energy dependence on Russia.

I suppose NATO could publically declare that a Russian attack on Ukraine, Poland or the Baltic states would be an act of war, but since no one expects any of those to happen, NATO doesn't fill the air with bellicose statements.

[annabanana]

7. Um. . .We are in NATO. Russia's envoy to NATO has said that

military support for any attempt by Georgia to reabsorb those two provinces would be considered an "act of war".

The Georgian "Army" is nearly entirely a creature of our own making.

That's ok... everything is just fine.

[pampango]

8. I understand what the Russian envoy said about an "act of war".

Who in NATO is talking about invading South Ossetia or Abkhazia? As far as I can tell, they can't agree to do anything except make statements regarding Russia.

[malaise]

10. 'New Europe'

Bushco's puppets will get involved. It will be another great clusterfuck.

[pampango]

12. I don't think they will. But we shall see. n/t

[bdamomma]

9. kick

wherever Cheney goes trouble follows, let us focus on this dirt ball, do not let other distractions not focus on this despicable man.

[bdamomma]

11. kick

[annabanana]

14. Thanks. I happen to think this is one place we can't afford to blink

or take our eye off the roaming Dick.

[bdamomma]

15. we have to keep focused on Cheney and not other distractions.

[Iggo]

18. I've been warning people...

...to keep their eyes off of Palin, and keep their eyes on Iran and Georgia.

Kicked & Rec'd.

[tomp]

19. here's my take:

palin shores up the right wing and increases funding and gotv (the attacks on the pretty little fundie lady angers them). She can withdraw and they find another asshole or not. either way the right is mobilized.

palin/vp choice distracts from "the man behind the curtain".

we attack palin/vp choice and ignore the rest of what's going on.

OR, we attack bush/cheney and palin/vp choice goes under the radar.

THEN, they steal it.

OR, then they let obama/biden deal with the mess they've created and come back in four years after retrenching.

i am inclined NOT to think that pailn is an accident.

[TrogL]

21. and I wanted to live in interesting times

Nobody told me it was a curse.

Dubya wants to nuke something. I'd been thinking Iran. Now I'm thinking somewhere in the Caucasus.

[Kablooie]

22. Could this be the long planned move towards Martial law that we've been worried about?

Puttin' on my tinfoil helmet here.

[windoe]

25. my thoughts exactly

Obama does not fit into the psycho agenda, stolen election, civil unrest, then martial law.

[Ghost Dog]

23. We do appear to be at the highest degree of tension in Europe

at the moment.

Russia will not blink first, I think. :eyes:

But it may yet turn out to be a feint before the attack on Iran, which will be after all only another phase in the attack on the heart of Eurasia.

[snot]

24. K&R'd nt

[progressivebydesign]

26. I was thinking that Bush & Co whipped up this crisis for political reasons...

..and when they got punk'd by the Palin decision, suddenly the whole 'threat of world war' thing was a total fuck-up with the idea of Palin as potential CiC. When they thought they were going to have a couple of serious dudes on the ticket, it was going to be war war war, fear fear fear, and terror terror terror. THIS is why Giuliani was scrapped from the list, and why suddenly the convention is a regular revival meeting featuring the joys of motherhood...

Now cheney is trying to unfuck things in the region, after realizing that America in yet another war would doom the GOP in November with Caribou Barbie one heartbeat away from CiC.

[dmr]

28. This is alarming. What is this really all about?

To our demise un-impeached Cheney works best while our attention is diverted on the election, its noise, and hurricanes.

I don't trust Cheney. Could Georgia be a deadly ruse in a game Cheney is playing? Along with Israel? A game that he - we - could lose control? I'm thinking about all that we've sent into Georgia. How safe is our military technology and hardware that we sold to Georgia? What else have we sold? What is this really all about?

You know the Russians, and their well-educated, and now very wealthy Red Mafia have their hands in every conceivable money-making opportunity in this country and across the globe (human trafficking, sex fraud, arms dealing, narcotics, Medicaid/Medicare fraud, banking & securities fraud to God knows what). Trouble with Russia would have to have a disastrous effect in destroying our economy even further.

I'm just an old lady sitting in front of my computer and may not know what I'm talking about, but I do know that Cheney is dirty and arrogant. The Russians in power today are dirty and smart. He may have gotten us into a fix where we will 'pay' dearly for a very, very long time; we may never know how or why.

What is this really about? Does Iran factor into this?

Instead of impeaching Cheney, our Congress is allowing the man the power to continue to drag us further into an abyss of no return.

[Delphinus]

29. Bringing to the top. n/t