It's over folks

[nadinbrzezinski]

that was a predictive speech

She toouched on EVERY and EACH of the expected talking points... and didn't even deliver them well

Oh and one talking point is that Obama has done nothing ok

[DemoRabbit]

1. MSM will say she did well (nt)

[ColbertWatcher]

2. They'll say the audience liked it! n/t

[notadmblnd]

5. all 200 hundred people?

[Fluffdaddy]

3. FOXNEWS will fall all over themselves

[emilyg]

36. CNN beat them to it.

[LeftinOH]

4. That was a BEAUTIFUL speech!............Who wrote it?

:sarcasm:

[TahitiNut]

52. Peggy Noonan had a hand in it, I think.

It had her reptilian touch in places.

[XemaSab]

68. Matt Scully wrote part of it

:shrug:

[C_U_L8R]

6. That was a very sarcastic and meanspirited speech

That may work in a room full of overweight white republicans
but it sounds pretty awful out here in the real world

[lpbk2713]

7. That's the way rethuglicans do it.

Typical for them.

[MrMickeysMom]

14. On the other hand...

It was way over the median understanding of the audience

[shugah]

24. hey! don't forget the trophy wives!

they were well represented too.

[Plausible]

8. any mention of Iraq Was as task from God?

raq War a 'Task From God,' Palin Said
By GENE JOHNSON
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Sept. 3) - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."
A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.
Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.
"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.
"I can do my job there in developing our natural resources and doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded," she added. "But really all of that stuff doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's heart isn't right with God."
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[Moochy]

Predictive vs. Predictable

Hey moran, it's not "predictive" it's "predictable"

That you were dropped on your head is "predictive" of you being a Republican.

[Dr.Phool]

49. Watch out! He's gonna start casting asparagus any second!

[NYCGirl]

10. OK, smart guy. Tell us what your Palin did that was so great. NT

[snappyturtle]

11. Oh, I listened to a shallow scarcastic speech. Where were her

solutions to the problems in the USA? Pathetic.

[lib2DaBone]

45. No Solutions. Just inflame and insult...

mean, nasty, infammatory, lying, cheating. (add you own adjective here_________) There was not one truth or one real issue in that speech.. only meant to inflame hatred and divide America further that it already is. Some truly sick psychopathic people in that arena. Allthough, there were a few there that knew what was going on was wrong.. very wrong. A few times the camera showed the faces of a lady and a man... and they were very scarred. There was no smile on their face.. their eyes were serious and they looked like they wanted to run. I was a paramedic for a number of years.. and I recognize that look from serious MVA's (Motor Vehicle Accidents). They may have been republicans at their own convention.. but they knew was was going down was very sick.

[snappyturtle]

80. I completely agree with you. I know we need to avoid being

sexist however, I heard a cat fight mentality in her delivery. Didn't see any saucers of milk though. I believe if women are honest they should recognize sp is not playing to the women in the US but to the men. (I am a 62 year old female.) IMHO

[orleans]

12. !!!

[Bake]

13. What the hell is going on today?

Is this some freeper "organized" lame-ass attempt at a "raid?" Can you say "H-U-S-S-I-A-N"? I knew that you could.

Mods, please just tombstone this assclown right fucking now ...

Bake

[rustee]

23. why tombstone me?

Ok, so I made a stupid-ass typo. Sorry. I'm not here to start trouble. I just thought the speech was rather good. And, unlike, Obama, who hints at change, but gives no specifics, and who wants nothing more than to raise taxes and increase govt., her speech gave retorts to some rather obvious flaws that Obama has. Her speech was well received by those in the audience, and will be well received by 'open-thinking' Americans, unlike some of you who just want to call anyone with a differing view, sarcastic names. But, hey, whatever helps. Go ahead. And, if I am banned,,,,oh well. But, I'm really not a threat, so just relax.

[Bake]

26. Yeah, right. Whatever.

I wonder how long **I'd** last at "your" (piss-poorly designed) discussion site? Not as long as we've already given you, I'm sure. You've managed six or seven posts.

And I shouldn't have called you an "assclown." I should've said "MORAN."

:rofl:

Bake

[ebdarcy]

28. Her speech was nasty. But you're right, you're not a threat, and neither are your candidates.

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[Damian the LHP]

39. Yep.

You're a Freep, all right. Same lame attacks against Obama, same lies, same "UR JUST FRAYD UH MEEEEE" trolling shit.

Same tombstone where you once trolled.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Ok I'll play

do tell me... what period of US History saw the largest growth of government in US history?

If you care to elaborate on the deficit, please feel free, them will be brownie points.

[rustee]

44. sure...

But, instead of me just spewing out talking-points, take a close look at Obama's ideas, and you'll discover that, when implemented, they will cause such a huge deficit, it'll be pathetic. Cutting taxes, cutting govt., cutting spending. Why is that so bad?

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Free clue, actions speak louder than words

and you failed your civics exam

The largest growth in the Federal Government in the history of this country IS THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION

The largest growth in the Deficit is again this administration

Now here is what you are misrepresenting

Yes, Obama will raise taxes ON THE TOP 5%. Not quite to the levels that Ike had them at (90%), but HIGHER, giving a TAX break to everybody else

Aka the MIDDLE CLASS (as well as the poor)

So please be specific in the TALKING POINTS

Now here is more... who WRECKED the readiness of the US Military? Will save it for you... the CURRENT administration. Even the Cato Institute, which is LIBERTARIAN by the way. has assessed readiness as LOWER than before Pearl Harbor... care to tell me exactly how these folks are good? Their actions speak quite loudly as to how much of a disaster they are for the country.

Now that you get, the headache, is called cognitive dissonance

Oh and I suggest you start doing some actual readying and INDEPENDENT thinking.

In case you are wondering I AM an independent voter and have DONE MY HOMEWORK. Four more years of the same... we can't afford... and I have not even touched on oh CIVIL RIGHTS

[rustee]

50. gawd, I love it...

When Obama et al state that they will only raise taxes on the rich. How naive?
When you raise taxes on corp., it flows down to us all. As was said last night. The dems state that they will only raise taxes on half of the bucket (of water). Implying that the other half will remain stable. Absolutely ridiculous. But, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I gotta get up for work tonight. Hey, thanks, at least, for posting a question, and not the typical bs.

[Damian the LHP]

51. BLAR BNLAR TERICKLE DURN

So, when do all those Bush tac xuts trickle down for the rest of us? When will Shrubbery's sweetheart deals for the oil companies result in lower gas prices?

There's a reason they also called it "voodoo economics", Freepy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. Read your history, and a little on the theory behind a PROGRESSIVE

taxation system.

IN summary, this means that those who earn the most pay the most while those who earn the least pay the least... which means that both pay about the SAME percentage of income... as in real percentage... not the flat tax which is not progressive and the dream of way too many libertarians... who don't get it

By the way this progressive system with 90% taxation for the top 10%, not even 5%, was in place during the Eisenhower administration... the economy worked fine. Should I remind you Ike was a republican president?

That tax rate on the top 10%^ was lowered to 70% by Kennedy, and the largest period of economic expansion in US history was 1960-1968

Here is another free clue... you do know that over the last 100 years the US economy has done BEST under DEMOCRATS?

Oh and the last four major depressions\ recessions have come under republican rule and one form or another of trickle down

let me list them for you in order

Grant Administration, 1870

McKinley Administration 1900

Hoover Administration 1929

And it is debated. whether it fit the definition for a slight depression, but it was a recession.. Reagan administration, 1986

Did I mention many economists see the shadows of a major economic meltdown due to the trickle down currently in place?

Gee what all of these have in common?

All of them are republicans

When you stack the talking points versus the historical record, they don't do too well, do they?

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[TahitiNut]

57. Corporations are taxed on PROFITS, oh clueless one.

"Profits" are what they get AFTER deducting expenses .... like, oh, say. EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION. Right now, corporations can lay off, fire, or off-shore the jobs and increase the profits or raise the CEO's salary. Once upon a time, corporations saw the "wisdom" of hiring American workers and expanding their business in lieu of losing that money to taxes ... so, if the TAX is now the LOWEST IT HAS EVER BEEN IN OVER 75 years, guess what? They fire people.

Just about the STUPIDEST people on earth seem to be GOPhers ... no wonder they bankrupt their businesses.

Enron economics. Idiocy.

Oh... by the way ... if you even TRIED to dip your snout in the CEO's bucket of water, you'd find your head chopped off at the pencil neck. Only a clueless imbecile thinks otherwise.

[rustee]

60. get a clue

when you tax a corp., they raise prices to cover their costs, this trickles all the way down to you and me. Why you, and others, can't see this,,,or accept this, is beyond me. You think that a corp. is taxed, and then there is no impact on us??

OK

[TahitiNut]

61. You don't seem to have the first clue about corporate economics. Not one.

I spent 30 years in the bowels of Fortune 100 companies, much of it as an internal auditor. Read up on GAAP some time, clueless one.

You seem to be happy to think you'll feed the birds by giving more oats to the horse. Keep chowing down on that horse shit, bird brain.

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. As a proud parent of three parrots (aka bird brain one, two and three) I protest that

usage your honor, trust me... they are very bright.

:-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. It is called the historical record

mostly...

Amazing that you have not even touched the post on THAT I posted above

Here is a free clue for you

Corporations are taxed right now at about 12%... the lowest rate in US History

We have removed all kinds of tarriffs at borders

And there is more... companies are actually getting TAX INCENTIVES to move their operations overseas

I have a simple question... who will buy Wallmart's crap when we can't afford it anymore?

Oh and here is a piece of trivia for you... the cost to produce that button down shirt in the US, instead of China is about 10 cents more, which knowing how the distribution system works, adds overall a dollar to that shirt

Now if it was produced in the US... you'd have well paid workers

So why do you think Republicans encourage this?

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. Damn found a pizza

I hope that Rustee does some readying though

It is good for the mind

[Damian the LHP]

48. Sure.

Because deficit spending on an illegal occupation and tax cuts for the rich make huge surpluses, right?

Were you born this stupid, or did you have to work at it?

[riverdeep]

76. They're raised in the hot house of hate radio.

And they come out all succulent and tender. And ignant. Very ignant.

[Arugula Latte]

65. "increase govt." -- like invading Iraq and flushing trillions down the toilet?

That kind of increase, you mean?

Typical ignorant, shortsighted, rightwing claptrap from you.

Obama is giving the middle class tax cuts. Only the uber wealthy will have tax increases. You know, the people who got MASSIVE tax cuts from your pal Bushy?

[Castleman]

67. Hey dipshit?

You want specifics? Like my somewhat limited brother? Download Obama's Blueprint For Change. It's only 200 something pages of exactly how he's going to fix this country.
You DO, however, need to able to understand some big words, because he uses several of them that have three and sometimes even FOUR syllables.
I'm sorry the rest of you, was that out of line?
I'm just really tired of the "He just talks and doesn't give specifics!" crowd.

[riverdeep]

75. Obama's speech was praised by his opponents as well. It was that good. And that specific.

He laid out about 30 specifics for people who were paying attention. Of course, a speech can only go into so much detail, if it's not enough for you, you can always go to his website which lays it out in painstaking detail.

People like Pat Buchanan and Bill Bennett (some of his opponents) said it was one of the greatest acceptance speeches ever. So if you're going to claim that Caribou Barbie had anything even remotely equivalent, you're climbing a steep road. Also, hint, if you're middle class, your taxes will actually go down under Obama, just as they've gone up under Bush, the occasional $300 to $600 bribe, er, return, notwithstanding.

[dana_b]

15. no substance, just smears

the party of no ideas or original thought. she's a vile, sarcastic, evil person. I'd be scared if I were you too.

[Bake]

27. It must be the fear that's bringing them all out.

What's that smell? Oh ... desperation.

Bake

[datasuspect]

16. you came all the way over here just to say that?

well, aren't you PRECIOUS.

[Raksha]

17. Go away, freeper troll. n/t

[Stardust]

18. Get lost. Trolls are not welcome here.

[Errrica]

19. ALL ACTION?!

:rofl:

Action? The only "action" I saw was a vile speech that will in no way sway the Independent voters, just energize the arrogant, selfish, bigot, hardcore Repukes... like you.
What "action" has Mrs. Palin taken for you, exactly?

[rustee]

47. funny you should say that...

Well, at least Lieberman was given a chance to speak. Did the dems reach out to the other side? No, of course not. So, Yea, I'd say a lot of Independents will be voting R this election.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. You missed last week's proceedings? There were MANY Rs on the stage

from common folk... it is time my government does something for Barney Smith, instead of Smith Barney (A keeper, truly) And I can almost bet the ranch that nobody of common stock will be allowed on the stage this week either, by the way.

All the way to REPUBLICAN congresscritters.

And as an INDEPENDENT I will NOT be voting R this year... in fact I personally have yet to meet any Indie that will

[HughMoran]

20. Shes a typical hate-filled bigot Republican - as predictable as the sun coming up

You're a moron if you can't see this.

[MrMickeysMom]

21. Awesome comment rustee...

...just, just AWESOME.

[mitchum]

22. See you in November...now fuck off freeper trash

[Baltoman991]

25. Truth?

Did she tell the truth tonight? Was it true when she said Obama hasn't authored any bills?

Seriously, if you like speeches that are full of lies and bashing then I'll give her an A+. But when watching political speeches I'd like to hear a bit about policy, you know, what they're going to do about the economy, things like that. Based on my criteria for a good speech I'd have to give her an F.

And that my friend, is the truth that seems so hard for someone of your ilk to grasp.

[samuraiguppy]

33. An F?

I give her a double DD. I wonder if those are fake or real

[BlueCollar]

29. truth?

link please?

Oh...thin or thick crust?

[Chisox08]

30. What would you like on your tombstone?

Palin speech was lie followed by a lie wrapped in a lie. She spoke of no policies but she sure attacked Obama. That is typical of the Repukes they have no issues to stand on so they attack their opponents and go to the juvinile name calling and if that doesn't work they play the fear card. Tonight I saw all three of those cards played by that group of people.

[Contrary1]

32. I was predictive of this:

Palin is a proficient liar.

[shanti]

35. buh bye

enjoy your stay.

[Damian the LHP]

38. You disrupted poorly.

See you on the other side, Deep Six Freep.

[Dr.Phool]

42. Bye-Bye

[Sebastian Doyle]

43. Who opened the gate and let all the fucking sheep in here today?

BAAAAAAAAAAA I luv me some Sarah Palin. She's so purty!! BAAAAAAAAAAAA

[rustee]

55. sheep?

nevermind.

[TahitiNut]

53. It's to be expected that an illiterate imbecile would have the perspective you've expressed.

... even as ineptly and vacuously as you've presented it. (Wipe the drool off your keyboard and take your meds.)

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. Hey I rarely get to play long enough... so I had some fun

:-)

[rustee]

59. I'd love to respond,...

but your post makes no sense. Sorry, I tried to decipher it, but all I could come up with is, "I can't think of anything coherent to say, so I'll just spew out some ridiculous comments".


Is that close to the message you were trying to convey?

[TahitiNut]

62. Go back to school ... if they'll have you.

Take the short yellow bus if you must.

[TheWatcher]

71. The problem is that you don't have anything to respond with.

Other than typical talking points that you get from Fox and other Cable News Propaganda Media, you've been given PLENTY of chances to make your case in this thread by people who obviously are quite educated, experienced, and DO know what they are talking about, and when they have confronted you, you have NOTHING to respond with.

Go back to Post #68.

Let's see if you can intellectually challenge and debate someone.

You can't, and you and I both know it, but I have to admit, it will be amusing to see you make an absolute fool of yourself.

After all, it's your normal state of being.

And just so you know where I stand, I do not think Obama is the best answer, (Kucinich was my pick) but I am going to HAPPILY cast my vote for him in November, because the alternative spells the END OF THIS COUNTRY.

I am not willing to see my country die, because people like you are too stupid and ignorant to help it live again.

On Edit: Upon learning that you support Paul, I am even MORE amazed. McCain and his reject trailer Park Bimbo are the ANTI of EVERYTHING you guys supposedly believe in.

Ah, well, you can lead a Horse to Water, but you can't make him Think.

[TheWatcher]

72. What's the matter little one? Did he use too many big words that you don't understand?

Perhaps you should go back to the Yahoo Boards where the syllables are few, and the number of intellectuals is even fewer.

[riverdeep]

77. Here's something you can respond to:

Respond to posts 46, 54, and 63. If you can respond with reasoned debate, backed up by verifiable facts, you can eat at the big kids table. Otherwise, it's back to drooling with the little kids, who actually have an excuse for drooling.

[Alexander]

66. I smell pizza.

Get the door. It's for you.

[Damian the LHP]

69. IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT RUSTEE

My roommate did some checking, and it turns out I'm wrong. rustee isn't a Freeper - he's a Ron Cultist.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. Ah you mean a fan of flat tax and all that?

well, that splains his refusal to deal with my post on progressive taxation

[Sebastian Doyle]

74. I thought the Paultards were busy at their own unofficial convention

Somewhere in a Denny's off I-35, I think?

[unkachuck]

31. yep....

....it was the same old tired fascist rhetoric wrapped in the usual lies and inuendo....very predicatable....

....she was even putting the brain-dead repugs to sleep by the end of her speech....keep up the good work, palin, Alaska needs you....

....now get out there Dems and >> DEFINE << this repug asshole....I wanna turn the TV on tomorrow morning and see some Dems pissing all over her....

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. The campaign is about to respond

[NotTheFarbman]

78. I think we are in trouble

[Elwood P Dowd]

79. I think you are in trouble.

Goodby.

[cali]

81. delete