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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:50 AM
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TYT: What If Bristol Palin Were Black?

By Cenk Uygur

Christian-right leaders and conservative stalwarts have praised the decision of Bristol Palin, the daughter of Governor Sarah Palin, to carry her child to term. She is 17 and . Now imagine she wasn't the daughter of a prominent Republican politician but an average person. Now imagine she was black.

What do you think conservatives would have to say about her? "Typical, urban youth with no sense of responsibility raised with loose morals who plans to depend on the state to take care of her child." You know it. It's not within dispute. That's exactly what they would say.

Barack Obama has told everyone to lay off this because it is a personal, family matter. Yes, but it also has public policy ramifications. Governor Palin is for abstinence only education. Well, that obviously didn't work.

Has she learned her lesson? Will she now amend her policy position on this matter given her personal record of failure in implementing this ridiculous stance?

Notice I am not blaming Bristol. Quite the opposite. People like me are the ones that defend the Bristols of the world. It is conservatives like James Dobson, Rush Limbaugh and yes, Governor Palin who usually attack people who find themselves in Bristol's situation. They demand a dogmatic adherence to moral strictures and chastise and belittle women who have children out of wedlock. Especially if they are women of color.

Which brings us back to Obama. Do you think the Republicans would lay off of Obama if his 17 year-old daughter had gotten pregnant out of wedlock? You know the answer to that question. Everyone does.

"This is what the permissive liberal attitude gets you. If you allow your children to think everything is acceptable, they have no boundaries. They wind up getting themselves in trouble like this. It's a predictable result of the liberal lifestyle..."

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PS---CNN's Roland Martin Went Off On Sarah Palin At The RNC!

For more informative and entertaining LIVE coverage from the RNC, go to www.theyoungturks.com. Because you know you won't see this stuff on cable news or PBS!



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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:52 AM
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1. As long as she was a Republican she'd get a pass
Being a Democrat is the issue when morals are applied.

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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:56 AM
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2. exactly.
We Democrats are morally bankrupt, and the GOP/Evangelicals apparently have cornered the market on values and morals.

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:55 PM
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8. Yep n/t
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:00 AM
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3. Black or white the MSM would be on it like flies
on poop. What if it was Chelsea Clinton?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:55 PM
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11. The Clinton jokes and remarks would never end n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:17 PM
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12. Chelsea Clinton
Was the first that came to mind when this story first broke. The Republicans would make it into one hell of an issue then.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:39 PM
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20. Since when did the media after go after the Clintons??
;)
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:27 AM
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4. K & R!
Cenk is right, there is a double standard!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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5. K&R
:kick:
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:02 PM
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6. right on as usual, Cenk
and thanks for posting, Tom
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:15 PM
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7. Here's your answer
John Baer: So, there's no rhetoric in Minnesota? Cue the eye roll

up the name of this town.
I believe it's Potawatomi Indian for "two states from the Twin Cities."

It's where Pennsylvania delegates to the Republican National Convention - which is actually in St. Paul, which is on the other side of Minneapolis from here - are housed.

Let's just say the bus trips are loooooong.

(snip)

I assume Republican planning and scheduling is handled by Elmer Fudd.

But the early buzz is about McCain's pick of almost-former-Miss-Alaska Sarah Palin, the gun-toting governor of a state with less than half the population of Philadelphia.

And the news that this soon-to-be VP nominee of the family-values/abstinence-education party has an unmarried, pregnant teenage daughter.

But, seriously, out of wedlock baby-making aside, I asked delegates how Palin squares with McCain's "country first" mantra, his pledge to pick the person best qualified to be president and whether it's just possible the pick is a pander to women.

(snip)

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080902_John_Baer__So__there_s_no_rhetoric_in_Minnesota__Cue_the_eye_roll.html

Now wait a sec, here's another one:

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20080902_Ronnie_Polaneczky__Bristol_Palin__Proof_that_abstinence-only_education_doesn_t_work.html

Ronnie Polaneczky: Bristol Palin: Proof that abstinence-only education doesn't work

BRISTOL PALIN AIN'T the luckiest girl in the country right now.
The daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Bristol is 17, unwed and pregnant - and the whole world knows it, thanks to her mom's new celebrity as John McCain's vice presidential running mate.

Unlike many other knocked-up teens, Bristol and the baby's father, a guy named Levi, are at least lucky enough to have adults who'll shoulder the pregnancy with them.

"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," Sarah Palin said in a statement yesterday.

Palin, a strong advocate of abstinence-only sex education, didn't address the fact that the just-say-no method of birth control obviously failed for Bristol - the way, studies show, it fails so many teens.

(snip)

Here's the kicker:
Another reader noted how Bristol's middle-class status had somehow elevated her above the scorn usually heaped upon poor unwed teens:

"African-American teenage pregnancies in urban areas = the destruction of 'family values' by liberal principles. White, Republican teens get pregnant = a glorious day for traditional values."


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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:21 PM
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9. Can you cite a source for your last sentence?
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:49 AM
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15. The link is at the top of the article
That sentence was towards the end. Emphasis is mine. sorry.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 08:42 PM
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10. Evening Kick
:kick:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:20 PM
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13. If she was BLACK, oh that's DIFFERENT
Then her irresponsible parents should have been supervising her. And think what it does to SOCIETY!

But she's not Black, SO....GOD BLESSED HER! WITH A CHILD! IT'S A MIR-A-CLE!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:23 PM
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14. then she would be a welfare queen
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:55 AM
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16. If she were black
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 09:19 AM by Lurking_Argyle
of course the neocons would say that "those people" are like that and just want to keep making babies to get on welfare.

Another killer question would be: What if Bristol's soon-to-be husband was black? Neocons aren't generally fans of diversity.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:58 AM
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17. levi johnston wouldn't go back...?
:shrug:
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:09 AM
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18. Nice. What if the baby born has skin pigmentation inconsisten with
the Levi character? hehehe.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:02 PM
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19. Or brown???
You know, those illegal alien women just can't keep their legs together, they just keep havin' those anchor babies.:sarcasm:
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