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Tue Sep-02-08 08:33 AM
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Is there any chance that the republicans could actually win this? |
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That is my worst nightmare, and would put our country back at least 75 years
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:35 AM
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1. Stealing it works for them. Probably the only way they *win* this time. |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 08:35 AM by Blue State Native
Just like the last two times.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:36 AM
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2. We must brace ourselves for this possibility |
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:38 AM
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7. It would mean that all the rights that people fought so hard for the past 70 years |
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:43 AM
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12. that's already happened... nt |
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:47 AM
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15. 50% have been rolled back, but it is still recoverable. That won't be the case |
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if they win, with the Supreme Court at stake
I hope people realize the our very republic is in peril
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:36 AM
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3. there is always that chance...we have to not stop working |
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:37 AM
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4. Yes, by continuing to attack Obama. |
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They will attack Obama, much worse than we've seen so far. This election is a war between rovian politics and a new way of campaigning. It's up to the millions of new, younger voters to turn out in November and finally send Rove out to pasture. This election is far from over.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:38 AM
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October surprise? Selective reporting by the media? Of course they can win.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:38 AM
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 08:38 AM by renegade000
what with palin's background, could be about 150 years: :P
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:39 AM
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8. Sure. The corporations have a lock on most of the media that |
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Joe Sixpack watches. It's all about perception and they're spinning like a top already.
Disenfranchisement and electronic voting machines haven't been fixed either. We need a landslide to overcome that.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:39 AM
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9. Well, yes. Everybody who's in contention can, in principle, win. Ditto for Bob Barr. -nt |
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:40 AM
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10. As someone posted earlier, this is a national IQ test. |
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If the nation fails it, I have to look for somewhere else for my sons to live out their lives. I can't leave this earth with the notion that the country my oldest son (who is autistic) may lose his 14th amendment protections that so many of us fought hard for.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:49 AM
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18. I am having the same thoughts as you expressed. I will fight harder this election |
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for Obama/Biden then I have fought for any candidate before
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:39 AM
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The 14th is pretty broad. Are you speaking of citizenship, slavery, abortion or what about the 14th do you think is in danger?
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:42 AM
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11. As things stand now, no the Republicans cannot win. |
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Obama seems to run a pretty even-keeled campaign and if Biden can keep his foot out of his mouth I don't see any way that this election isn't a blow-out for the Democrats.
McCain is an embarrassment and Palin is a joke. The "base" may love Palin, but the Republican "base" can't win an election in Kansas, let alone the whole country. The only chance the Republicans had of pulling this ugly debacle out of the fire was for McCain to choose a running mate that would draw massive numbers of independents. The Palin choice was jaw-droppingly stupid. It is over unless the Obama campaign really stumbles badly; and I don't see that happening...
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:45 AM
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13. That is what I sense, but I wonder if many people have been so dumbed down |
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over the decades that the demographics are different
I really hope people realize what the stakes are
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:56 AM
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29. If the voting is on the up & up.... |
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I would be very optimistic that most people have a high IQ. I'm just worried about the system of voting. Mrs. Moose
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:45 AM
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If they can turn Spunky Sarah into a victim of the vicious liberal blogs, have a staged terrorist attempt to remind everyone once again that McCain was a POW, take voter suppression to new, spectacular heights, get the cooperation of slanted media that just wants a horse race instead of telling the truth -- and of course adding racism == Mission Accomplished.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:47 AM
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They may not know how to govern, but the DO know how to win.
We don't.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:49 AM
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17. There's no doubt that they'll attempt to steal it. |
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The question is whether the Dems fight to stop them or not (last 8 years = not).
The republicans only win with collaborator Democrats on board.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:50 AM
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19. George Bush is president - Al Gore and John Kerry were not - President McCain/Palin |
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:52 AM
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Even after four years of the most inept presidency in history, voters still made it close enough for the rethugs to steal it.
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:59 AM
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21. well...not actually "win"- but still maintain their hold on the presidency- of course. |
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i've pretty much resigned myself to it. the cheney mis-administration can't take a chance that the next administration's justice department might actually hold them even slightly criminally accountable in some way.
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:08 AM
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22. I would say there's about a 60% chance of a Republican victory |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 09:08 AM by Donald Ian Rankin
Despite the desperate bluster from DU, McCain's pick of Palin was a skillful tactical move - witness the amount of energy that's being focussed on the non-issue of her children; the Democratic convention didn't generate much bounce and the Republican one is still to come. Plus, McCain is the right-wing candidate in a very right-wing country. Right now, if I had to place money I'd bet it on the bad guys, I'm afraid.
That said, there's still two months to turn things round.
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:22 AM
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23. I think that it is our election |
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Ours to win, relatively easily. Our only danger is complacency and lackluster fighting. We need to stay on top of this election, get our message out, and get out the idea that we need our entire electorate base to get their votes out.
If we are able to be consistent and passionate, we should win this election. The Republicans are a danger to us only if we hand it to them by imploding.
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:25 AM
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24. This is a nation that elected Junior twice. |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 09:38 AM by riverdeep
There's no limit to our collective stupidity.
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:25 AM
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25. I absolutely believe they can retain |
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control of the Presidency. I do not like to use the word "win" because that implies an assumption of a fair fight/contest. Repubs/Neocons have the Media, they have the machines (Diebold or what have you), they have the Supreme Court (who installed Bush the first time), they hold a lot of aces and have bigtime corporate money. Dems all too frequently take the moral "high road" and get nothing but a knife in the gut for it. I am very bothered by the fact that the Media is constantly trumpeting that the race is "close". I do not believe in their polls and it is to the Repubs/Neocons' advantage if (in fact) the race is close, and perceived as such by the citizenry. When it's close (like Ohio in 2004) they can steal/manipulate/disenfranchise. Obama needs to have a HUGE turnout.
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:33 AM
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26. It's like I said in a recent journal entry . . . |
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Until Americans kick their addiction to Republicans, we'll remain a victim of our own foot-shooting.
America collectively talks a good game, but doesn't much deliver on the "doing something ABOUT them" part. Every election cycle it's like this. When it comes time to make a change, Americans, as if almost magically, seem to forget all about this country's problems, it's bad economic situation, soldiers dying every day, scandal after scandal after scandal and even the fact that the Republican candidate just made the WORST possible VP selection in Republican history.
I think it's that we're a bunch of isolated, comfort addled and fearful weaklings. Not you and I, specifically, but Americans in general. They don't want to bother their beautiful little padded boxes with the world's issues. They don't want to hear about 8 straight months of job losses. They don't want to hear about this war. All they want is to have someone tell them that everything is going to be all right, and that someone better be a Republican white male.
To be honest, I think if a theft WERE to happen, you'd actually see more than a few people become genuinely pissed about it. There'd be civil unrest and turmoil. The inauguration would be a mess.
I mean, "Sarah Palin, Leader of the United States" doesn't scare ANYone?
Then again, are we talking about rational people here?
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:36 AM
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but they will be declared the winner.
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:39 AM
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28. HELL YES. Just yesterday I heard a PhD scientist that I otherwise admire parrot the... |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 09:40 AM by demodonkey
... "Palin has more experience than Obama" meme. And last night an RN who was a Hillary supporter told me she will NEVER vote for Obama, ANYone but him. Why? She is mad about Hillary and believes the stuff about Obama connections to Ayers and that "racist church."
Throw in ES&S and Diebold and I am really worried.
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:29 AM
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If the best attacks against mccain's VP pick are her young daughters and her penchant for hunting then there may be something to be concerned about.
Methinks a good debate on the issues is what is needed at this time and the petty nitpicking best saved for the narrow minded.
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