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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:05 PM
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seems to me the Palin nomination is working very well for the repukes
I had occasion to chat with several repuke acquaintances the last few nights. All of them had previously expressed plans either to hold their noses and vote for Obama or to not vote out of disgust with bush and mccain. Now, though, they were all fired up and enthusiastic about the good-old girl on the ticket.

Does anyone else have this sense?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:07 PM
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1. Too little, too late, in my opinion.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 02:08 PM by Bicoastal
They can use a VP candidate as a symbol for only so long--sooner or later she has to prove she's competent.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:08 PM
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2. The majority of the sheep like Republicans would happily walk in lockstep
.......off the edge of a cliff if told to do so.

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:08 PM
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3. No...
RW radio is on the defensive about Palin, instead of on the offensive about Obama.

Lovin' it! All the real fundies I know (the ones who actually practice what they preach) are disturbed over her.
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:08 PM
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4. Yeah. My repuke acquaintances are all
happy horseshit about the choice. And they're tax 'pukes, not fundies.

I worry that it's only our echo chamber that's outraged.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:29 PM
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14. Yet more strange acquaintances
My GOP friends/family despise the woman.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:10 PM
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5. That makes no sense. If they considered voting for Obama, why
would putting an inexperienced scandal-ridden fundie wackjob on the ticket pull them back to the GOP? My sense is that McLoon is losing more GOPer and moderate/Indie votes than he'll gain from the hard core RWers.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:33 PM
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16. The religious shit alone is losing them the moderate and indie vote
A libertarian relative of mine was leaning toward voting for McCain because he thought he was, at base, a moderate Republican who eschewed right-wing religious nuts.

Now he's going to vote for Obama.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:35 PM
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21. That's just it--McLoon seemed like a different kind of Republican
because the religious right didn't have him by the nutsack--and now they do. He devalued his own unique currency.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:10 PM
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6. In the sense that the conversation has been dumbed down...
...from serious issues about the economy and the U.S.'s relations with the rest of the world back to another "culture war" mass bowel movement, yes, it's working for them.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:22 PM
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12. I was clearly getting the same old ignorant back-slapping BS attitude
they had about how they'd rather have a beer with bush than with kerry

they were actually excited about it.

None of them are fundies. they're more the faux-libertarian, anti-tax, gun-nut repukes
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:34 PM
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19. Your "friends" are extreme outliars in my experience :) n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:11 PM
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7. I'm finding the opposite
among Repug women acquaintances.

They're slowly becoming outraged that a bible Barbie with little experience was chosen over competent women like Hutchinson who have strong resumes.

I don't know any fundies, though, and that is why my response might be different.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:45 AM
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36. Yep..
my extremely republican mil was pissed about the Palin choice. She said she was happy for about 5 minutes but the more she learned, the less she liked.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:12 PM
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8. The women I've talked to, former Hillary supporters,
find her blatant sales pitch to snatch their votes from Obama to be hightly distasteful. Nor are they particularly impressed with her as a candidate. The men I've talked with, including McCain supporters, are skeptical of her qualifications to be president on day one. So I would say this "fired-up enthusiasm" is coming from people who were planning to vote for McCain anyway. Palin is far from a "game-changer".
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:33 PM
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18. Same here...
Only it's not just the women. But then; most of the men I know wear their brains above the belt.
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MoeHayNow Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:14 PM
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9. That attitude doesn't make any sense.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 02:14 PM by MoeHayNow
How is Palin a "good-old girl?"

Hillary is a good old girl.
Oprah is a good old girl
Susan Sarandon is a good old girl.
None of them are on the repug ticket though.

So, them saying that they were changing their vote from Obama to hold their nose and vote for McCaine is really just admitting what they were going to do all along.
I don't buy a word of what any of my Repug superiors say.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:31 PM
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15. Have you noticed we had a lot of concern trolls this morning, Moe :)
They all seem to be very concerned.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:39 PM
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22. It's touching, isn't it?
I know I feel all warmy 'n' fuzzy just knowing they care. :crazy:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:04 PM
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24. Truly :) n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:31 PM
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32. yeah, I've been a concern troll here at DU for seven years now
just concern, concern, concern from old leftofthedial.

ignoramus.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:16 PM
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10. Of course their base is fired up.
But this country is thankfully comprised of more than just religious whack jobs. And this election, the opposition is extremely primed, more so than the pubs.
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:17 PM
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11. My husband's brother and his wife
are conservative Roman Catholics, always vote Repub. They like Palin, but they knew about her before. We went to lunch in June and they were talking about "the Alaska governor" as s possible VP choice back then. I think Palin's been talked about in religious circles for a while.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:28 PM
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13. You have strange acquaintances
I know all manner of Republicans including some women. No one is voting for McCain.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:55 PM
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34. maybe *yours* are the strange ones
I'm just reporting what I observed the last few days.

To my knowledge none of the people I overheard are religious wingnuts. They're all the white male, anti-tax, pro-gun, dittohead types.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:24 AM
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35. No, sounds like mine are more the rule than the exception ;) n/t
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:33 PM
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17. Just the opposite, here in NJ
Not a scientific survey, but those I spoke to are more repulsed now than ever.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:35 PM
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33. Michigan repukes don't like her either. They are of the "WTF"?
...opinion on this.

They REALLY were hoping for Mittens!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:35 PM
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20. No, in fact quite the opposite
Palin's nomination has turned off a lot of the moderate Republicans that I know, who will now be voting for Obama. They're scared of having somebody so inexperienced and radically right wing as the VP of a man who is old and could die at any point.

Also the Palin nomination is driving many Greens and other liberal third party folks I know into the Obama camp for the very same reason.

Meanwhile, Palin's credentials and her past are causing havoc, turning more people towards Obama, and McCain's flawed judgement in picking this candidate is being seriuosly questioned, both within and outside of the Republican party.

Many independents that I know are also fleeing the McCain column and heading for Obama.

Palin right now is the gift that keeps on giving and giving, right to the Obama campaign.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 02:53 PM
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23. IMO the decision to pick Palin was the best decision McCain ever made
and yes it most definitely fired up the Republican base which by all accounts was on the verge of sitting this election out..
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:29 PM
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27. ROFLMAO!! Yeah, his decision to pick a right-wing, nutjob lying thief was great
For the Democrats.

Ah, the poor Republicans, how they are weeping copiously. lol :party: :party: :party: :party:
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:06 PM
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25. Nope - its the opposite in my experience
I know several republicans that are now voting for Obama that were not planning on voting at all until Palin entered the picture.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:18 PM
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26. Of course, the RWing & Fundies are fired up now.
They have a VP that is as nutty as they are.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:31 PM
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28. Not my experience at all. Mostly I've encountered a dumbfounded sort of
"what the hell is wrong with them?" response.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:33 PM
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29. er, no. they need moderates and independents and dems
it's the opposite of working.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:33 PM
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30. It makes sense to fans of "General Hospital" and "The Young and the Restless".
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:34 PM
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31. McSame has been making money hand over fist with taliPalin
too bad this is going to lose him the election.
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